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Tag the second as NSFW.
I don't find these very funny :P
You seem to really like vigilante justice. Hopefully some day you get shot by somebody who thinks you're trespassing. :)
Personally, I'm a firm believer that risking your life isn't worth the money you save from a robber. I'd rather let a robber get away with it than take a chance that he's armed or capable of fighting back. I mean, really, how much money is your life worth?
Quote from: iago on February 17, 2009, 08:50:25 PM
You seem to really like vigilante justice.
Actually, that was self defense. But you're from Canadia, I wouldnt expect you to understand.
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 18, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
But you're from Canadia, I wouldnt expect you to understand.
Feel like explaining that?
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 18, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: iago on February 17, 2009, 08:50:25 PM
You seem to really like vigilante justice.
Actually, that was self defense. But you're from Canadia, I wouldnt expect you to understand.
What was the person defending themselves against, besides losing money? Their life wasn't being threatened, provided they did what they were told to do.
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 18, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: iago on February 17, 2009, 08:50:25 PM
You seem to really like vigilante justice.
Actually, that was self defense. But you're from Canadia, I wouldnt expect you to understand.
That's subjective.
Also, you're an idiot (and that's quite objective).
Quote from: iago on February 18, 2009, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 18, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: iago on February 17, 2009, 08:50:25 PM
You seem to really like vigilante justice.
Actually, that was self defense. But you're from Canadia, I wouldnt expect you to understand.
What was the person defending themselves against, besides losing money? Their life wasn't being threatened, provided they did what they were told to do.
gun in your face (in america) = imminent danger = self defense when you shoot the SOB
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 18, 2009, 11:21:36 PM
gun in your face (in america) = imminent danger = self defense when you shoot the SOB
It isn't imminent danger, it's probably more dangerous to try and shoot the guy (because then you give him a reason to pull his trigger). If you do what he's asking, you'll lose money but keep your life.
That's armchair QB'ing this.
Gun in your face == imminent danger because you have no idea what he is going to do with that gun. Shooting him, if you have the chance, is your best bet.
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 19, 2009, 11:07:39 AM
That's armchair QB'ing this.
Gun in your face == imminent danger because you have no idea what he is going to do with that gun. Shooting him, if you have the chance, is your best bet.
And what you're saying isn't? I'm going by human nature, not gunlust and revenge.
If somebody has a gun in your face, the _LAST_ thing you want to do is make them feel threatened, scared, anxious, angry, or any of that. Any of those is going to cause imminent danger, as you say. Shooting or trying to shoot them is a great way to make them feel all of those, simultaneously, and basically guarantee that they'll be trying to kill you.
In general, unless somebody is threatened, what motivation is there for them to kill you? They're using a gun as a tool to assist them in whatever they're doing (generally theft). If they can get the stuff and take off, that's their ideal scenario. Why would they want to kill somebody they don't have to? If they do, they know full well that people are going to be trying much harder to find them, and there's probably a hell of a lot more guilt for killing somebody versus stealing their stuff (and don't tell me that petty thieves wouldn't feel remorse for killing somebody -- that's crap, they're people too). Generally, they want to get their stuff and take off. What imminent danger is that, besides potential loss of money?
Remember, he is a republican. Money is more valuable than life!
Quote from: iago on February 19, 2009, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 19, 2009, 11:07:39 AM
That's armchair QB'ing this.
Gun in your face == imminent danger because you have no idea what he is going to do with that gun. Shooting him, if you have the chance, is your best bet.
And what you're saying isn't? I'm going by human nature, not gunlust and revenge.
If somebody has a gun in your face, the _LAST_ thing you want to do is make them feel threatened, scared, anxious, angry, or any of that. Any of those is going to cause imminent danger, as you say. Shooting or trying to shoot them is a great way to make them feel all of those, simultaneously, and basically guarantee that they'll be trying to kill you.
In general, unless somebody is threatened, what motivation is there for them to kill you? They're using a gun as a tool to assist them in whatever they're doing (generally theft). If they can get the stuff and take off, that's their ideal scenario. Why would they want to kill somebody they don't have to? If they do, they know full well that people are going to be trying much harder to find them, and there's probably a hell of a lot more guilt for killing somebody versus stealing their stuff (and don't tell me that petty thieves wouldn't feel remorse for killing somebody -- that's crap, they're people too). Generally, they want to get their stuff and take off. What imminent danger is that, besides potential loss of money?
That goes both ways. A gun in your face is a threat, therefore you have reason to kill them. They initiated the threat. It's already out there on the table. A reasonable and prudent person would take "a gun in the face" as a threat.
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 19, 2009, 04:47:27 PM
Quote from: iago on February 19, 2009, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 19, 2009, 11:07:39 AM
That's armchair QB'ing this.
Gun in your face == imminent danger because you have no idea what he is going to do with that gun. Shooting him, if you have the chance, is your best bet.
And what you're saying isn't? I'm going by human nature, not gunlust and revenge.
If somebody has a gun in your face, the _LAST_ thing you want to do is make them feel threatened, scared, anxious, angry, or any of that. Any of those is going to cause imminent danger, as you say. Shooting or trying to shoot them is a great way to make them feel all of those, simultaneously, and basically guarantee that they'll be trying to kill you.
In general, unless somebody is threatened, what motivation is there for them to kill you? They're using a gun as a tool to assist them in whatever they're doing (generally theft). If they can get the stuff and take off, that's their ideal scenario. Why would they want to kill somebody they don't have to? If they do, they know full well that people are going to be trying much harder to find them, and there's probably a hell of a lot more guilt for killing somebody versus stealing their stuff (and don't tell me that petty thieves wouldn't feel remorse for killing somebody -- that's crap, they're people too). Generally, they want to get their stuff and take off. What imminent danger is that, besides potential loss of money?
That goes both ways. A gun in your face is a threat, therefore you have reason to kill them. They initiated the threat. It's already out there on the table. A reasonable and prudent person would take "a gun in the face" as a threat.
Did you actually read my post, or did you just search for something you could take out of context?
iago, stop wasting your time. CrAz3D is obviously more intelligent than you.
:'(
nope, stopped when I read that phrase.
Figured if your post was ridiculous enough to include that phrase, the rest is probably ridiculous too.
All right, I guess you win, then. I can't possibly argue against somebody who doesn't read my arguments.
If you're actually interested, though, read the rest of my post. I try my best to reason out the situation and the alternatives instead of jumping to an emotional conclusion (as you're generally known to do). You might learn something.
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 19, 2009, 09:38:15 PM
nope, stopped when I read that phrase.
(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3820/fail8bm4.jpg)
He never tried to begin with.
Quote from: Blaze on February 20, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
He never tried to begin with.
He only had to post once to fail that many times.
Quote from: Sidoh on February 20, 2009, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: Blaze on February 20, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
He never tried to begin with.
He only had to post once to fail that many times.
ooooh, epic burn
(http://www.thefullburn.com/img/the-full-burn.jpg)
(I couldnt find a good 'eipc burn' pic)