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Technical (Development, Security, etc.) => General Security Information => Topic started by: Networks on May 08, 2005, 01:38:03 pm

Title: ROFL!
Post by: Networks on May 08, 2005, 01:38:03 pm

Perhaps Linux > Windows!

Description of board: Anything you find which has to do with Linux security issues.

...and this entire board is empty...lol

w00t Linux!

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Newby on May 08, 2005, 01:44:15 pm

Nobody here wants to admit Linux has security issues. Reguardless of how big they are.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: iago on May 08, 2005, 02:10:22 pm

Since this board has been around, I haven't seen any Linux issues worth posting about

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Quik on May 08, 2005, 02:26:58 pm

I've seen some, but none having to do with distros that I know people here run.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: iago on May 08, 2005, 03:23:27 pm

Most vulnerabilities apply to most distros, the only difference is the default software versions.  But anybody with that software is vulnerable.

The only things I've seen lately are DoS attacks on Linux, but that's no fun.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Joe on May 12, 2005, 10:06:03 pm

Joe:
Ubuntu Warty Warthog
Slackware 10.0

iago:
Slackware 10.1

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: iago on May 12, 2005, 10:26:59 pm

The thing is, there are a lot of vulnerabilities in software that runs on Linux, lots of them, but not so much with Linux itself.  Most vulnerabilities are in web-based applications. 

The problem with Windows is that everything is integrated.  A problem with one piece of software is a problem with the entire system.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Warrior on May 13, 2005, 03:22:07 pm

modular != microkernel

afaik Linux still holds up it's monolithic design and Windows apps can be removed =o

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: iago on May 13, 2005, 05:13:45 pm

Explain, please?  99% of the stuff in the Linux kernel can be modules, and you can have a kernel that fits on a floppy.  It's not microkernel, of course, but it shows that it's customizable.  If you don't like Windows' kernel, too bad.

Most stuff on Linux is driven by applications that interface with the Kernel through the kernel libraries.  X-Windows, for instance, is a program, not part of the kernel.  Windows, on the other hand, stronly integrated the GUI, the web browser, and a lot of other software into the kernel, which seems like a very bad idea. 

One thing I thought was funny was when an invalid animated cursor caused a bluescreen (kernel crash).  There is NO way a cursor should be able to crash the kernel.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Warrior on May 13, 2005, 05:34:28 pm

iirc IE can be removed if not completely disabled. The windows GUI is indeed built into the kernel but that is something most monolithic kernels suffer. Drivers can crash the kernel. Fortunately, Linux runs most processes in user space so you can simply resume work after an exception has been handled.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: iago on May 13, 2005, 06:49:55 pm

Check out the article I posted on the Windows Security forum about Microsoft's monopoly.  It talks about the problems with IE being integrated into everything.  It's quite a good article.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Quik on May 13, 2005, 10:16:04 pm

It cannot be completely disabled; or else you would not recieve Window's updates.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: Warrior on May 13, 2005, 10:50:11 pm

Who wants those? I download all I need at setup.

Title: Re: ROFL!
Post by: GameSnake on August 11, 2005, 10:20:41 pm

Then what do you do about the daily Windows patches that are released?

Just admit it, Linux was built with someone's head not in thier ass or on a 8 hr deadline for that matter.