Author Topic: Metal appeals to the smart? (Read 9864 times)

Towelie · « **on:** March 21, 2007, 10:42:35 pm »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2007/03/21/nmetal21.xml

Newby · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2007, 11:32:22 pm »

That's why nobody listens to metal at my school! People like BigAznDaddy and such...

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Mr Cadwallader then held an online discussion involving 19 members of the academy, 17 of whom were heavy metal fans. They spoke of listening to bands including System of a Down, Slipknot, Tool, Dragon Force, Forward Russia and In Flames when they were in a bad mood and using it to work off frustrations and anger.

YUCK.

leet_muffin · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2007, 12:36:41 am »

lol, those bands only make me angrier. It takes something Cryptic Slaughter~esque, grind, or death metal to work anger off of me.

Towelie · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2007, 01:23:37 am »

Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2007, 11:32:22 pm

That's why nobody listens to metal at my school! People like BigAznDaddy and such...

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Mr Cadwallader then held an online discussion involving 19 members of the academy, 17 of whom were heavy metal fans. They spoke of listening to bands including System of a Down, Slipknot, Tool, Dragon Force, Forward Russia and In Flames when they were in a bad mood and using it to work off frustrations and anger.

YUCK.

That is exactly what I thought

Quote from: leet_muffin on March 22, 2007, 12:36:41 am

lol, those bands only make me angrier. It takes something Cryptic Slaughter~esque, grind, or death metal to work anger off of me.

I agree. The idea behind the article is what counts! Err... I don't use metal to ward off anger/deal with social problems though

Sidoh · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2007, 01:25:46 am »

The conclusions seems to be based on speculation...

iago · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2007, 10:21:38 am »

I mostly disagree with what this article says. I find a lot of smart people listen to metal, but I think their reasoning is way off, at least it doesn't fit with my experience.

Towelie · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2007, 03:48:36 pm »

Quote from: iago on March 22, 2007, 10:21:38 am

I mostly disagree with what this article says. I find a lot of smart people listen to metal, but I think their reasoning is way off, at least it doesn't fit with my experience.

Yeah, I thought exactly the same thing

dark_drake · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2007, 03:57:02 pm »

Interesting article, but does this belong in Media Center?

Armin · « **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2007, 04:23:05 pm »

Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2007, 11:32:22 pm

That's why nobody listens to metal at my school! People like BigAznDaddy and such...

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Mr Cadwallader then held an online discussion involving 19 members of the academy, 17 of whom were heavy metal fans. They spoke of listening to bands including System of a Down, Slipknot, Tool, Dragon Force, Forward Russia and In Flames when they were in a bad mood and using it to work off frustrations and anger.

YUCK.

Pfft, Tool is amazing. And this article is partially full of shit, because I don't know a single person that classifies Tool as heavy metal.

Towelie · « **Reply #9 on:** March 22, 2007, 04:33:40 pm »

Quote from: Metal Militia on March 22, 2007, 04:23:05 pm

Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2007, 11:32:22 pm
That's why nobody listens to metal at my school! People like BigAznDaddy and such...

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Mr Cadwallader then held an online discussion involving 19 members of the academy, 17 of whom were heavy metal fans. They spoke of listening to bands including System of a Down, Slipknot, Tool, Dragon Force, Forward Russia and In Flames when they were in a bad mood and using it to work off frustrations and anger.

YUCK.
Pfft, Tool is amazing. And this article is partially full of shit, because I don't know a single person that classifies Tool as heavy metal.

I posted it because of the idea that smart people listen to metal. The bands they classified as metal isn't

Armin · « **Reply #10 on:** March 22, 2007, 04:35:09 pm »

I figured, 'tis why I said "partially" full of shit.

Sidoh · « **Reply #11 on:** March 22, 2007, 04:38:52 pm »

I didn't read the whole article, but it doesn't seem to consider that "metal" is currently a popular genre...

trust · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2007, 06:54:33 pm »

Quote from: Sidoh on March 22, 2007, 04:38:52 pm

I didn't read the whole article, but it doesn't seem to consider that "metal" is currently a popular genre...

Would it be incorrect in saying that? I don't consider metal a current popular genre. Maybe in the 80's but not now.

BigAznDaddy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2007, 07:17:16 pm »

Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2007, 11:32:22 pm

That's why nobody listens to metal at my school! People like BigAznDaddy and such...

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Mr Cadwallader then held an online discussion involving 19 members of the academy, 17 of whom were heavy metal fans. They spoke of listening to bands including System of a Down, Slipknot, Tool, Dragon Force, Forward Russia and In Flames when they were in a bad mood and using it to work off frustrations and anger.

YUCK.

Yup Metal sux balls. but most of the people that are smart at our school do listen to metal... so.. yup

Sidoh · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:12:03 pm »

Quote from: OG Trust on March 22, 2007, 06:54:33 pm

Would it be incorrect in saying that? I don't consider metal a current popular genre. Maybe in the 80's but not now.

I'm pretty sure a large number of young people listen to metal...

leet_muffin · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:25:34 pm »

Quote from: Sidoh on March 22, 2007, 08:12:03 pm

Quote from: OG Trust on March 22, 2007, 06:54:33 pm
Would it be incorrect in saying that? I don't consider metal a current popular genre. Maybe in the 80's but not now.

I'm pretty sure a large number of young people listen to metal...

Maybe mallcore/emocore.

iago · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:29:38 pm »

I think it depends where you live, most people I know don't listen to it.

I also find that a lot of people listen to numetal/metalcore, but they tend not to be the smarter folk.

Newby · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:34:23 pm »

Quote from: iago on March 22, 2007, 08:29:38 pm

I think it depends where you live, most people I know don't listen to it.

I also find that a lot of people listen to numetal/metalcore, but they tend not to be the smarter folk.

Indeed.

Hitmen · « **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2007, 12:17:00 am »

Haha, I went through gifted and talented programs until highschool, when I quit because they started making me do extra work. I'm don't think any of them were really metalheads, I only really know like 3 others and they're all brothers. But yeah, I don't listen to metal for some fucking gay emo reason like channeling my agression out. I like it because it's awesome. Very few other types of music have such an abundance of bands who actually treat their music as a composition rather than just a song. You also don't see the kind of technical prowess displayed in metal anywhere else. And yeah, I like classical music too. Paganini shreds.

Armin · « **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2007, 12:46:13 am »

Quote from: Hitmen on March 23, 2007, 12:17:00 am

Haha, I went through gifted and talented programs until highschool, when I quit because they started making me do extra work. I'm don't think any of them were really metalheads, I only really know like 3 others and they're all brothers. But yeah, I don't listen to metal for some fucking gay emo reason like channeling my agression out. I like it because it's awesome. Very few other types of music have such an abundance of bands who actually treat their music as a composition rather than just a song. You also don't see the kind of technical prowess displayed in metal anywhere else. And yeah, I like classical music too. Paganini shreds.

I'd argue that progressive rock, jazz, and classical all have more technical prowess, as you put it, than any type of metal. Other than that though, metal is definitely ahead of the game.

Hitmen · « **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:17:11 am »

Quote from: Metal Militia on March 23, 2007, 12:46:13 am

I'd argue that progressive rock, jazz, and classical all have more technical prowess, as you put it, than any type of metal. Other than that though, metal is definitely ahead of the game.

Jazz is dumb. Anything labeled progressive usually sucks, no matter how good the players are. On the other hand, classical is totally badass, and classical guitar is awesome. I have a friend who totally shreds who's starting to take classical guitar lessons and it's improving his overall playing significantly.

Armin · « **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:41:37 am »

Quote from: Hitmen on March 23, 2007, 01:17:11 am

Quote from: Metal Militia on March 23, 2007, 12:46:13 am
I'd argue that progressive rock, jazz, and classical all have more technical prowess, as you put it, than any type of metal. Other than that though, metal is definitely ahead of the game.
Jazz is dumb. Anything labeled progressive usually sucks, no matter how good the players are. On the other hand, classical is totally badass, and classical guitar is awesome. I have a friend who totally shreds who's starting to take classical guitar lessons and it's improving his overall playing significantly.

You said technical prowess, not if it sounds good. Jazz is basically right behind boy bands on my list of the fruitiest music ever, while it can be fun to play and improvise in moderation. If I play jazz for more than 5 minutes, I feel homosexual and that I should go to a gay bar.

As for progressive, Symphony X and Dream Theater are fucking amazing. It really depends on if the band can pull it off, though.

And classical, you don't have to tell my twice. I love transcribing Paganini to guitar, then throwing on some distortion for a neoclassical sound.

Joe · « **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2007, 03:44:14 am »

A friend of mine from computer class is a pretty smart guy and he's a big Metallica/Megadeth fan. Other than us two, and this one little lame kid (Zagaroth knows him -- Nick!) who only listens to it because we do, nobody else really likes metal.

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And if I'd never picked up drumsticks or a guitar pick, I probably wouldn't give two shits about metal. I guess I really like it because I can respect how much practice it takes to get that good at your instruments, whereas rap is what.. four beats on a synthesyser, and some of this "punk rock" they've made lately sounds more like they're trying to break their instruments than play them.

iago · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:23:06 am »

Quote from: Joe[x86] on March 23, 2007, 03:44:14 am

A friend of mine from computer class is a pretty smart guy and he's a big Metallica/Megadeth fan.

In a thread like this, I don't think bigger-name bands or mainstream bands count. I know tons of people who are fans of Metallica or Megadeth, but that doesn't really mean anything.

Newby · « **Reply #24 on:** March 23, 2007, 11:20:46 am »

Quote from: iago on March 23, 2007, 10:23:06 am

Quote from: Joe[x86] on March 23, 2007, 03:44:14 am
A friend of mine from computer class is a pretty smart guy and he's a big Metallica/Megadeth fan.
In a thread like this, I don't think bigger-name bands or mainstream bands count. I know tons of people who are fans of Metallica or Megadeth, but that doesn't really mean anything.

Srsly.

BigAznDaddy · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2007, 01:52:08 pm »

Quote from: Newby on March 23, 2007, 11:20:46 am

Quote from: iago on March 23, 2007, 10:23:06 am
Quote from: Joe[x86] on March 23, 2007, 03:44:14 am
A friend of mine from computer class is a pretty smart guy and he's a big Metallica/Megadeth fan.
In a thread like this, I don't think bigger-name bands or mainstream bands count. I know tons of people who are fans of Metallica or Megadeth, but that doesn't really mean anything.

Srsly.

I agree I listen to Metallica Master of puppets (thanks to newby) and i like it ... sort of.. but it doesn't mean i like metal in general.

Towelie · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2007, 01:56:45 pm »

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on March 25, 2007, 01:52:08 pm

Quote from: Newby on March 23, 2007, 11:20:46 am
Quote from: iago on March 23, 2007, 10:23:06 am
Quote from: Joe[x86] on March 23, 2007, 03:44:14 am
A friend of mine from computer class is a pretty smart guy and he's a big Metallica/Megadeth fan.
In a thread like this, I don't think bigger-name bands or mainstream bands count. I know tons of people who are fans of Metallica or Megadeth, but that doesn't really mean anything.

Srsly.
I agree I listen to Metallica Master of puppets (thanks to newby) and i like it ... sort of.. but it doesn't mean i like metal in general.

Death metal is an acquired taste

deadly7 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:17:04 pm »

Quote from: Towelie on March 25, 2007, 01:56:45 pm

Death metal is an acquired taste

Either that or you've gotta be really drunk to listen to it.

leet_muffin · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:25:06 pm »

I usually end up listening to crossover when I'm smashed. Last night it was DRI, Cryptic Slaughter, and Suicidal Tendencies.

Chromium Bass · « **Reply #29 on:** March 29, 2007, 10:30:19 pm »

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I'd argue that progressive rock, jazz, and classical all have more technical prowess, as you put it, than any type of metal. Other than that though, metal is definitely ahead of the game.

What about Math Metal?

I love metal myself, and I'm not "smart" so to speak. I think the whole article is just speculation, and random chance of the statistics for a greater number of "smart" people listen to metal.

Armin · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2007, 11:01:40 pm »

Quote from: Chromium Bass on March 29, 2007, 10:30:19 pm

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I'd argue that progressive rock, jazz, and classical all have more technical prowess, as you put it, than any type of metal. Other than that though, metal is definitely ahead of the game.

What about Math Metal?

Math metal is a more simplified version of progressive metal/rock.

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Author Topic: Metal appeals to the smart? (Read 9864 times)

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