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Title: Control
Post by: AntiVirus on August 07, 2006, 01:05:35 am
Are we in control of ourselves? 
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Newby on August 07, 2006, 01:42:04 am
Yes.

Watch me type "joe sucks" in large golden bold caps.

JOE SUCKS

Now how am I not in control of myself?
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Ergot on August 07, 2006, 03:38:35 am
<stupidity>
However, if you look at it... Antivirus made you post something that would prove that you were in control, so therefore he had control over you!
</stupidity>
Title: Re: Control
Post by: AntiVirus on August 07, 2006, 03:41:37 am
I mean over yourself, not necessarly just your actions.

Wouldn't a headache show a lack of control?  If you have a headache, shouldn't you beable to control that and get it to stop?  That's just one of many examples, but seriously..  Are we or are we not in control of ourselves?  Is the control we think we have just a show or is it the real thing?
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Kaleeko on August 07, 2006, 04:03:45 am
To a certain extent? Yes. There are some people that can control their bodies in incredibly strange ways that don't make a lot of sense.

For instance, my doctor told me that I have some sort of condition where I am incredibly more aware of my body than most people. I don't have great reflexes because my body is almost completely under my concious control. I can make myself sick in less than an hour, can make an area of my body hurt just by thinking about it, and a number of other things that are just *odd*. Getting things to go away is another thing entirely. If I could do that, then I'd actually consider it something to brag about. It's not, though. It makes health conditions seem and feel much worse than they are.

So, it's probably a good thing that most people aren't in control. Frankly, our concious brain just can't handle a lot of what our subconcious deals with. Do you want to control your heartbeat? That would suck, because the second you start playing around with it, you could easily kill yourself.

I'm just talking in terms of physical.. stuff. Lovely word, stuff.
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Ergot on August 07, 2006, 01:12:00 pm
Do you want to control your heartbeat? That would suck, because the second you start playing around with it, you could easily kill yourself.

Not to mention it would suck to have to think "beat" "beat" every like 2 seconds :/.
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Towelie on August 07, 2006, 01:30:25 pm
balls
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Newby on August 07, 2006, 02:53:09 pm
Your brain is a part of you. It controls you. Therefore, you are controlling yourself.

Sure, you can't direct how it works, but it's still under your control. Proof: when your brain ceases to function, you no longer have control over organs it controlled.
Title: Re: Control
Post by: d&q on August 07, 2006, 03:33:25 pm
balls

lol
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Sidoh on August 07, 2006, 10:31:34 pm
balls

ROFL
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Towelie on August 07, 2006, 10:34:23 pm
Does addiction to self-pleasing actions count as being out of control? ahem :)
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Rule on August 08, 2006, 04:41:06 am
Intuitive response:  We are in control of some things while other things are out of our control.

Probable truth: We are in control of absolutely nothing.  There is no separation between our mind and some intangible entity.  The only choice you are going to make is the one you are going to make; free will is an illusion and the world is likely deterministic.  I suppose that's an incredibly brief summary of a 20-30 page response I have in my head somewhere.  :P

Title: Re: Control
Post by: Joe on August 08, 2006, 08:04:54 am
Well, coming from the guy who still believes in mind over matter, and that the magic performed by the sorcerers in the books of Moses still exists today, yes, if you know how to control yourself. Most people simply don't know. Ever concentrated on making your head stop hurting when you had a headache? Try it sometime, it works.
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Joe on August 08, 2006, 08:06:57 am
balls

Is that a reference to you thinking of "beat beat"-ing your penis every two seconds? :)
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Towelie on August 08, 2006, 12:20:22 pm
balls

Is that a reference to you thinking of "beat beat"-ing your penis every two seconds? :)
that was me coming onto here, and then typing balls for no reason at all
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Sidoh on August 08, 2006, 04:16:33 pm
We are in control of absolutely nothing.  There is no separation between our mind and some intangible entity.  The only choice you are going to make is the one you are going to make; free will is an illusion and the world is likely deterministic.  I suppose that's an incredibly brief summary of a 20-30 page response I have in my head somewhere.  :P

I agree with that.
Title: Re: Control
Post by: AntiVirus on August 08, 2006, 06:37:05 pm
I too agree with what Rule has said.

But there are some of us (Newby) that don't agree.  :P
Title: Re: Control
Post by: Sidoh on August 09, 2006, 01:15:31 am
But there are some of us (Newby) that don't agree.  :P

Newby believes in free will?  That sort of surprises me. :o
Title: Re: Control
Post by: sushi on August 12, 2006, 07:11:25 pm
<stupidity>
However, if you look at it... Antivirus made you post something that would prove that you were in control, so therefore he had control over you!
</stupidity>
Newby made this forum so people like you post on it so he's in control of us all!!!!
Title: Re: Control
Post by: sushi on August 12, 2006, 07:13:59 pm
What if some one could choose to kill you? would he control you to the fact that you don't wanna die? ever read the book 1984 . Taht brings up questions on control
Title: Re: Control
Post by: rabbit on August 12, 2006, 07:42:17 pm
1984 is happening now.

Also, see the Edit button.