Clan x86
Off topic/Crap => Trash Can => Topic started by: Joe on October 02, 2005, 01:19:12 pm
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Yeah.
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I would wait a little longer Joe.
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I VOTE HIM!!
(http://www.temptationgifts.com/graphics/new/Cig%20Tin%20I%20Love%20Fags%20lg.jpg)
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No!!!
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No!!!
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Ouch.. Thats gotta suck for Joe :(
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Give him a chance, geez!
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Give him a chance, geez!
He already had that chance, the first time through. :P
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I'm sure he had more than one chances given.
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I would wait a little longer Joe.
Nail <-- Hammer
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Nice, xex and MyndFyre, the two people who hate me most in this clan (except Tubbyload), are the first ones to post. Then Newby, Mr. Meh, posts. Look alive, audience!!
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To all you anti Joe's, I would say he got in the clan somehow so he obviously can do stuff right, wouldn't you like to have the chance to prove yourself if you were in his posistion?
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To all you anti Joe's, I would say he got in the clan somehow so he obviously can do stuff right, wouldn't you like to have the chance to prove yourself if you were in his posistion?
To all you for-Joe's, he was capable of getting in, so obviously he can do some stupid shit seeing as how he isn't in it anymore. =P
I see where he is coming from, but he needs to give it time.
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Nice, xex and MyndFyre, the two people who hate me most in this clan (except Tubbyload), are the first ones to post. Then Newby, Mr. Meh, posts. Look alive, audience!!
Joe, I don't hate you. I just don't think you put a good face on the clan. You're fun to give a hard time to, partly because you deserve it and partly because you take it fairly well. But you just do really stupid stuff, and that stuff can make our group look bad.
Maybe once you grow up a bit and you stop doing knee-jerk things without thinking, we'll have a spot for you. In fact, if that's the kind of person I see in you, then I would hope to be the first to welcome you back into the clan. You have a lot of potential waiting to be realized, Joe, but before we can even reach towards that potential, you need to start... well, thinking, before you do stuff. And you have to make getting attention not so much a priority.
To all you anti Joe's, I would say he got in the clan somehow so he obviously can do stuff right, wouldn't you like to have the chance to prove yourself if you were in his posistion?
Joe had a LOT of opportunities to prove himself when he was a member. He proved himself to have bad judgment. I voted against Joe (http://www.x86labs.org/forum/index.php/topic,921.0.html) when he was first applying to be a member, too, so your argument "he obviously can do stuff right" doesn't fly with me. My opinion of Joe (the "original analysis" I referred to here (http://www.x86labs.org/forum/index.php/topic,1924.0.html)) hasn't changed.
Warning: the links above are in Members forums. They were provided because GS is a member and the response was directed at him. Before you ask, no, you cannot see what they say.
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Doesn't matter what your vote was he got in and that is doing something right. He can prove himself to people, I would never consider someone "permantly" out of a circle, thats just arrogant and nonhelpfull, pesimistec.
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Doesn't matter what your vote was he got in and that is doing something right. He can prove himself to people, I would never consider someone "permantly" out of a circle, thats just arrogant and nonhelpfull, pesimistec.
His election period was a lot shorter than the time he was in the clan. If you ask me, it's harder to play nice for a longer time than it is to suck up for a few weeks while you're being voted on.
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Doesn't matter what your vote was he got in and that is doing something right. He can prove himself to people, I would never consider someone "permantly" out of a circle, thats just arrogant and nonhelpfull, pesimistec.
I'm done trying to be logical with you. You don't want to read my arguments. And then you say that I'm arrogant, unhelpful and pessimistic. READ THE POST.
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Doesn't matter what your vote was he got in and that is doing something right. He can prove himself to people, I would never consider someone "permantly" out of a circle, thats just arrogant and nonhelpfull, pesimistec.
Like Myndy said, you obviously didn't read. Right inside of his post he said if Joe matures, he'd love to be one of the first welcome him in. All he's basically saying is to wait, I don't know where you got "permanently" from.
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Don't attempt to make an argument when you don't fully understand the context of your competitor's message.
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Don't attempt to make an argument when you don't fully understand the context of your competitor's message.
What, is Gamesnake really Joe in disguise?
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Don't attempt to make an argument when you don't fully understand the context of your competitor's message.
What, is Gamesnake really Joe in disguise?
Nah, GS isn't from our continent.
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First off I wasn't just talking to you, MyndFyre, and second I don't understand why you don't think I read your post, maybe you can't my opinion on the matter but it is still my opinion.
The reason I defend Joe here is because personally he's been really cool to me and he is my friend, I will stick up for him because I believe he just needs to prove himself again, that's all.
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Or perhaps he convinced the right people(person), causing all of the non-believers and unenlightened ones who either did not vote or followed the convinced blindly, passing a vote leading to this catostrophic series of events? Is this a hole in the very fabric of our design? Yes, but have those holes magically started to fix themselves? Yes. He was fairly judged and cast back out into the darkness. I pray your illumination, GameSnake, will lead him back into the light.
Joe: I do not hate you, so please do not give yourself that much credit. I think MyndFyre said it best.
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Or perhaps he convinced the right people(person), causing all of the non-believers and unenlightened ones who either did not vote or followed the convinced blindly, passing a vote leading to this catostrophic series of events? Is this a hole in the very fabric of our design? Yes, but have those holes magically started to fix themselves? Yes. He was fairly judged and cast back out into the darkness. I pray your illumination, GameSnake, will lead him back into the light.
Joe: I do not hate you, so please do not give yourself that much credit. I think MyndFyre said it best.
Your words are so mystical with my beatboxing music of thy Fat Boys, please, let me suckith your dick...eth.
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Your words are so mystical with my beatboxing music of thy Fat Boys, please, let me suckith your dick...eth.
I feel obliged to point out this post (http://www.x86labs.org/forum/index.php/topic,3190.0.html) that you made as you toss BS at Tuberload.
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Your words are so mystical with my beatboxing music of thy Fat Boys, please, let me suckith your dick...eth.
I feel obliged to point out this post (http://www.x86labs.org/forum/index.php/topic,3190.0.html) that you made as you toss BS at Tuberload.
Umm...what? That reply to Tuberload was a semi-joke, I'm pointing out that he sounds very...in a mythical sense, holy in his posts.
And that post was the truth, too bad Krazed trashed it.
I'm not tossing any "BS" at Tuberload, you can't disagree with me when I say that his points are very hard to ignore, because of the way he speaks while doing so. (No, I'm not sucking up, just giving you my reasoning.)
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Just sounded like you were trying to be a jerk.
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I like to arrange and use my words in such a way because I find it to be fun. I am always interested in seeing peoples reactions.
Edit: Removed a statement, I do know why I find it fun.
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I like to arrange and use my words in such a way because it is fun to me, I realy have no idea why. I am always interested to see peoples reactions.
Well, mine is I think you're a monk. :P
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To prove everyone on this forum and in this clan that he's able to handle being a semi-mature member he must actually do it before he ask to join, he hasn't done either excepct post on the "to-join-forum" twice thinking that's all he needs to do, which makes me kind of believe he doesn't want to change and if he does it's only to get past the voting stage. As i've asked this question before in the member forum yet you(gamesnake) haven't answer to it, maybe you haven't read it so here it is again:
Honestly, If he was able to handle his memberships from the start, None of this would've happen at all.
For all you people who's support his rejoining, Tell me what difference does it makes if he rejoin now? From a clan point of view, not because you're his friend.
Joe had many chances from he first joined, then to when he was in the clan, and then when he first knew he was going to be voted out. That's more than enough.
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Joe: I do not hate you, so please do not give yourself that much credit. I think MyndFyre said it best.
Not to be a flame or anything Tuberload, but if you stopped speaking in riddles I could understand (and work things out with) you much better.
Tell me what difference does it makes if he rejoin now? From a clan point of view, not because you're his friend.
It gets me back in a "circle" that I was once good friends with. Thats what x86 is about, friendship, isn't it? x86 is a group of close friends..
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And how many of you can honestly say that you're happier now what I'm gone? I'm not saying none of you can, but I'm saying that I still have friends here, and numerous members would want me back.
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Maybe he's one of the members that doesn't want you back because he doesn't like you?
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Not to be a flame or anything Tuberload, but if you stopped speaking in riddles I could understand (and work things out with) you much better.
I understand him just fine, he's not speaking in riddles at all, so why can't you?
It gets me back in a "circle" that I was once good friends with. Thats what x86 is about, friendship, isn't it? x86 is a group of close friends..
You don't have to be IN x86 to be friends with them, look at me, I've been around this place before most any of these guys next to the original members, and I'm not even in x86, so what are you trying to get at?
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Plus I get to read what everyone said about me while I was gone. Thats been sort of bugging me. =p
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We called you a fat tub of lard, that's about it.
No but seriously.. I agree with Myndy. You need to like, grow up... You can be fun sometimes on AIM, just incorporate that. People found it annoying when they met me at first (I'm the same all around, unless i m jokin and m talking lyke dis, l0l0l!) but hey, I guess that the people in the clan liked me enough to vote yes on me. Just.. grow up, stop defiling images of me, and uh.. be yourself.
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be yourself.
A more mature self.
I don't really know you, but from what everyone says.. you aren't the most mature person. So, just act more mature, and think before you do stuff.
Say to yourself "What would happen if I did this" then if you think it's a good idea do it, if you don't think it's such a grand idea, then don't do it. It's simple. :)
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Not to be a flame or anything Tuberload, but if you stopped speaking in riddles I could understand (and work things out with) you much better.
I understand him just fine, he's not speaking in riddles at all, so why can't you?
/signed
We called you a fat tub of lard, that's about it.
Damn... I missed that discussion!
Say to yourself "What would happen if I did this" then if you think it's a good idea do it, if you don't think it's such a grand idea, then don't do it. It's simple. :)
Joe, one of the reasons I think you shouldn't be in the clan is because I perceive you as a poser, and someone who tried to draw attention to himself. These are traits I consider when I evaluate someone's character. I may be wrong on either or both of these, but they're my opinion. You can or cannot try to change it. I don't care. But being someone who wants all the attention for himself isn't going to get you very far in life.
Being part of this clan is supposed to be beneficial to you, as well. But you didn't take advantage of that as a member; in fact, you ignored it entirely.
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And how many of you can honestly say that you're happier now what I'm gone? I'm not saying none of you can, but I'm saying that I still have friends here, and numerous members would want me back.
If numerous members wants you back you wouldn't have gotten voted out in the first place. It's pretty much makes no difference if you're gone or not, the clan still goes on and everything is still normal. If you attempt to change then i'm pretty sure many members would want you back and to help out the environment of this clan, but yet all you do is disrupt it. Which is why imo, you shouldn't come back untill changes are made.
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If numerous members wants you back you wouldn't have gotten voted out in the first place.
The day, and the following days, a large amount of members (namely Uh, no) IM'd me saying that they were sorry I was voted out, and had they known a vote was going on, they would have voted for me to stay in. I can't see the member boards, obviously, so I don't know this for sure, but I think that with their three votes, I would still be in x86. But I've accepted the fact (rather, newby made me accept the fact) that I'm out of x86 and theres nothing I can do about it, except rejoin. And thats exactly what I'm (attempting to) do.
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I'm in a mood to not single people out right now. But yeah, people did say that.
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The day, and the following days, a large amount of members (namely Uh, no) IM'd me saying that they were sorry I was voted out, and had they known a vote was going on, they would have voted for me to stay in.
A large amount of members? The number I'm pretty sure that didn't get to vote (I have the list still) isn't very large.
Perhaps it's symbolism that members should participate more actively?
I can't see the member boards, obviously, so I don't know this for sure, but I think that with their three votes, I would still be in x86.
/home/newby/Joe.vote.gz is not the same as the posts on the members' forum. Infact, there are more votes in my Joe.vote.gz than there are on the members' forum, simply because people don't want their vote public.
But I've accepted the fact (rather, newby made me accept the fact) that I'm out of x86 and theres nothing I can do about it, except rejoin. And thats exactly what I'm (attempting to) do.
You make it sound as if I wanted you out, and don't want you back in. I don't like when people make me look bad. I don't like it one fucking bit.
I am NOT going to extend a vote past its deadline because some members were too fucking inactive to visit the forum for a good minute or two, check up on what is new, and vote. If they were truly inactive, their vote would have not counted towards the total. If they were busy, that is their problem.
I am NOT going to bend the rules for one particular vote. I'd bend it for all of them.
Wait, if I was bending it for all of them, I could just change the rule, correct?
I am NOT going to reinstate a vote because you think your vote would pass and you would be in x86.
Why?
Because that would be bending the rules, and that is not something I intend to do.
If they weren't active enough for their vote, perhaps that is a message them to be more active and shit they don't like won't happen or may not happen. I guess the phrase "your vote counts, no matter how small" works here!
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Sorry newby, I meant that I discussed it with you and gave up on trying to make you bend the rules.
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Sorry newby, I meant that I discussed it with you and gave up on trying to make you bend the rules.
You tried and make newby bend the rules for you so you could get in? Why would that be necessary? Apparently you did something wrong...
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Sorry newby, I meant that I discussed it with you and gave up on trying to make you bend the rules.
You tried and make newby bend the rules for you so you could get in? Why would that be necessary? Apparently you did something wrong...
And disgraceful, Joe, if you we're trying to pull a stunt like that, I'm glad you're not in any stance of power anymore. I don't like to pull myself into these members types of threads, but that's really low Joe, wether or not you were "joking".
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You tried and make newby bend the rules for you so you could get in? Why would that be necessary? Apparently you did something wrong...
And disgraceful, Joe, if you we're trying to pull a stunt like that, I'm glad you're not in any stance of power anymore. I don't like to pull myself into these members types of threads, but that's really low Joe, wether or not you were "joking".
Wow, I'm sorry I used Newby's wording. I was asking him to extend the voting period one hour (from the conversation) so that the people who didn't think it would ever work could vote, and so that I could stay in the clan.
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You tried and make newby bend the rules for you so you could get in? Why would that be necessary? Apparently you did something wrong...
And disgraceful, Joe, if you we're trying to pull a stunt like that, I'm glad you're not in any stance of power anymore. I don't like to pull myself into these members types of threads, but that's really low Joe, wether or not you were "joking".
Wow, I'm sorry I used Newby's wording. I was asking him to extend the voting period one hour (from the conversation) so that the people who didn't think it would ever work could vote, and so that I could stay in the clan.
Therefore bending the rules, therefore disgraceful.
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Scr33n0r, has anyone ever told you that you aren't in x86? Well, you aren't, and wether or not I get it has nothing to do with you.
(http://www.javaop.com/~joe/images/giveafuckmeter.gif)
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Good luck on getting in.
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I agree with Screenor.
and that "GiveAFuckO'Meter" isn't helping, Joe...
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Joe, stupid shit like that is probably why you got kicked out.
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Mello out all of you and reinstate Joe's member forum so i have a place to spam, or fear me because i am comming for you Deadly7.
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\m/ (0.o) \m/
Picture of nate as taken by my spycam when he posted that.
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Scr33n0r, has anyone ever told you that you aren't in x86? Well, you aren't, and wether or not I get it has nothing to do with you.
(http://www.javaop.com/~joe/images/giveafuckmeter.gif)
Find a post anywhere on this or any other forum/site where I stated I'm in x86, and I'll care to even step near debating that arguement. I respect x86 as a clan, I enjoy the members, I don't like the fact that you JUST got kicked out, and in less then a month you've posted two threads in the ' I'd like to join ' forum, asking to be voted on again. Wether I'm in the clan or not, it should show you that you're not just lessening your chances of getting in, however you're also annoying the outside base of x86 (the people who just talk and hang out here).
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Lot's o' politics goin' on in the x86 forums today.
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Politics? what the hell are you talking about?
Anyways if I get in joe I will drop you a vote.
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Politics? what the hell are you talking about?
Anyways if I get in joe I will drop you a vote.
Politics does have multiple meanings you know.
Definitions of politics on the Web:
* social relations involving authority or power
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Okay, this is getting out of hand... get back on topic or I'm gonna lock it.
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Locking preferred.
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Locking preferred.
I would've to go with the staying on topic, otherwise joe would start ANOTHER thread about joinning.
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Locking preferred.
I would've to go with the staying on topic, otherwise joe would start ANOTHER thread about joinning.
LOL. You made my day.
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I think that Joe should be let back in. He knows his boundries now and what line not to cross. Unless he would like to get kicked out again if he does rejoin, I think he'll stay in line.
Starting multiple threads shows persistance which means he's willing to work to improve how he is in x86.
I don't think he makes our clan look bad, after all who likes a bunch of stuck up mostly programmers who can't joke around?
I think Joe has to understand as well that it would be up to him to stay in line and that he can't be constantly reminded to since we arn't going to babysit him. Once he understands that and shows signs of improvement, I have no problem giving him my vote.
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I don't think he makes our clan look bad, after all who likes a bunch of stuck up mostly programmers who can't joke around?
I like to consider myself a modest blunt asshole who has the ability to program in Java if I ever feel the urge. I also like to joke around.
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I consider myself knowledgeable in programming, "but I'm no super genious, or are I?"
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You tried and make newby bend the rules for you so you could get in? Why would that be necessary? Apparently you did something wrong...
And disgraceful, Joe, if you we're trying to pull a stunt like that, I'm glad you're not in any stance of power anymore. I don't like to pull myself into these members types of threads, but that's really low Joe, wether or not you were "joking".
Wow, I'm sorry I used Newby's wording. I was asking him to extend the voting period one hour (from the conversation) so that the people who didn't think it would ever work could vote, and so that I could stay in the clan.
Therefore bending the rules, therefore disgraceful.
How do you get that connection? I mean, how the hell is asking somebody to bend the rules disgraceful? Sure, it might be a pathetic attempt, but disgraceful?
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Joe, stupid shit like that is probablyexactly why you got kicked out.
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Locked...