Rogue or Bard?

[iago]

So in D&D, I want to take a thief/diplomat. One who can be sneaky and stuff, but when he gets caught (or has to get by the guards) he can BS his way out of it.

I'm thinking Rogue would be best, but a Bard has awesome social skills.

Opinions?

[ZeroX]

Rogue just becuase you can stealth and if you do get caught you can kill them.

[Newby]

Bard is jack of all trades. You'll up your chance of getting caught but can weasel your way out better.

A good rogue would most likely go uncaught.

[deadly7]

Rogue, mos def.  Halfling rogue == even better, because halflings get boosts to their Dex and get a side modifier of +1 (or is it +2) to AC, so you're better equipped to not get pwned in a fight.  My group's rogue has 5hp.. max. 

[iago]

Elfs also got a + to dexterity.

And AC doesn't matter much if you don't get attacked, and that's my plan.

[kalaka]

I'd go with an evil-aligned Bard, because evil Bards are cool. Rogues are OK. It all depends, really; if you wanna do more stabbing and silent killing you should go with Rogue but if you want to bluff your way out of anything, I'd go with a Bard.

[iago]

I've thought long and hard, and here's my plan:

- Elven Rogue
- High dexterity (for rogue stuf)
- High charisma (for bullshitting)
- High intelligence (see the next point)
- Put my second level into Wizard, so I can cast "charm person" and use wands


Elves can multi-class to Wizard without special rules, and a level one wizard can cast "charm person" twice/day, which should be extremely helpful. Plus, I'll get a couple level 0 spells and the ability to use wands/magic items, which should be extremely helpful.

That's my plan so far! I'll keep you guys posted on how it goes.

[deadly7]

Elfs also got a + to dexterity.

And AC doesn't matter much if you don't get attacked, and that's my plan.

Elves get a -2 to dexterity.. that's why mine has a 9 and a -1 modifier.

Must have changed from 3.0 to 3.5..

[iago]

Elves having a low dexterity makes no sense. Elves are supposed to be graceful and agile. In 3.0 Elves have +2 dex, -2 con, but it makes no sense at all for elves to have a dex penalty.


And I confirmed, this is from 3.5:

[deadly7]

Oh.  Hmm, I guess I rolled a 7 for my lowest trait.  I thought I had rolled 11's as my lowest. :\

[iago]

Which do you prefer?



Keep in mine that I'm a bard with  high charisma and I use a bow (although the bow doesn't necessarily have to be included, since I use other stuff too).

I might even paint 2 of them, use one if I'm sneaking and the other if I'm not

[deadly7]

The first one or the third one.  I don't like the second one too much.

[Newby]

The first one or the third one.  I don't like the second one too much.

Second one would make for an awesome ranger.

First one or third one. Third if sneaking, first if not.

[iago]

Hmm, 2 was actually my favorite!

The main problem with 1 is that he's wearing chain-mail, which I'm definitely not going to do. But he does look pretty awesome.

I'm probably just going to paint them all (and 2 others that weren't in that picture) and use whichever one suits the situation best

[deadly7]

I would have thought you lack the patience to paint miniatures.