Author Topic: I need frontpage... (Read 9038 times)

If I actually did want to make something like SMF, I actually would use Notepad and test frequently with Firefox. I don't like WYSIWYG editors because that code is extremely sloppy and a pain in the ass to edit a long time after the making of the website. Of course, I haven't actually made a website in... over a year now, I think. And I hate using a lot of images, anyways (which is why I <3 Lynx).

iago · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2007, 08:55:46 am »

Even when I was working at a web development company, I was using vim for all my Web page editing. I never had a problem doing complicated layouts with a text-editor. I actually found it easier because I knew exactly what everything did, so if there was a weird problem (like an extra gap between elements), I was much more likely to be able to track it down. If it was something tricky, I would often make all the different areas brightly colored, which would visually show me what was going on.

But anyway, the rest of the guys at work used Dreamweaver, which is why I recommend it. Text-editors aren't for everybody's needs.

Ender · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:56:27 pm »

vim's great, but the fact that there's no color is pretty depressing

Ergot · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:04:01 pm »

Quote from: Ender on April 12, 2007, 05:56:27 pm

vim's great, but the fact that there's no color is pretty depressing

Mine has color :S

abc · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:22:11 pm »

Certainly, I recommend Dream weaver, I just write in the code portion, I never use the design mode, I'm just extremely forgetful and it helps to have a little menu pop up with options.

rabbit · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:42:55 pm »

Quote from: Sidoh on April 12, 2007, 12:04:59 am

Quote from: rabbit on April 11, 2007, 11:58:30 pm
Yeah, I actually do prefer Notepad2 for everything I do

If that was a response to my posts, please show me a design you've done and I'll tell you whether or not I think it's comparatively complex.

I wrote a course management and forum system for my senior project. I can't find where I stuck it, but I have it somewhere. I could send it to you if I find it.

iago · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2007, 07:19:10 pm »

Quote from: Ergot on April 12, 2007, 06:04:01 pm

Quote from: Ender on April 12, 2007, 05:56:27 pm
vim's great, but the fact that there's no color is pretty depressing
Mine has color :S

Mine too. Try ":syn on" -- syntax highlighting is great!

Sidoh · « **Reply #18 on:** April 13, 2007, 01:16:17 am »

Quote from: rabbit on April 12, 2007, 06:42:55 pm

I wrote a course management and forum system for my senior project. I can't find where I stuck it, but I have it somewhere. I could send it to you if I find it.

I've done similar things. That doesn't mean that the layout is complex.

I agree that it is unnecessary to use an WYSIWYG editor most of the time, but to develop a complex layout, it's totally asinine to tinker with the HTML in notepad until it looks okay. Personally, I don't use them unless I'm asked to, but there's no way I would have even considered starting a layout as complex as the one I with most recently (for work) without a wysiwyg editor (by the way, have you guys ever heard that pronounced "whissy-wig?" I'd never heard it said that way and someone said it today and I thought it sounded funny lol).

Joe · « **Reply #19 on:** April 13, 2007, 01:26:57 am »

It was pronounced whissy-wig in my programming class (we dealed with HTML a bit as a side during our Applet's unit).

Sidoh · « **Reply #20 on:** April 13, 2007, 02:02:16 am »

Quote from: Joe[x86/64] on April 13, 2007, 01:26:57 am

It was pronounced whissy-wig in my programming class (we dealed with HTML a bit as a side during our Applet's unit).

Yeah, I guess it makes sense. However, I've never taken a class that deals with web design, so I've invented my own conventions.

Super_X · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2007, 02:04:27 am »

Quote from: Sidoh on April 13, 2007, 01:16:17 am

Quote from: rabbit on April 12, 2007, 06:42:55 pm
I wrote a course management and forum system for my senior project. I can't find where I stuck it, but I have it somewhere. I could send it to you if I find it.

I've done similar things. That doesn't mean that the layout is complex.

I agree that it is unnecessary to use an WYSIWYG editor most of the time, but to develop a complex layout, it's totally asinine to tinker with the HTML in notepad until it looks okay. Personally, I don't use them unless I'm asked to, but there's no way I would have even considered starting a layout as complex as the one I with most recently (for work) without a wysiwyg editor (by the way, have you guys ever heard that pronounced "whissy-wig?" I'd never heard it said that way and someone said it today and I thought it sounded funny lol).

I have always heard it as "What you see is what you get." I deal with people that tend not to use acronyms unless it's something redundant, like "GNU," or "WINE."

rabbit · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:52:55 am »

Wizzy-wig. Guh-nu. .....Wine.

iago · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2007, 08:51:36 am »

Quote from: rabbit on April 13, 2007, 06:52:55 am

Wizzy-wig. Guh-nu. .....Wine.

I've heard it as Wuzzy-wig. That might just be a Canadian pronunciation, though.

And yeah, gi-nu, gi-nome, etc. -- initial g sounds rock.

Hitmen · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:46:30 pm »

I hate it when people pronounce acronyms phonetically. It sounds dumb. It's not hard to say G-N-U, or whatever. And the first time I ever heard someone pronounce "SQL" as "Sequel" I was throughly confused. That said, I do usually break my own rule when it comes to GUI.

iago · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:54:34 pm »

"Sequel" is definitely wrong, I only ever use that one when I noticed glazed-over eyes when I say S-Q-L.

For Gnu, I just like pronouncing leading G's

Hitmen · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:00:34 pm »

According to wikipedia, it's SQL for SQL and mySQL, but it actually is pronounced sequel for microsoft's SQL server.

Sidoh · « **Reply #27 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:08:21 pm »

Quote from: Hitmen on April 13, 2007, 07:00:34 pm

According to wikipedia, it's SQL for SQL and mySQL, but it actually is pronounced sequel for microsoft's SQL server.

Microsoft makes their own conventions... even for their acronyms. lol.

Yeah, my boss always used to say sequel. I read a book that explicitly stated that it's pronounced S-Q-L, so that's how I always said it.

Also, I did not know that LaTeX was pronounced "Lay-tech..." lmao.

iago · « **Reply #28 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:09:57 pm »

That's interesting. I've heard plenty of people say "My Sequel", and I'll continue saying "Microsoft S-Q-L" server, though. To hell with Wikipedia's proper pronunciations!

(I've had to spell "pronunciation" three times today (four times counting that one), and I spelled it the same wrong way all three times (at first). You'd think I'd learn!)

Quote from: Sidoh on April 13, 2007, 07:08:21 pm

Also, I did not know that LaTeX was pronounced "Lay-tech..." lmao.

Damn you for posting while I'm typing!

But yeah, I just recently (like, last couple weeks) learned to properly pronounce La-tech!

Warrior · « **Reply #29 on:** April 14, 2007, 01:57:06 pm »

I'm with iago with the S-Q-L pronunciation.

Sidoh · « **Reply #30 on:** April 14, 2007, 02:21:41 pm »

Quote from: Warrior[x86] on April 14, 2007, 01:57:06 pm

I'm with iago with the S-Q-L pronunciation.

Yeah, I have been since I heard what it is. I'm not one to invent pronunciation for acronyms.. lol

Newby · « **Reply #31 on:** April 14, 2007, 03:44:50 pm »

Just realized what sequel server was. Haha, my dad is an r-tard.

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