http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080611_Camden_school_officials_apologize_for_punishment.html
How DARE that principal make them eat off the floor!! That's disgusting!
Oh, wait, eat while SITTING on the floor? WTF is the problem then!?
I've sat eating in dirtier places. Hell, I've probably eaten OFF of dirtier places (exaggeration, but still). Stupid over-reactive parents.
That's actually pretty digusting. Not only what they had to do, but your lack of sympathy towards them.
How is that an effective form of punishment whatsoever? All it does is increase their risk of getting sick, especially if it's in the gym.
If I sent my kid to a school I wouldn't expect them to end up eating food off the floor.
The parents have every right to be outraged. Perhaps they overreacted a bit, yes, but I'd be mad as hell too.
PS: Can you please give the topics objective names?
looks like they just sat on the gym floor and ate
im with craz3d on this one
Quote from: Warrior on June 12, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
looks like they just sat on the gym floor and ate
im with craz3d on this one
The "without food trays" (meaning food comes off the floor) part is what makes me metaphorically squirm. If their gym floor is anything like my high school's gym floor... ick.
The part that makes me queasiest is
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Quote from: Newby on June 12, 2008, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: Warrior on June 12, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
looks like they just sat on the gym floor and ate
im with craz3d on this one
The "without food trays" (meaning food comes off the floor) part is what makes me metaphorically squirm. If their gym floor is anything like my high school's gym floor... ick.
ew missed that detail
Quote from: Newby on June 12, 2008, 05:02:34 PM
PS: Can you please give the topics objective names?
No. He's Cr4z3d. And Republican.
Quote from: Newby on June 12, 2008, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: Warrior on June 12, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
looks like they just sat on the gym floor and ate
im with craz3d on this one
The "without food trays" (meaning food comes off the floor) part is what makes me metaphorically squirm. If their gym floor is anything like my high school's gym floor... ick.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THEY HAD TO SET THEIR PLATE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!? OMGZ0R!
They could still just keep their plate in their hand and place the drink cup on the ground ::).
Seriously, one of the most fail articles I've ever read. No details as to what really happened. All the information in the article could have been summed up to "The school apologizes for punishing kids for breaking a chair and spilling water, and they don't accept the apology." It really doesn't say anything about how they were punished or why they feel that punishment is unjust.
It would be different case if it wasn't used as a PUNISHMENT. But the fact that it was used to punish the kids, makes it feel wrong.
Wtf? That's a punishment? That's how my middle school (Grades 7-8) was normally. :\
They seriously made you all eat on the floor with no trays? Wouldn't that be against some sort of health code?
Quote from: leet_muffin on June 12, 2008, 08:11:51 PMIt really doesn't say anything about how they were punished
There 'punishment' was being forced to eat on the gym floor w/o trays. Whoop de fucking do. I used to do the eqivelent all the time.
Quote from: Michael on June 12, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
It would be different case if it wasn't used as a PUNISHMENT. But the fact that it was used to punish the kids, makes it feel wrong.
We have a winner.
Quote from: Sidoh on June 12, 2008, 08:43:37 PM
They seriously made you all eat on the floor with no trays? Wouldn't that be against some sort of health code?
There probably is. I hated my middle school. :(
Quote from: HdxBmx27 on June 12, 2008, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on June 12, 2008, 08:11:51 PMIt really doesn't say anything about how they were punished
There 'punishment' was being forced to eat on the gym floor w/o trays. Whoop de fucking do. I used to do the eqivelent all the time.
If that's the case, why does this article even exist?
w/o trays, it doesnt say the kids ate the FOOD off the FLOOR. HUGE diff there
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 13, 2008, 02:17:55 AM
w/o trays, it doesnt say the kids ate the FOOD off the FLOOR. HUGE diff there
Exactly, what I'm saying is that they never described the punishment. We don't know if they were forced to lick the gym floor or have an uncomfortable lunch.
Quote from: leet_muffin on June 13, 2008, 02:48:13 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 13, 2008, 02:17:55 AM
w/o trays, it doesnt say the kids ate the FOOD off the FLOOR. HUGE diff there
Exactly, what I'm saying is that they never described the punishment. We don't know if they were forced to lick the gym floor or have an uncomfortable lunch.
I have doubts the article would exist if they were forced to sit uncomfortably.
So was the food, like, literally on the floor? Or was there a plate between the food and the floor? Because that detail makes a pretty huge difference..
And what does anything have to do with "snow-flakes"? That confused the hell out of me, I thought they were eating snow flakes off the floor or something..
CAMDEN
"Snow-flakes" as a pet name for the children.
I think that it's stupid to get mad at the schools for punishing the students, soon there will be no way to tell the kids that they are breaking the rules at all. It's dumb, the teachers are already put in a hard place with out trouble making kids, then, to add the trouble making parents on top of that equation's to much for the school systems.
Quote from: Super_X on June 14, 2008, 06:13:43 AM
"Snow-flakes" as a pet name for the children.
I think that it's stupid to get mad at the schools for punishing the students, soon there will be no way to tell the kids that they are breaking the rules at all. It's dumb, the teachers are already put in a hard place with out trouble making kids, then, to add the trouble making parents on top of that equation's to much for the school systems.
Take away their recess, send them to the principals office, but don't purposefully risk their health. That's just dumb.
The only thing kids learn about punishment is how to not get caught. Extrinsic motivation doesn't work.
(But I don't want to get into this again :) )
I'd like a littler more info on what they did wrong. The article leaves it open to interpretation about whether the kids were really out of line. I like to imagine that one fat kid was sitting in a chair that couldn't support him, and when it buckled under his weight, it caught him off guard and caused him to spill the water he was holding. The other nine kids were punished for witnessing it.
Obviously it's a pretty unlikely story, but it appears that the reporter didn't even attempt to get any the important details. It's all he-said, she-said.