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Poll
Question: Should I go to Las Vegas for my 21st birthday?
Option 1: Yes votes: 8
Option 2: Mormon/iago option (no) votes: 2
Option 3: MyndFyre is still a hippo votes: 7
Title: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 04, 2009, 12:29:48 PM
Well, my birthday is September 5th. If you don't want to get a calendar out, that's the Saturday of Labor Day weekend. I was back home this weekend, and someone suggested it, and I really can't get it out of my mind.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Quik on August 04, 2009, 12:38:06 PM
You only turn drinking age once, and Vegas is an amazing experience. I say, if the money's available (partying is expensive there), go for it!
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Towelie on August 04, 2009, 12:41:11 PM
If you have the money to blow, I don't see where you could have a better time. I'm probably going to go the summer after I graduate.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Rule on August 04, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: Towelie on August 04, 2009, 12:41:11 PM
If you have the money to blow, I don't see where you could have a better time. I'm probably going to go the summer after I graduate.

I don't know how much a trip to LA costs.... but if it's comparable to like, visiting France/Italy/etc., I'd rather do that. :P
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: MyndFyre on August 04, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
No, because I'll be camping and can't come with!
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 04, 2009, 12:58:21 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on August 04, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
No, because I'll be camping and can't come with!
:'(

Quote from: Rule on August 04, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
I don't know how much a trip to LA costs.... but if it's comparable to like, visiting France/Italy/etc., I'd rather do that. :P
Oh shoot, yeah, I'd love to visit Europe, but it's only a long weekend, and Las Vegas should be fun. And the prices aren't too ridiculous to get to and stay in Las Vegas as it's the off-season.


Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: BigAznDaddy on August 04, 2009, 01:45:08 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on August 04, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
No, because I'll be camping and can't come with!
same here I am going up to Yosemite
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: CrAz3D on August 04, 2009, 04:40:50 PM
I forgot we had the same bday.  Get wasted, make your friends pay for it. 
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Towelie on August 04, 2009, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: Rule on August 04, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: Towelie on August 04, 2009, 12:41:11 PM
If you have the money to blow, I don't see where you could have a better time. I'm probably going to go the summer after I graduate.

I don't know how much a trip to LA costs.... but if it's comparable to like, visiting France/Italy/etc., I'd rather do that. :P

From where? I know from the east coast it isn't too expensive. Probably looking at $200 round trip, maybe less for the time of year you're going
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 09, 2009, 11:28:47 PM
Well, this may have just died a horrible death, but I'll do my best to resuscitate the old plan or make a new one.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Camel on August 10, 2009, 03:48:39 AM
Your 21st is probably the last time you will ever be excited about having a birthday...so if you want to go to vegas, you should go!

That said, I don't think I'd want to go there.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 10, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
Yes, Vegas. That's what I'm planning for mine.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: MyndFyre on August 10, 2009, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 10, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
Yes, Vegas. That's what I'm planning for mine.

Yeah but, you're like, this fuckup....
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Towelie on August 10, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on August 10, 2009, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 10, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
Yes, Vegas. That's what I'm planning for mine.

Yeah but, you're like, this fuckup....
LOL.
post of they day
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 10, 2009, 10:35:53 PM
Haha! I'm going! We found some cheap plane tickets out of a town 3 hours from here. And by cheap, I mean $30 one way. Sidoh, think about it.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 11, 2009, 11:41:21 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre on August 10, 2009, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 10, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
Yes, Vegas. That's what I'm planning for mine.

Yeah but, you're like, this fuckup....

oic
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Chavo on August 11, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
I can't believe yes is beating "MyndFyre is still a hippo"
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: MyndFyre on August 11, 2009, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: Chavo on August 11, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
I can't believe yes is beating "MyndFyre is still a hippo"

MyndFyre won't be a hippo anymore when he works at Blizzard biotch.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 12, 2009, 01:49:00 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre on August 11, 2009, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: Chavo on August 11, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
I can't believe yes is beating "MyndFyre is still a hippo"

MyndFyre won't be a hippo anymore when he works at Blizzard biotch.
Pft... you'll be promoted to full hippopotamus.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 13, 2009, 06:25:01 PM
Welp, the plane tickets are booked. I'm going to Vegas for my birthday!
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 01:30:07 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 13, 2009, 06:25:01 PM
Welp, the plane tickets are booked. I'm going to Vegas for my birthday!
Woo! Make sure you waste a lot of money, because people who waste a ton of money there subsidize my trips to conventions and stuff. :)
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 02:27:22 AM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 01:30:07 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 13, 2009, 06:25:01 PM
Welp, the plane tickets are booked. I'm going to Vegas for my birthday!
Woo! Make sure you waste a lot of money, because people who waste a ton of money there subsidize my trips to conventions and stuff. :)

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Wait... but those are the people subsidizing my trip there... seriously, my plane tickets came out to be ~$110.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Hitmen on August 14, 2009, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 02:27:22 AM
Wait... but those are the people subsidizing my trip there... seriously, my plane tickets came out to be ~$110.
You're subsidizing your own trip. The less you spend on plane tickets, the more you have to lose in the casinos!
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 03:44:26 AM
Quote from: Hitmen on August 14, 2009, 03:32:03 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 02:27:22 AM
Wait... but those are the people subsidizing my trip there... seriously, my plane tickets came out to be ~$110.
You're subsidizing your own trip. The less you spend on plane tickets, the more you have to lose in the casinos!
I was thinking more I had to spend on booze, but casinos are okay, too.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 07:00:36 AM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 01:30:07 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 13, 2009, 06:25:01 PM
Welp, the plane tickets are booked. I'm going to Vegas for my birthday!
Woo! Make sure you waste a lot of money, because people who waste a ton of money there subsidize my trips to conventions and stuff. :)


It's not really a waste of money if he's enjoying himself. It's not only a rite of passage but it will also be an unparalleled life experience.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 10:15:59 AM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 07:00:36 AM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 01:30:07 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 13, 2009, 06:25:01 PM
Welp, the plane tickets are booked. I'm going to Vegas for my birthday!
Woo! Make sure you waste a lot of money, because people who waste a ton of money there subsidize my trips to conventions and stuff. :)


It's not really a waste of money if he's enjoying himself. It's not only a rite of passage but it will also be an unparalleled life experience.

Sure, if that's your thing. It's a waste of money in my mind.

But it's all good! The reason plane tickets are so cheap is because of people who go to Vegas to party. And that's fine with me. Like I said, it subsidizes my trips there. :)
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 10:15:59 AM
Sure, if that's your thing. It's a waste of money in my mind.


Yeah perhaps the happenings that occur in Vegas are not everybody's thing, but the point I'm making is that paying for life experiences that you'll look back on for years to come is not a "waste of money." Each person has a different idea of what experiences count, as we all have different personalities, but for him one of those is Vegas. The point of money is to be able to afford the things that you want to do, the things that make you who you are.

It's all relative, kind of like how MyndFyre thinks I'm a fuckup but probably has no actual reasoning.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: deadly7 on August 14, 2009, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
It's all relative, kind of like how MyndFyre thinks I'm a fuckup but probably has no actual reasoning.
Except for your last 20 years of existence.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on August 14, 2009, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
It's all relative, kind of like how MyndFyre thinks I'm a fuckup but probably has no actual reasoning.
Except for your last 20 years of existence.

Give me details about my life, please.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 01:34:47 PM
First: Who voted no?

Second: Oh em gee... I agree with Trust about something.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 03:06:25 PM
I voted 'no' 'cuz I don't like Vegas. It isn't my thing at all, and if you know me well enough that stand probably isn't surprising. :)

At least I voted 'no' after you decided, though, I didn't want it to affect your decision :D
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
Yeah perhaps the happenings that occur in Vegas are not everybody's thing, but the point I'm making is that paying for life experiences that you'll look back on for years to come is not a "waste of money." Each person has a different idea of what experiences count...
To be fair, I didn't say he was wasting his money by going (I was just there 2 weeks ago :) ), rather, I told him to be sure to waste money. You can fill in what I mean on your own, but I was mostly referring to excessive gambling (or any gambling, really -- gambling = throwing away money).
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Towelie on August 14, 2009, 03:19:14 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
Yeah perhaps the happenings that occur in Vegas are not everybody's thing, but the point I'm making is that paying for life experiences that you'll look back on for years to come is not a "waste of money." Each person has a different idea of what experiences count...
To be fair, I didn't say he was wasting his money by going (I was just there 2 weeks ago :) ), rather, I told him to be sure to waste money. You can fill in what I mean on your own, but I was mostly referring to excessive gambling (or any gambling, really -- gambling = throwing away money).

I like to look at gambling differently. Set a limit before you start, and think of it like this: "I'm paying X$ to have a good time tonight". If you win a decent amount, stop. Otherwise, no loss because you were just paying for a fun night.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: CrAz3D on August 14, 2009, 03:44:16 PM
Gambling is meh.  But getting free drinks?  Awesome.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 03:06:25 PM
I voted 'no' 'cuz I don't like Vegas. It isn't my thing at all, and if you know me well enough that stand probably isn't surprising. :)

At least I voted 'no' after you decided, though, I didn't want it to affect your decision :D

:-*
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: Towelie on August 14, 2009, 03:19:14 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
Yeah perhaps the happenings that occur in Vegas are not everybody's thing, but the point I'm making is that paying for life experiences that you'll look back on for years to come is not a "waste of money." Each person has a different idea of what experiences count...
To be fair, I didn't say he was wasting his money by going (I was just there 2 weeks ago :) ), rather, I told him to be sure to waste money. You can fill in what I mean on your own, but I was mostly referring to excessive gambling (or any gambling, really -- gambling = throwing away money).

I like to look at gambling differently. Set a limit before you start, and think of it like this: "I'm paying X$ to have a good time tonight". If you win a decent amount, stop. Otherwise, no loss because you were just paying for a fun night.

Works for me. I'd rather use that money for something useful. :)
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Works for me. I'd rather use that money for something useful. :)
What about fun? What is fun isn't always useful  :-*
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Works for me. I'd rather use that money for something useful. :)
What about fun? What is fun isn't always useful  :-*
I can have fun for a lot cheaper, and without giving my money to people who don't need/deserve it. :)

I just look at the casinos down the strip and think of how the vast majority of that money wasn't earned, it was just people who wander in and leave all their money. It's a great system (for them)!
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
I can have fun for a lot cheaper, and without giving my money to people who don't need/deserve it. :)

I just look at the casinos down the strip and think of how the vast majority of that money wasn't earned, it was just people who wander in and leave all their money. It's a great system (for them)!
Haha! okay, okay, okay, really, I don't think I'll be gambling that much. Probably more going out with my friends!
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 14, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
I can have fun for a lot cheaper, and without giving my money to people who don't need/deserve it. :)

I just look at the casinos down the strip and think of how the vast majority of that money wasn't earned, it was just people who wander in and leave all their money. It's a great system (for them)!
Haha! okay, okay, okay, really, I don't think I'll be gambling that much. Probably more going out with my friends!
That's cool. It's a cheap place to go to/stay, since the hotels like keeping it cheap for gamblers. As I said, that subsidizes the rest of us. :D
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
Gambling has to be approached from a perspective of having fun, engaging in a game of strategy, pushing your limits of risk, adrenaline rushes when you're putting it all on the line, and the sweet sweet feeling when it pays off. It's like any other game, only it involves money. Consider it a barrier to entry, sort of like running and working out a lot to become a good athlete for other sports. In this case you just need money!! Seriously though, a weekend of it isn't going to hurt anybody as long as he doesn't go betting his life savings.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: iago on August 14, 2009, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: truste1 on August 14, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
Gambling has to be approached from a perspective of having fun, engaging in a game of strategy, pushing your limits of risk, adrenaline rushes when you're putting it all on the line, and the sweet sweet feeling when it pays off. It's like any other game, only it involves money. Consider it a barrier to entry, sort of like running and working out a lot to become a good athlete for other sports. In this case you just need money!! Seriously though, a weekend of it isn't going to hurt anybody as long as he doesn't go betting his life savings.
You make it sound like it's possible to win while gambling -- it really isn't. It's always a downward trend. That's why the companies there can spend billions of dollars building new casinos -- those billions came from somewhere.

In any case, like I said, I think there are better ways to have fun without throwing money away. But whatever. :)
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: truste1 on August 15, 2009, 08:23:36 AM
It is possible to win, but it's not likely. I'd say its better to not approach gambling with the mindset that you're going to win money.
Title: Re: Las Vegas for my 21st?
Post by: Camel on August 28, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: iago on August 14, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
gambling = throwing away money
I play Texas Hold'em, and I'm up over $1000. If you consider how much money I've spent on gas getting to and from the casino, and food bought there, it's probably somewhere around $0.