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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: drka on April 09, 2005, 06:45:40 pm

Title: Linux
Post by: drka on April 09, 2005, 06:45:40 pm
someone move this if needed. anyways if i install Linux on my windows xp HP comp, will it fuck it up?
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Quik on April 09, 2005, 06:48:34 pm
If you install Linux on your Windows partition, then yes it will "fuck it up", unless you consider Linux to be a better operating system. Then, it will make it better.

I suggest learning *alot* more about this stuff before you jump in.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: GameSnake on April 09, 2005, 08:14:18 pm
As quick said, not unless you're overwriting your Windows HD space, if you'd like to try Linux out and get a feel for it, then I suggest a "Live CD", it lets you try Linux without overwriting anything, it runs off the disk. If you don't know the Linux installing procedures, inform us/me, we/me can basically walk you through.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Joe on April 09, 2005, 09:25:25 pm
Yes. I'd say go with the Live CD also. My computer was already fucked up, and I'd used Linux on iago's computer, so I just repartitioned and hopped right in, but I'd consider myself a special case.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: drka on April 09, 2005, 11:33:45 pm
well my friend back at Bulgaria has a Windows XP and 2000 on 1 computer and he gets to choose which to use just before the boot skin appears. does it work like that for linux too?
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Joe on April 10, 2005, 01:00:18 am
It works *exactly* like that. Steps to set it up like that:

1) Partition HD. I suggest a 10/9/1 ratio, 10 being Windows, 9 Being Linux, and 1 being Linux Swap (type 82)
2) Install Windows, yadayada, ignore bad partitions.
3) Install Linux. Slackware installer will give you the option to install "LILO". Pick the MBR (master boot record).

Please note that installing LILO in the boot sector "could be dangerous", but we're asuming you have nothing important you can lose, as you just repartitioned your hard drive. If you do, you'd be best tossing it on a floppy disk (doesn't always work right, meh.)

Then, when you start your computer, LILO, in its wonderful black and redness, asks you to boot into Windows or Linux. (pick one).
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Warrior on April 10, 2005, 01:03:58 am
I use GRUB, sexier than LILO
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Joe on April 10, 2005, 01:31:04 am
I use yaboot, but I know that hes probably going to use Slackware, so I suggest using whats available (LILO).
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Ergot on April 10, 2005, 04:36:51 am
Grub looks pretty cool, at least for Red Hat, but my LILO look awesome :]
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: drka on April 10, 2005, 05:52:46 am
haha i have no windows cd. i bought my comp online :). if i accually get another comp, ima run Linux on it. i have a really messed up one. it runs at 333mhz and it is sooooooooooooo slow. its also broken from everywhere. well not really but for all i know, the hard drive could be messed up.

edit:wait a sec. i have 2 more comps that my dad brought in. i dunno the specifications but they dont reach 1ghz. also anyone know how to bypass the Windows 2000 login screen? one of those comps has that and i cant get through it. i have to provide a password which is unknown to me :(. and that comp also has a DVD player :). not sure if its writable or not :P.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: rabbit on April 10, 2005, 01:13:04 pm
haha i have no windows cd. i bought my comp online :). if i accually get another comp, ima run Linux on it. i have a really messed up one. it runs at 333mhz and it is sooooooooooooo slow. its also broken from everywhere. well not really but for all i know, the hard drive could be messed up.

edit:wait a sec. i have 2 more comps that my dad brought in. i dunno the specifications but they dont reach 1ghz. also anyone know how to bypass the Windows 2000 login screen? one of those comps has that and i cant get through it. i have to provide a password which is unknown to me :(. and that comp also has a DVD player :). not sure if its writable or not :P.
Press "cancel".  You can also just boot to DOS with a boot disk.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: drka on April 11, 2005, 01:35:47 am
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and you think you are smart. the Cancel isnt available for clicking. the letters are, ummmm how can i say this. Passive.  means that the cancel button cant be clicked :P.

edit:wtf is a boot disc? and does Windows 2000 even have DOS? i know XP doesnt.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Quik on April 11, 2005, 01:47:54 am
IT DOESN'T?!?!
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: deadly7 on April 11, 2005, 07:46:45 pm
Quote
edit:wtf is a boot disc? and does Windows 2000 even have DOS? i know XP doesnt.

You my friend have proved how "Uber Gosu" (see member title/rank/whateverthefuckitis) you are.

Start - Run - "cmd" - Enter
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: drka on April 11, 2005, 08:13:11 pm
IF you dont know shit. THEN DONT FUCKING POST. he means boot into DOS. do you know what boot means? no so stfu. and i already said i cant gain access without providing an unknown password.

@Topic:well i dunno how to get a DOS disc. also ummm if u accualy gain access to the password(which i wont), there should be an option to boot into DOS with the next restart :).
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Quik on April 11, 2005, 09:16:25 pm
Uhh, while you're booting, hit one of the keys (different from computer to computer) [usually F2, F10, DEL, or sometimes spacebar] to get into the "SafeMode" screen. You'll have an option to boot into DOS, Safemode without Internet, etc.

Please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about, and it's generally a bad idea to flame members.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Ergot on April 11, 2005, 09:56:11 pm
Quik those look like keys to enter BIOS. I think it's F8
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Warrior on April 11, 2005, 09:58:06 pm
Just reformat the Box with Nix, christ.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Quik on April 11, 2005, 10:16:46 pm
Quik those look like keys to enter BIOS. I think it's F8

Sometimes, they take you into BIOS, sometimes they take you into the SafeMode screen, it really depends on the computer.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: deadly7 on April 11, 2005, 10:38:49 pm
For me, f1 = dos f7=boot screen

@Quik: Huzzah, I can now use my GWBasic book!

@Mangix: Well, I don't read the whole thread. And i'm sorry, but if you say that Windows has no DOS, i'm obviously going to tell you C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe because you apparently can't be clear, or are just stupid in your posts.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: iago on April 11, 2005, 10:42:52 pm
For me, f1 = dos f7=boot screen

@Quik: Huzzah, I can now use my GWBasic book!

@Mangix: Well, I don't read the whole thread. And i'm sorry, but if you say that Windows has no DOS, i'm obviously going to tell you C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe because you apparently can't be clear, or are just stupid in your posts.

cmd.exe is not DOS.  DOS is an operating system, and so is Windows.  cmd.exe is a command interpreter that uses the same style of commands as DOS did.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Quik on April 11, 2005, 11:51:51 pm
Known as "Command Prompt".
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: drka on April 12, 2005, 03:41:14 am
in Windows 2000 and below, the command prompt is known as MS-DOS. so he got confused :P. anyways ima see what i can do tomorrow :D.
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: Ergot on April 12, 2005, 12:01:48 pm
XP = cmd.exe
95/98 = command.com

I'm not sure about the rest, I don't want to make false statements. But there is a difference. You can't wine command.com :P
Title: Re: Linux
Post by: deadly7 on April 12, 2005, 11:32:43 pm
The icons say "MSDOS.exe"

@mangix: sorry about the flaming, i hate it when stupid tables don't work the way i want em to.

erm, pre-post edit: nvm, It's the actual DOS operating system that says that.