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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2007, 10:43:11 am »
Actually, the new rendering model is significantly more memory intensive as it is based on something akin to buffering each individually rendered window (though it will try to buffer in video memory before system memory).  The previous model is very optimized for low memory consumption and in general simply redraws where needed instead of using buffered or cached data (though there are some previsions to do this, they aren't the default or the typical case).

There are disadvantages to the old model when it comes to simply not being able to do things like the kind of visual effects presented by the graphics system when in WDDM mode.  If you're worried about it's memory usage and don't care for the extra visual effects, then I'd recommend turning off Aero.

You cannot, however, have a free lunch - if you want the flashy visual effects, then you'll need to be willing to sacrifice video memory (and eventually RAM after that fills) for buffering for WDDM/Aero.

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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2007, 10:46:12 am »
mk, thanks.

Any suggestions for finding correct keyboard drivers?  The best I could find was a multimedia driver from 2001...that's whack, man.

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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2007, 11:10:01 am »
You cannot, however, have a free lunch - if you want the flashy visual effects, then you'll need to be willing to sacrifice video memory (and eventually RAM after that fills) for buffering for WDDM/Aero.

This is true, it virtualizes the GPU memory for each of the Window's content. I'm not sure what the average load would be in an ideal situation though so this may vary greatly depending on how much memory your video card has.
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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2007, 07:03:13 pm »
Not sure what you want/if you're going to get it, but I ran across this on my Newegg package that arrived today:

"The Affordable Gaming Notebook"

For the buck, that looks like quite a bit of bang. I'm honestly thinking about getting it... but we'll see.

EDIT -- And for $81, you can easily move that up to 2GB of memory. And even yet, for $240, 4GB. And you can double your hard-drive space for a mere $250. But 100GB should be good for a notebook. It's not like it's replacing your desktop..
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2007, 08:21:14 pm »
GeForce 7600 graphics card sucks IMO.. I recently bought a computer from staples, and has that card, with 1GB ram and I'm getting such a low FPS rate in Counter-Strike Source, and WoW isn't even really playable.

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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2007, 12:33:04 am »
GeForce 7600 graphics card sucks IMO.. I recently bought a computer from staples, and has that card, with 1GB ram and I'm getting such a low FPS rate in Counter-Strike Source, and WoW isn't even really playable.

Could be the processor... could be a multitude of things. 256MB VRAM gets me an amazing framerate on my desktop machine for CS:S and WoW, and the card in the laptop has the same amount. I also have 1GB RAM and a 3.4 GHz 32bit processor.
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2007, 03:40:02 am »
It's not DWM, it's the Gateway.  Gateways are terrible.
my hp laptop and desktop suggest that dwm is using alot of memory too


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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2007, 09:43:48 pm »
GeForce 7600 graphics card sucks IMO.. I recently bought a computer from staples, and has that card, with 1GB ram and I'm getting such a low FPS rate in Counter-Strike Source, and WoW isn't even really playable.

Could be the processor... could be a multitude of things. 256MB VRAM gets me an amazing framerate on my desktop machine for CS:S and WoW, and the card in the laptop has the same amount. I also have 1GB RAM and a 3.4 GHz 32bit processor.

I'm too lazy to look at the stuff on it now, but I know it's an HP Running Windows XP Media Center, with AMD Dual Core.

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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2007, 12:57:09 am »
It's not DWM, it's the Gateway.  Gateways are terrible.
my hp laptop and desktop suggest that dwm is using alot of memory too


thanks warrior
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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2007, 04:17:03 am »
It's not DWM, it's the Gateway.  Gateways are terrible.
my hp laptop and desktop suggest that dwm is using alot of memory too


thanks warrior
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Re: New Laptop
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2007, 04:52:30 pm »
GeForce 7600 graphics card sucks IMO.. I recently bought a computer from staples, and has that card, with 1GB ram and I'm getting such a low FPS rate in Counter-Strike Source, and WoW isn't even really playable.
Are you fucking kidding me? I have a 7600GT and I play source perfectly with a good FPS.

I play BF2 on medium settings, and WoW runs very well. I'd return that computer if I were you.