Clan x86

General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Newby on June 03, 2005, 11:56:57 PM

Title: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Newby on June 03, 2005, 11:56:57 PM
http://www.popandpolitics.com/articles_detail.cfm?articleID=1494

If she wins this case, she could be entitled to literally billions of dollars...
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Quik on June 04, 2005, 12:00:08 AM
This kinda stuff pops up from now and again, it's all a fake. I saw someone saying they came up with the original idea for the Harry Potter books. It always happens wayyy after the fact.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Newby on June 04, 2005, 12:01:30 AM
Did you even read the article? It would seem you didn't.

The FBI found STRONG evidence of her film being linked to a flick in the Terminator series and the Warner Brother's lawyer offered a cash settlement after she contacted them with her lawyer. Why oh WHY the hell would you do that if you didn't rip it off?
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Quik on June 04, 2005, 12:05:32 AM
So it doesn't blow up and cost them more money than they can settle for? That seem pretty obvious.

I read some of the article, it is quite long though.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Nate on June 04, 2005, 10:43:30 AM
She also takes credit for the success of the Jackson 5.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: rabbit on June 04, 2005, 04:44:09 PM
No, she doesn't.  She said the "Jackson family", not "I made the Jackson 5".  Read EVERY word for fucks sake.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Nate on June 04, 2005, 06:59:41 PM
It doesn't really matter because she submitted an unfinished work which cannot be copyrighted.  It would be like me copyrighting time travel without an actual physical product that allows you to travel through time.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Blaze on June 04, 2005, 07:37:22 PM
So you can't copyright a bot in its alpha stages? Its not completley finished...
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Nate on June 04, 2005, 08:11:43 PM
If you distribute an unfinished product in a raw form then i would consider it public domain.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Warrior on June 04, 2005, 08:23:45 PM
She sent a finished product with illustrations and photos. Duh.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Nate on June 04, 2005, 08:25:49 PM
Not originally.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Warrior on June 04, 2005, 09:15:27 PM
afaik she sent it to some lady at first
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: rabbit on June 04, 2005, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: 111787 on June 04, 2005, 08:11:43 PM
If you distribute an unfinished product in a raw form then i would consider it public domain.
Go read copyright.gov.

It doesn't matter what YOU consider it, it's what the GOVERNMENT considers it.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: Nate on June 05, 2005, 09:36:33 AM
Quoteยง 507. Limitations on actions6

(a) Criminal Proceedings. - Except as expressly provided otherwise in this title, no criminal proceeding shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within 5 years after the cause of action arose.

(b) Civil Actions. - No civil action shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within three years after the claim accrued.

Lets see that takes care of Terminator 1 & 2 as well as The Matrix and I think The Matrix Reloaded.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: trust on June 05, 2005, 10:12:13 AM
Quote from: Newby on June 04, 2005, 12:01:30 AM
Did you even read the article? It would seem you didn't.

The FBI found STRONG evidence of her film being linked to a flick in the Terminator series and the Warner Brother's lawyer offered a cash settlement after she contacted them with her lawyer. Why oh WHY the hell would you do that if you didn't rip it off?

Offering a settlement avoids bad publicity for the company. It's just like rumors in school, even if they aren't true the damage is done no matter if it's proved false or not. It's not like they can't afford it.
Title: Re: The Matrix/Terminator 1-3: Ripped off?
Post by: rabbit on June 05, 2005, 01:38:12 PM
That applies to being tried by the state.  If someone actually SUES someone, there isn't a restriction on time.  In a lawsuit like that, just the fact that the FBI is backing Stewart is powerful evidence, but then on top of that there is evidence of copyright violation.

The second Matrix movie came out less than 5 years ago.