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Title: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 01, 2008, 03:45:22 pm
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M 317 is basically introduction to analysis.
M 467 is second semester algebra.  I'm taking the first semester now and I've really enjoyed it.
CS 520 is the graduate algorithms course.  I'm taking the capstone senior course this year and it's definitely been my favorite class.
CS 314 is software engineering.  It's going to be boring. :(

I'm planning on registering for another class, but I'm reserving it for a stupid core curriculum course.  The only one that sounded interesting was some philosophy class that was like "history of scientific thought" or something, but it's not offered next semester, so I still need to figure out what I'm going to take.  I want to take the graduate AI course too, but I need to get these dumb core curriculum classes out of the way. :(
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: iago on November 02, 2008, 12:04:37 am
Here's my schedule:
8:30 - 12:00 -- work
12:00 - 13:00 -- lunch
13:00 - 4:30 -- work

Woo!
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Chavo on November 02, 2008, 11:04:16 am
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A MTWF class? weird.

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CS 314 is software engineering.  It's going to be boring. :(
When I took KSU's equivalent of this class I thought it would be pretty boring too but apart from UML the professor managed to make it pretty interesting by requiring outside research projects into software that utilized some cool software engineering techniques.  I wrote a 10 page paper on Rational Rose and a 20 page paper on EMF (Eclipse Modelling Framework).
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 02, 2008, 12:05:42 pm
A MTWF class? weird.

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CS 314 is software engineering.  It's going to be boring. :(
When I took KSU's equivalent of this class I thought it would be pretty boring too but apart from UML the professor managed to make it pretty interesting by requiring outside research projects into software that utilized some cool software engineering techniques.  I wrote a 10 page paper on Rational Rose and a 20 page paper on EMF (Eclipse Modelling Framework).

Heh, yeah.  Math classes are usually 3 credits here, but this one is 4.  CS classes are almost without exception 4 credits, but they usually have 1 hour lab/recitation.

Ah, cool.  I guess it could be fun. :)

Here's my schedule:
8:30 - 12:00 -- work
12:00 - 13:00 -- lunch
13:00 - 4:30 -- work

Woo!

haha :)
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: iago on November 02, 2008, 02:58:44 pm
Here's my schedule:
8:30 - 12:00 -- work
12:00 - 13:00 -- lunch
13:00 - 4:30 -- work

Woo!

haha :)
'I just noticed I flipped from 24h clock to 12h in the middle of that post. :)
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 02, 2008, 02:59:46 pm
Here's my schedule:
8:30 - 12:00 -- work
12:00 - 13:00 -- lunch
13:00 - 4:30 -- work

Woo!

haha :)
'I just noticed I flipped from 24h clock to 12h in the middle of that post. :)

That's a long work schedule!  3 hours of sleep?  Heesh!
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Ender on November 02, 2008, 03:47:28 pm
Is your class using a topological approach to deriving calculus?
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 02, 2008, 03:49:54 pm
Is your class using a topological approach to deriving calculus?

The analysis class?  I couldn't tell you.  I could certainly ask, though.  This is "intro" analysis, so I doubt it's anything too profound.  I'm thinking about taking the followups, which are analysis and analysis w/ complex variables.  Not sure about that though.  It'll depend on how many free credits I have.  I'm definitely planning on taking topology at some point.  That sounds like a really fun topic.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Rule on November 02, 2008, 03:58:53 pm
Is your class using a topological approach to deriving calculus?

The analysis class?  I couldn't tell you.  I could certainly ask, though.  This is "intro" analysis, so I doubt it's anything too profound.  I'm thinking about taking the followups, which are analysis and analysis w/ complex variables.  Not sure about that though.  It'll depend on how many free credits I have.  I'm definitely planning on taking topology at some point.  That sounds like a really fun topic.

Differential geometry is probably more interesting than topology, for most people (e.g. if you don't have some unusual craving for highly obscure and abstract mathematics).  (Don't get me wrong though -- differential geometry is very abstract. :P.  There just seems to be more topics one can relate to, and describe to their friends, etc.).

The intro to topology common to "honors" intro analysis courses is pretty cool though -- metric spaces, compact sets, connected sets, etc.  Often these courses are framed around developing calculus with these more abstract and general topological tools.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 02, 2008, 04:10:11 pm
idk, I really do have an affinity for abstract stuff.  Maybe there's a limit on that, though, as I do enjoy seeing applications every now and again.  I can look into differential geometry, although I expect they'll want me to have prerequisites I don't yet have. :(
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Newby on November 06, 2008, 02:12:17 pm
My schedule for Winter Quarter, 2009:

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/73891/schedulew2009.png)

PHY 009HB: Honors Physics*
MAT 021C: Calculus (series and sequences, according to a friend)
PHI 001: Intro to Philosophy (gen ed)
ECS 030: Intro Prog&Prob Solving (programming)

I CAN'T TAKE NORMAL PHYSICS NOW WTF! :O!!!!!!! I'M DOOMED.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Chavo on November 06, 2008, 02:37:46 pm
You don't want to take normal physics anyway.  GenPhys usually means non-calculus based Physics, which ironically, is harder if you have a strong understanding of Calculus because you have to simply memorize equations rather than learn how they are derived and understand them.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: truste1 on November 06, 2008, 03:21:46 pm
Well, I forgot to register for classes but this is what I'm trying to get into. All but public speaking are waitlisted though.

MWF 10:30-11:20 - The History of Western Art
MWF 12:30-1:20 - Money and Banking
MW 2:30-3:50 - Public Speaking
TWR 1:30-2:20 - Civil War & Reconstruction
TR 10:00-11:20 - Environmental Biology
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Newby on November 06, 2008, 03:51:19 pm
You don't want to take normal physics anyway.  GenPhys usually means non-calculus based Physics, which ironically, is harder if you have a strong understanding of Calculus because you have to simply memorize equations rather than learn how they are derived and understand them.

There are three levels of physics here.

The 7 series ("General Physics") is like... those who need to take physics as a gen ed class. The 9 series ("Classical Physics") is for majors related to physics/math as some other majors require the 9 series. The 9H series (what I'm taking) is for people who really like physics / are in the Honors Program.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Chavo on November 06, 2008, 03:58:42 pm
I'd still prefer that over Algebra based Physics anyday.

My university had 3 tiers as well, GenPhys, EngPhys (for engineers, obviously), and Honors Phys (math/phys majors only).  I took EngPhys but I heard that the only major difference between that and Honors was that Honors required more deriving and theory.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: dark_drake on November 06, 2008, 04:19:16 pm
Do I know what classes I'm going to take? Not really. Could it change? Probably. Anyway, I'm registered for:

Biomedical Engineering
Unit Operations
Unit Operations Lab
Quantitative Analysis (Chemistry course)
Applied math for physical chemistry (Chemistry course)
Process Simulation and Economics

I might drop biomedical engineering in favor of numerical analysis or a polymers course. I can't decide, but I'll probably end up taking those courses next year anyway.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: deadly7 on November 06, 2008, 05:05:13 pm
Do I know what classes I'm going to take? Not really. Could it change? Probably. Anyway, I'm registered for:

Biomedical Engineering
Unit Operations
Unit Operations Lab
Quantitative Analysis (Chemistry course)
Applied math for physical chemistry (Chemistry course)
Process Simulation and Economics

I might drop biomedical engineering in favor of numerical analysis or a polymers course. I can't decide, but I'll probably end up taking those courses next year anyway.
why bme? You're doing ChemE aren't you?
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 06, 2008, 05:19:02 pm
I've heard numerical analysis is fun.  Definitely not my cup of tea, though.  Not nearly abstract enough!
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: dark_drake on November 06, 2008, 06:40:25 pm
Do I know what classes I'm going to take? Not really. Could it change? Probably. Anyway, I'm registered for:

Biomedical Engineering
Unit Operations
Unit Operations Lab
Quantitative Analysis (Chemistry course)
Applied math for physical chemistry (Chemistry course)
Process Simulation and Economics

I might drop biomedical engineering in favor of numerical analysis or a polymers course. I can't decide, but I'll probably end up taking those courses next year anyway.
why bme? You're doing ChemE aren't you?
Chemical engineering programs are gearing more and more toward the biological end of things. It's really just taking principles learned in chemical engineering courses and applying them to living systems. :D

I've heard numerical analysis is fun.  Definitely not my cup of tea, though.  Not nearly abstract enough!
Pft... knowledge without application is no good to me.  :P
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 06, 2008, 06:57:53 pm
Learning for the sake of learning is usually when it's the most fun for me. :)
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: deadly7 on November 07, 2008, 12:59:14 am
Chemical engineering programs are gearing more and more toward the biological end of things. It's really just taking principles learned in chemical engineering courses and applying them to living systems. :D
Only at your school. :P Check out my UofM's Chemical Engineering program (http://www.cems.umn.edu/downloads/ug/ChEn/typ_plan_post_2011.pdf)
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 07, 2008, 01:03:21 am
I registered for Philosophy 100.  That's going to be an interesting course... I was going to do 301, but there were prerequisites which I didn't have. :(
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Ender on November 07, 2008, 02:19:12 am
Tell me what your reading list is when you get it.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Falcon on November 11, 2008, 09:32:05 pm
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After I finish the hist and govt I'll be done with my core curriculum so it'll be all courses for my major after that :)
Diff equations is going to suck.... so is physics.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 11, 2008, 09:37:22 pm
I'm avoiding differential equations, but only because it's an icky "engineering math" course. ;(
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Falcon on November 11, 2008, 09:53:42 pm
Unless if you're a software engineering major here, its not a required course for them, but is for every other engineering, wtf. There was a section on differential equations in my calc 2 class earlier this year but to think it has an entire course on it..
But it's a pre-requisite for so many other classes like Advanced Engineering Math and Electrical Network Analysis so theres no way I can get around it =/
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on November 11, 2008, 09:59:11 pm
Unless if you're a software engineering major here, its not a required course for them, but is for every other engineering, wtf. There was a section on differential equations in my calc 2 class earlier this year but to think it has an entire course on it..
But it's a pre-requisite for so many other classes like Advanced Engineering Math and Electrical Network Analysis so theres no way I can get around it =/

I'm doubling in CS/General math.  Differential equations isn't required for either of the majors and I intend to avoid it if it's at all possible.  It might ruin my intention to have a physics minor.

Diff eq generally isn't a useful subject in software engineering, but it's vitally important in just about every other form of engineering commonly taught at university.  The curriculum would be silly if it didn't require engineering majors of the mechanical, electrical, civil, areonautical, et. al flavors.  Software engineering doesn't really involve the same types of analysis that the other types do.

I don't like engineering math courses because they're tedious (just a bunch of memorization and computation) and I don't really see the element of problem solving / critical thought that's there in other math courses I've taken.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Falcon on November 13, 2008, 05:59:53 pm
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Switched Prof and Tech. Communication with Linear Algebra so my classes wouldn't all be clumped together. That way I can have time in between to study or something. So double the fun -_-
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: dark_drake on November 14, 2008, 04:45:17 pm
Chemical engineering programs are gearing more and more toward the biological end of things. It's really just taking principles learned in chemical engineering courses and applying them to living systems. :D
Only at your school. :P Check out my UofM's Chemical Engineering program (http://www.cems.umn.edu/downloads/ug/ChEn/typ_plan_post_2011.pdf)
I'd have to see more of your electives, but I see a biomolecular engineering course as a required course. It's an elective here.  Other than that, the curricula look very similar.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Rule on November 14, 2008, 11:10:01 pm
Sidoh, I'd definitely take DEs and PDEs if I were you.  First of all, they are extremely easy courses (at least at the undergraduate level, in most cases).  So they shouldn't require very much of your time.  Secondly, they are extremely important.  They show up everywhere (including many areas of computer science), because they obviously describe so many situations.

The calculus you learned was also, most likely, geared towards application and away from abstraction and generality.  But I assume you still liked aspects of the courses, and found them useful.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Explicit on November 15, 2008, 06:21:25 am
I don't like engineering math courses because they're tedious (just a bunch of memorization and computation) ...

QFT.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Towelie on December 02, 2008, 03:30:56 pm
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Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on December 02, 2008, 05:44:30 pm
Sidoh, I'd definitely take DEs and PDEs if I were you.  First of all, they are extremely easy courses (at least at the undergraduate level, in most cases).  So they shouldn't require very much of your time.  Secondly, they are extremely important.  They show up everywhere (including many areas of computer science), because they obviously describe so many situations.

The calculus you learned was also, most likely, geared towards application and away from abstraction and generality.  But I assume you still liked aspects of the courses, and found them useful.

I guess I'll take it if I find the time.  As I'm nearing the end of my undergraduate tenure, though, I'm realizing I have less and less free credits floating around.  I could take more than the maximum, I'm sure, but 18 credits with most of them being "upper divisional" has been pretty hectic this semester.  I'd really love to take some of the more advanced physics courses (quantum mechanics, for example), but they, of course, require DE.  We'll see what I'm able to squeeze in, I guess.  I'm already filled up this semester.

Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2008, 07:54:31 pm
My semester just got a lot more interesting.

I learned that the first semester of graduate-level AI won't be offered next year.  It's a class that I'd really like to take, so I ended up dropping software engineering.  New schedule:

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/49612/Schedule_FA08.png)

I like the times better, honestly.  It'll be nice to have lunch at a consistent time.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: dark_drake on December 11, 2008, 12:55:40 pm
My semester just got a lot more interesting.

I learned that the first semester of graduate-level AI won't be offered next year.  It's a class that I'd really like to take, so I ended up dropping software engineering.  New schedule:

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/49612/Schedule_FA08.png)

I like the times better, honestly.  It'll be nice to have lunch at a consistent time.
Needs more 8:00 AM classes.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Camel on December 11, 2008, 01:20:14 pm
I learned that the first semester of graduate-level AI won't be offered next year.  It's a class that I'd really like to take, so I ended up dropping software engineering.

AI is an awesome subject. I wasn't able to take it (for similar reasons), but I had a couple of friends that got in, and I actually ended up sitting in on most of their classes!
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on December 13, 2008, 01:45:08 pm
Needs more 8:00 AM classes.

Screw that man!  I'm rather disappointed at the 9:30!  I started at 11:00 on TR this semester.  It was pretty nice.

I learned that the first semester of graduate-level AI won't be offered next year.  It's a class that I'd really like to take, so I ended up dropping software engineering.

AI is an awesome subject. I wasn't able to take it (for similar reasons), but I had a couple of friends that got in, and I actually ended up sitting in on most of their classes!

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the course.  I took "CS 440" this semester, which is the precursor to this.  I had quite a bit of fun with it.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: rabbit on December 13, 2008, 01:58:39 pm
I'm taking Sys Arch 2 and Mythology next quarter...and...I'm not sure what else yet.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on December 13, 2008, 02:44:53 pm
I'm taking Sys Arch 2 and Mythology next quarter...and...I'm not sure what else yet.

Haha, I'm glad someone liked that class.  I couldn't stand it. >_<

Well, I guess I thought it was neat.  It's cool to see how everything works "under the hood", but it seems that it lacks the profound conclusions that I'm used to from other subjects.  It's definitely something that's entirely necessary for computers to be at all useful, though.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: rabbit on December 13, 2008, 03:58:04 pm
I'm taking Sys Arch 2 and Mythology next quarter...and...I'm not sure what else yet.

Haha, I'm glad someone liked that class.  I couldn't stand it. >_<

Well, I guess I thought it was neat.  It's cool to see how everything works "under the hood", but it seems that it lacks the profound conclusions that I'm used to from other subjects.  It's definitely something that's entirely necessary for computers to be at all useful, though.
I liked it because we actually did some stuff with it.  Specifically, we wrote 32-bit MIPS CPUs (sadly, only single cycle :\) in VHDL and tinkered with them.  Our professor also played Pac-Man and Space Invaders on a FPGA with a CPU (multi because he could) he wrote in VHDL.  Sys Arch 2 is gonna be more of that sort of thing.  :)

I won't lie, though....it was really hard.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on December 13, 2008, 04:15:05 pm
Yeah, that's cool.  Sounds like fun.

I think the hardest thing for me about that sort of area in CS is it's the memorization of a ton of little details.  It's harder to have a hierarchical understanding of the subject than, say, algorithms.
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: rabbit on December 13, 2008, 06:38:32 pm
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2318/schedulewq3.png)

For now.....
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: Sidoh on December 13, 2008, 06:39:30 pm
Jesus that's a late class.

What's Math 312?
Title: Re: Post your schedule -- SP2009
Post by: rabbit on December 13, 2008, 09:03:22 pm
That would be prob/stat 2, which, judging from prob/stat 1 being probability, will be mostly statistics.