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Title: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: skip on November 24, 2008, 07:57:43 PM
Anyone going to get out there early friday morning for some sweeeeeeeeeeet deals?

I'm thinking about buying myself this baby: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10333897&sourceid=35077370212071960416
$799.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Lead on November 24, 2008, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: skip on November 24, 2008, 07:57:43 PM
Anyone going to get our there early morning for some sweeeeeeeeeeet deals?

I'm thinking about buying myself this baby: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10333897&sourceid=35077370212071960416
$799.

That's one hell of a deal.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: skip on November 24, 2008, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: Lead on November 24, 2008, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: skip on November 24, 2008, 07:57:43 PM
Anyone going to get our there early morning for some sweeeeeeeeeeet deals?

I'm thinking about buying myself this baby: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10333897&sourceid=35077370212071960416
$799.

That's one hell of a deal.

Heck yeah, I'm just not sure if I want a Plasma tv, though.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Hitmen on November 24, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
I'm thinking about not leaving the house.
sanity > deals
Online shopping is win.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Furious on November 24, 2008, 11:19:51 PM
I picked up http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9252004 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9252004) about a week ago, awesome TV.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Super_X on November 25, 2008, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: Furious on November 24, 2008, 11:19:51 PM
I picked up http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9252004 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9252004) about a week ago, awesome TV.
I have that same tv.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: warz on November 25, 2008, 02:43:26 AM
No, I'm white, sorry.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Furious on November 25, 2008, 09:59:50 AM
I wasn't impressed by the picture quality of most of the HDTVs at Wal-mart.  The only ones that stood out were the Sonys and a few of the Vizios.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: rabbit on November 25, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
My friend is going to pick up a 50" TV and sell us his 44" for $400.  We don't have to go anywhere and we save a fuckton of money.  Win.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Camel on November 25, 2008, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: skip on November 24, 2008, 08:13:08 PM
Heck yeah, I'm just not sure if I want a Plasma tv, though.

Generally speaking, plasmas are awesome! Unlike other flat/thinscreen technologies, they tend to be pretty bright, which makes them good for daytime use. Also, colors are (again, generally speaking - there are definitely exceptions) more vibrant than LCD.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: truste1 on November 25, 2008, 01:24:41 PM
plasma are great, except for burn in.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Camel on November 25, 2008, 03:03:03 PM
The newer plasmas (like, everything since the price dropped to the sub-$3000 market) will "burn out" images, even if you do manage to burn in an image. This study said they burned in an image over 48 hours, and after 24 hours of playing a movie on loop the shadow was indistinguishable. http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/pressroom/cont2.asp?Filter=12&cont_id=822

It's still a good idea to change the channel often when the display is new, but realistically it's a non-issue these days.

[edit] also, use gray bars instead of black if you can :)
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: skip on November 25, 2008, 05:10:04 PM
The plasma I'm thinking about buying has "anti-burn technology." But yeah, thanks for the heads up  :).
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: truste1 on November 25, 2008, 06:27:13 PM
Our plasma is pretty new, and has "anti-burn technology" but still gets burn ins. They do burn out, but it's annoying. I like my LCD a lot more.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: skip on November 25, 2008, 10:42:17 PM
It is really that bad? Like is it pretty visible when you're watching something else? Is there like faded colors or like you can actually see the outlines of what was on the screen?
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Rule on November 25, 2008, 11:03:18 PM
I recently bought a 42" Panasonic Plasma.  I haven't noticed any "burn-ins", but I'll look out for it.  I liked the plasmas I saw better than the LCDs.

Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Joe on November 26, 2008, 12:02:13 AM
The Walmart channel should burn in pretty quick. :P
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Camel on November 26, 2008, 01:37:21 AM
Quote from: skip on November 25, 2008, 10:42:17 PM
It is really that bad? Like is it pretty visible when you're watching something else? Is there like faded colors or like you can actually see the outlines of what was on the screen?

Stare directly at the sun for a few seconds, and then look away. What do you see?

Okay, don't actually do it, but the principle is the same.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: truste1 on November 26, 2008, 08:37:26 AM
Quote from: skip on November 25, 2008, 10:42:17 PM
It is really that bad? Like is it pretty visible when you're watching something else? Is there like faded colors or like you can actually see the outlines of what was on the screen?

yeah you can see outlines, for instance on the old xbox live the menus would burn in. I mean it does burn out after a few minutes of watching something else but still, it's a nuisance.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Krazed on November 26, 2008, 09:19:09 AM
Mmmmm, work 4am-4pm black friday. BestBuy ftl.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: deadly7 on November 28, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: Rule on November 25, 2008, 11:03:18 PM
I recently bought a 42" Panasonic Plasma.  I haven't noticed any "burn-ins", but I'll look out for it.  I liked the plasmas I saw better than the LCDs.
We've (my family) had a 52" Pioneer? plasma TV for over a year now (last October 13th) and have yet to see any burn-in... My friends have had plasmas for even longer and have had zero burn-in. What the hell do you guys do with your TVs to burn them in so much?
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: skip on November 28, 2008, 09:54:31 AM
Back. I ended up just getting a smaller LCD screen instead of the plasma I mentioned previously. It's still nice. I didn't realize how big 50" really was, lol. 42" is fine  :).
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Krazed on November 30, 2008, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on November 28, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: Rule on November 25, 2008, 11:03:18 PM
I recently bought a 42" Panasonic Plasma.  I haven't noticed any "burn-ins", but I'll look out for it.  I liked the plasmas I saw better than the LCDs.
We've (my family) had a 52" Pioneer? plasma TV for over a year now (last October 13th) and have yet to see any burn-in... My friends have had plasmas for even longer and have had zero burn-in. What the hell do you guys do with your TVs to burn them in so much?

It's big with gamers, that's honestly about it. The menu's tended to burn in from walking away and doing other things while leaving it open.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: deadly7 on November 30, 2008, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: Krazed on November 30, 2008, 09:04:23 AM
It's big with gamers, that's honestly about it. The menu's tended to burn in from walking away and doing other things while leaving it open.
So then why are they bitching? Stupid user error seems like a piss-poor reason to complain.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: truste1 on November 30, 2008, 06:51:06 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on November 30, 2008, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: Krazed on November 30, 2008, 09:04:23 AM
It's big with gamers, that's honestly about it. The menu's tended to burn in from walking away and doing other things while leaving it open.
So then why are they bitching? Stupid user error seems like a piss-poor reason to complain.

It also occurs with logos in the bottom corner on television stations.
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Hitmen on November 30, 2008, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: truste1 on November 30, 2008, 06:51:06 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on November 30, 2008, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: Krazed on November 30, 2008, 09:04:23 AM
It's big with gamers, that's honestly about it. The menu's tended to burn in from walking away and doing other things while leaving it open.
So then why are they bitching? Stupid user error seems like a piss-poor reason to complain.

It also occurs with logos in the bottom corner on television stations.
God, these are expensive TVs, not the kind of ones you can just let sit on the same TV station. What's wrong with you?
Title: Re: Black Friday anyone?
Post by: Camel on December 01, 2008, 12:44:26 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on November 28, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: Rule on November 25, 2008, 11:03:18 PM
I recently bought a 42" Panasonic Plasma.  I haven't noticed any "burn-ins", but I'll look out for it.  I liked the plasmas I saw better than the LCDs.
We've (my family) had a 52" Pioneer? plasma TV for over a year now (last October 13th) and have yet to see any burn-in... My friends have had plasmas for even longer and have had zero burn-in. What the hell do you guys do with your TVs to burn them in so much?

Generally speaking, they're only vulnerable during the first 100 hours of use. Obviously, there's no magic number for all displays, or even for one display, but the bottom line is that the problem goes away as the phosphors age. Also, as has already been discussed, the newish ones (yours included) burn the images out from normal use (changing channel once in a great while), so the screen won't be ruined even if you do manage to burn in an image.

[edit] also worth noting that even networks that have logos do not display them during commercials, and that is probably enough to keep a screen >100hrs old burn-free.