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Title: Hahahaha
Post by: while1 on June 12, 2008, 11:30:36 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png)

I found it hilarious... but was a bit disappointed a computer scientist wasn't in there.  Where would you say they'd would go?  Definitely after the mathematician... but does Physics or CS fit the applied math more would you say?
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: Sidoh on June 12, 2008, 11:49:44 PM
It'd go before the mathematician, if you're going from right to left (which is how I'd expect most people would :P).

However, it doesn't make sense to say chemistry is applied computer science, but it makes total sense to say chemistry is applied physics.  If it were in there, it'd have to be another branch.

Oh well, math is the coolest anyway!
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: trust on June 13, 2008, 02:52:52 AM
fuck math
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: Blaze on June 13, 2008, 03:03:43 AM
Haha, I loved that one.  :)
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: Newby on June 13, 2008, 03:13:36 AM
Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation.

Bitches. Glad I'm a physics major! :P
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: Sidoh on June 13, 2008, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: Newby on June 13, 2008, 03:13:36 AM
Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation.

Bitches. Glad I'm a physics major! :P

Don't even begin to believe that!  Math is beautiful; physics has more of a tendency to be hacky.  :P
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: CrAz3D on June 13, 2008, 10:13:41 AM
I read this last night.
Title: Re: Hahahaha
Post by: Rule on June 13, 2008, 11:57:39 AM
Quote from: Newby on June 13, 2008, 03:13:36 AM
Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation.

Bitches. Glad I'm a physics major! :P

Haha, but now you're going the other direction, which doesn't do well for physics.  "Chemistry is to physics as sex is to masturbation..." etc.

In defense of physics, I would say many theorists, especially string theorists, have a greater aptitude in large areas of mathematics than most mathematicians who specialize in those fields; their understanding is comparable -- they can speak the language -- and their creativity is often much higher.   But physics is a big field with an increasing number of divisions; two physicists at random are likely to have very different skills.  This may seem obvious, but it isn't true of chemistry, biology, or most fields, in my opinion -- while the people themselves might be quite different, the necessary skill-set to succeed is fairly similar.  Mathematics is really split in two -- applied mathematics and pure mathematics -- and an applied mathematician is generally a different species from a pure mathematician.  What the applied mathematicians do is less pure and less challenging in a mathematical sense than what most theorists in physics do. 

It's the rigour I suppose that really defines modern mathematics as a field, at the higher levels.  Mathematicians have become obsessed with precision and generality.  Most of the mathematics courses one would take in an undergraduate degree is not representative of this -- the justifications for what you learn are not up to rigorous modern standards, but they probably could be used in applied mathematics, or physics, without very much objection.  I'd say that's the main difference between what mathematicians do and what physics theorists do at the highest level; there are situations in physics and applied mathematics where the "main idea" behind a proof is good enough, and the details are not as important.  Of course, that's not always the case.

As far as Michael's question goes, physics is too much of a divided field to really have one answer, and computer science doesn't quite fit onto this scale.  However:  experimentalists would likely go the left of most computer scientists.  On the other hand, physics theorists would go way to the right of most computer scientists.