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Title: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Newby on January 06, 2009, 08:26:46 PM
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2337929,00.asp

Hooray! Sudden outbreak of common sense!
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: BigAznDaddy on January 06, 2009, 08:38:41 PM
woooop
Wait I thought you never used/ hated itunes? Is having a mac changing your view on PC's??!?!
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Warrior on January 06, 2009, 08:39:19 PM
Good. Silly that they charge to strip DRM.

Ps: lolapple
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Warrior on January 06, 2009, 08:49:53 PM
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The Zune Marketplace and other music retailers and subscription services probably saw today's announcement and thought: "Uh oh, the party's over."

Except that prior to this announcement, the Zune Marketplace was 90% DRM Free (as of Zune 3.0) with the most lax subscription service DRM of any player. Granted they have less songs, but it's still something. Prior to this, Apple had the half-hearted offering of DRM Free tracks at a premium (iTunes Plus).

That aside, this is a monumental step forward in destroying DRM. Read between the lines though, they only got this because they allowed the Music Industry to jack up prices on MP3's at their own discretion.
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Sidoh on January 06, 2009, 09:05:13 PM
That's glorious news! :D
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Newby on January 06, 2009, 10:33:37 PM
I'd just like to point out my friend tried purchasing a song just now, and it was in .m4p format (protected .m4a) and that he was unable to create an MP3 version of the song straight from iTunes, because "protected songs cannot be converted to other formats."

:|
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Warrior on January 06, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
It's probably just under a lot of stress / not fully ready yet.
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Sidoh on January 07, 2009, 02:50:12 AM
Quote from: Warrior on January 06, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
It's probably just under a lot of stress / not fully ready yet.

That'd be my guess too. :)
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: MyndFyre on January 07, 2009, 11:21:22 AM
Quote from: Newby on January 06, 2009, 08:26:46 PM
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2337929,00.asp

Hooray! Sudden outbreak of common sense!
I would not be surprised if iTunes-purchased songs are watermarked.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the ones from Amazon are, too.

Anyone know about this?
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Warrior on January 07, 2009, 05:56:21 PM
iTunes DRM'd songs are watermarked. I remember a huge fuss about it a while ago.
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Explicit on January 07, 2009, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: Newby on January 06, 2009, 10:33:37 PM
I'd just like to point out my friend tried purchasing a song just now, and it was in .m4p format (protected .m4a) and that he was unable to create an MP3 version of the song straight from iTunes, because "protected songs cannot be converted to other formats."

:|

I had to download a third-party application (noteburner) in order to convert from .m4p to .mp3. It creates a virtual device that mounts the image as an audio CD (i.e. from the burning feature in iTunes) in order to rip it.
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: MyndFyre on January 08, 2009, 05:34:18 AM
Quote from: Warrior on January 07, 2009, 05:56:21 PM
iTunes DRM'd songs are watermarked. I remember a huge fuss about it a while ago.
What about non-DRM songs?  Is there a way to check?
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Joe on January 08, 2009, 06:27:58 AM
Quote from: TFAWould you think twice about lending a favorite book to a close friend? Of course not, and sharing music shouldn't be any different—and with DRM-free files, you don't even have to worry about whether your friend will return it. [...]

Eliminating DRM is just another example of Apple doing what Apple does best: making life easier for the consumer. The question isn't: "Why did they take so long?" It's: "Why did DRM ever exist in the first place?"

[...] Kudos to Apple—and yes, even the Big Four—for finally coming to their senses and actually trusting the consumer.

Kudos to the Big Four for finally giving up and realizing that TFA says we're going to immediately hand off songs to friends?

Kudos to Apple for making it easier for the customer to steal music, as if we couldn't do it before?

Don't get me wrong, less hacking my behalf makes me a happy man, but TFA seems to be written by people who praise music-stealing.
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: iago on January 08, 2009, 10:03:50 AM
Quote from: Joe on January 08, 2009, 06:27:58 AM
Kudos to the Big Four for finally giving up and realizing that TFA says we're going to immediately hand off songs to friends?

Kudos to Apple for making it easier for the customer to steal music, as if we couldn't do it before?

Don't get me wrong, less hacking my behalf makes me a happy man, but TFA seems to be written by people who praise music-stealing.
Making illegal copies of music isn't stealing, nor is it pirating. It's copyright infringement. At least use the proper terms and not the media's rigged ones.
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Camel on January 08, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: iago on January 08, 2009, 10:03:50 AM
Making illegal copies of music isn't stealing, nor is it pirating. It's copyright infringement. At least use the proper terms and not the media's rigged ones.
I think it still counts as stealing, though not in the traditional sense, and it definitely counts as pirating, since pirating specifically means copyright infringement (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pirated&redirect=no).
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Newby on January 08, 2009, 01:02:53 PM
They'll be un-DRMd by April. That's why some songs are still protected. =P
Title: Re: Apple kills DRM on iTunes Store purchases!
Post by: Hitmen on January 08, 2009, 01:16:03 PM
I like how they turned apple caving in to the tiered pricing model the labels have been pushing for years into a pro apple story.