The day when SUV-driving trash-making non-recycling meat-eating people can stop and pretend they care about the Earth (and even believe themselves!), while still continuing their normal habits. Woo!
Wiki info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day)
Thanks Crazed.
Quote from: Chavo on April 22, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
Thanks Crazed.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I rofl'd my pants off
Quote from: iago on April 22, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
The day when SUV-driving trash-making non-recycling meat-eating people can stop and pretend they care about the Earth (and even believe themselves!), while still continuing their normal habits. Woo!
Wiki info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day)
this just in, eating meat is linked to global warming.
Quote from: iago on April 22, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
meat-eating people
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.... whoa..... whoa.
So now that you've been a vegan for what, like, 5 months, you can suddenly have a high horse about meat eating folk?
Are sharks evil too? They eat meat.
Quote from: MyndFyre on April 23, 2008, 01:15:30 AM
Are sharks evil too? They eat meat.
Fuck yeah, they're evil. Have you ever seen Jaws? Anyway, what iago is saying is that because so many people want to eat meat, the demand is really high, too. Cows produce a ton of methane, which is actually a horrible greenhouse gas. Also, it takes much more energy to produce a pound of meat over a pound of plants that taste okay. Cows are just too delicious to not eat!
Quote from: iago on April 22, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
The day when SUV-driving trash-making non-recycling meat-eating people can stop and pretend they care about the Earth (and even believe themselves!), while still continuing their normal habits. Woo!
Wiki info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day)
I ate a delicious cheeseburger, a cream cheese bagel and washed it down with a chocolate milk for Earth Day.
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Quote from: Sidoh on April 23, 2008, 01:31:55 AM
I ate a delicious cheeseburger, a cream cheese bagel and washed it down with a chocolate milk for Earth Day.
Oh yeah? I threw my collection of old newspapers in a normal garbage bin. I also made yogurt using normal milk AND dehydrated milk AND some yogurt.
When the hell was Earth Day?
Quote from: MyndFyre on April 23, 2008, 01:15:30 AM
Quote from: iago on April 22, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
meat-eating people
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.... whoa..... whoa.
So now that you've been a vegan for what, like, 5 months, you can suddenly have a high horse about meat eating folk?
Are sharks evil too? They eat meat.
8 months. But why's it matter? I made a major lifestyle change based on my beliefs. I wouldn't call it being on a "high horse", I'd call it "pointing out a fact".
It's farming livestock that's bad for the environment, not meat eating itself. But eating meat from farms is pretty much a given. Sharks rarely farm their food. :P
Quote from: rabbit on April 23, 2008, 08:12:52 AM
When the hell was Earth Day?
Yesterday, when I posted this. :P
I don't believe you! Gas prices went up again ($3.14 to $3.28), so obviously it was AntiEarth Day, at the least (or maybe it was just Monday).
Quote from: rabbit on April 23, 2008, 08:18:07 AM
I don't believe you! Gas prices went up again ($3.14 to $3.28), so obviously it was AntiEarth Day, at the least (or maybe it was just Monday).
Well, cars are bad for the Earth, so higher gas prices are good for the earth. It makes sense!
And incidentally, gas passed $5/gal a couple weeks ago. :-o
Quote from: iago on April 23, 2008, 08:14:54 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre on April 23, 2008, 01:15:30 AM
Quote from: iago on April 22, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
meat-eating people
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.... whoa..... whoa.
So now that you've been a vegan for what, like, 5 months, you can suddenly have a high horse about meat eating folk?
Are sharks evil too? They eat meat.
8 months. But why's it matter? I made a major lifestyle change based on my beliefs. I wouldn't call it being on a "high horse", I'd call it "pointing out a fact".
It's farming livestock that's bad for the environment, not meat eating itself. But eating meat from farms is pretty much a given. Sharks rarely farm their food. :P
Then they didnt you mention the people that use plastic (you), the people that use electricity (you), and the people that use anything not produced by their neighbor (you)? ;)
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 09:45:27 AM
Then they didnt you mention the people that use plastic (you), the people that use electricity (you), and the people that use anything not produced by their neighbor (you)? ;)
It's all about cutting down and making strides. When possible, I don't use plastic and I recycle what I do use. I try not to use electricity (I replaced all my lights with energy-saver bulbs, even though I don't pay for electricity), plus, my city has relatively clean electricity (hydro). And finally, I buy locally grown produce/products when I can.
I do my best to live cleanly.
Energy saver bulbs? Those spirally fluorescent ones? Yeah, so you're saving some energy but endangering everyone with mercury. Cool.
"endangering everybody with mercury" -- that's if you don't dispose of them properly.
Do you call a hazmat team when they break, too?
I haven't broken a lightbulb in my life (that wasn't intentional).
iago, you're hurting our chances of survival. You need to be releasing more greenhouse gases (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-5013480,00.html).
pfft, that's an Australian news site. We all know that everything is the opposite there!
<edit> and also, it's not just the greenhouse gas emissions that the meat industry releases -- it also takes a hell of a lot more land than fruit/vegetables, and also the disposal of the waste. :P
I connected with nature yesterday.
Quote from: Trust on April 23, 2008, 12:34:58 PM
I connected with nature yesterday.
Sex with a tree?
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 10:03:48 AM
Energy saver bulbs? Those spirally fluorescent ones? Yeah, so you're saving some energy but endangering everyone with mercury. Cool.
My father, who's an analytical chemist, told me that the really only dangerous or toxic form of mercury was what fish digested. He told me the reason, I will try to get it exactly how he said..
He said that the mercury fish digest broke down a little, and bonded with a sulfate in the fishes stomach. He said that mercury sulfate has a low LD50, and that you don't only have to digest it to die, you can also inhale it.
He said other that that type of mercury, it's not too bad.
Quote from: Super_X on April 23, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 10:03:48 AM
Energy saver bulbs? Those spirally fluorescent ones? Yeah, so you're saving some energy but endangering everyone with mercury. Cool.
My father, who's an analytical chemist, told me that the really only dangerous or toxic form of mercury was what fish digested. He told me the reason, I will try to get it exactly how he said..
He said that the mercury fish digest broke down a little, and bonded with a sulfate in the fishes stomach. He said that mercury sulfate has a low LD50, and that you don't only have to digest it to die, you can also inhale it.
He said other that that type of mercury, it's not too bad.
I dunno, MSNBC has an article that says one bulb can contaminate 6000 gallons of water.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23694819/
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 05:13:47 PM
I dunno, MSNBC has an article that says one bulb can contaminate 6000 gallons of water.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23694819/
I'm glad you trust MSNBC for all of your science news.
Quote from: deadly7 on April 23, 2008, 05:34:56 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 05:13:47 PM
I dunno, MSNBC has an article that says one bulb can contaminate 6000 gallons of water.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23694819/
I'm glad you trust MSNBC for all of your science news.
Let's weigh the options.
Guy on the Internet vs. MSNBC ... hmmm. MSNBC ftw
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on April 23, 2008, 05:34:56 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 05:13:47 PM
I dunno, MSNBC has an article that says one bulb can contaminate 6000 gallons of water.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23694819/
I'm glad you trust MSNBC for all of your science news.
Let's weigh the options.
Guy on the Internet vs. MSNBC ... hmmm. MSNBC ftw
So.. guy on the Internet vs another guy on the Internet? :P
Next you'll be citing TheRegister as a source!
TheOnion is better!
TheRegister is actually real news, though. So maybe TheOnion is a better comparison to MSNBC :)
MSNBC has WAY more credibility than Super
Personally, I'm just making fun. :)
Quote from: CrAz3D on April 23, 2008, 07:25:11 PM
MSNBC has WAY more credibility than Super
Maybe they're a little more credible, but I'm cooler. I wasn't saying it's not bad, I was just saying it's not the worst. I mean, you can look at the LD50 for mercury sulfate versus mercury. I don't really care to, considering I don't want to eat either of them.
Mercuric sulfate: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 57 mg/kg [Rat]. DERMAL (LD50): Acute: 625mg/kg [Rat]
Mercury: The LD50 values in animals for elemental mercury range from 10 to 40 mg/kg (WHO 1976)
That's the best info I could find.. Mercuric sulfate was easy, but I had a lot of trouble finding plain Mercury.
Quote from: Trust on April 23, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: iago on April 23, 2008, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: Trust on April 23, 2008, 12:34:58 PM
I connected with nature yesterday.
Sex with a tree?
yes
I see you were foolish enough to take a video of it (http://wallout.com/Caveman/lsd_alcohol/viagra2.gif), too!
From here (http://wallout.com/lsd_vs_alcohol_vs_tree)
Quote from: iago on April 24, 2008, 09:01:51 AM
Mercuric sulfate: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 57 mg/kg [Rat]. DERMAL (LD50): Acute: 625mg/kg [Rat]
Mercury: The LD50 values in animals for elemental mercury range from 10 to 40 mg/kg (WHO 1976)
That's the best info I could find.. Mercuric sulfate was easy, but I had a lot of trouble finding plain Mercury.
Dimethyl mercury (or any other organic mercury) beats those two any day. It takes a drop or so on exposed skin to kill a person.