When you're in prison, don't turn the other way
Keep your back against the wall
When you're in prison, don't turn the other way
Do not bend at all
.. err, sorry, that's an Offspring song. What I really meant to post was this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858
A really interesting read, written by somebody who was in prison for two years for armed robbery. It's about his experiences, the drugs, the killing, and all the other crap that went down. I'd take the whole thing with a grain of salt, because it was originally posted on 99chan, but it's still a great read.
Didn't know you visited TL :P
Interesting read.
Quote from: rabbit on October 16, 2010, 01:18:17 PM
Didn't know you visited TL :P
I don't, it was on boingboing. I'm not sure what teamliquid is, in fact.
I found this really interesting. Especially the bit about the white prison guards, and being drug out to see his parents when he was high.
Taken with a grain of salt...still sounds rough. I still resent the local county detention center inmates I visited in 4th grade. They had cable and everything you could want (in jail). I didnt have all of that shit growing up. Fuck it.
The thing is, prisons are *supposed* to rehabilitate people. A lot of people think prisons exist for punishment, but punishment is only an effective way of teaching people not to get caught. Some people think prisons are simply to keep dangerous people off the streets, but if that's the case then they should all be killed (I don't believe that, obviously, but it's the logical followup to keeping people off the streets).
By the sounds of this, and stories I've heard from my uncle (who's a prison guard) and other places, it sounds like prisons make no attempt whatsoever to rehabilitate. In fact, the people who come out seem worse off than when they went in, and *more* likely to commit a violent crime or hurt people. That's an epic failure of the prison system, IMO.
Quote from: iago on October 16, 2010, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: rabbit on October 16, 2010, 01:18:17 PM
Didn't know you visited TL :P
I don't, it was on boingboing. I'm not sure what teamliquid is, in fact.
Lame. TL is all about SC and SC2. Mostly the professional scene.
Quote from: iago on October 17, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
In fact, the people who come out seem worse off than when they went in, and *more* likely to commit a violent crime or hurt people. That's an epic failure of the prison system, IMO.
Why leave a good thing? They get fed, they get exercise, they get a nice little home... when they're back on the streets, what do they do? Go right back to comfort.
Quote from: Newby on October 17, 2010, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: iago on October 17, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
In fact, the people who come out seem worse off than when they went in, and *more* likely to commit a violent crime or hurt people. That's an epic failure of the prison system, IMO.
Why leave a good thing? They get fed, they get exercise, they get a nice little home... when they're back on the streets, what do they do? Go right back to comfort.
newby, you're stupid sometimes
Quote from: iago on October 17, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
The thing is, prisons are *supposed* to rehabilitate people. A lot of people think prisons exist for punishment, but punishment is only an effective way of teaching people not to get caught. Some people think prisons are simply to keep dangerous people off the streets, but if that's the case then they should all be killed (I don't believe that, obviously, but it's the logical followup to keeping people off the streets).
By the sounds of this, and stories I've heard from my uncle (who's a prison guard) and other places, it sounds like prisons make no attempt whatsoever to rehabilitate. In fact, the people who come out seem worse off than when they went in, and *more* likely to commit a violent crime or hurt people. That's an epic failure of the prison system, IMO.
I agree that prisons should be rehab facilities in that they teach inmates marketable skills. But at the same time, the life one leads in prison should be hell on earth. So rehab + punishment=learn how to do something (that is hard to translate into another crime), and have them lead a rather shitty life inside as punishment for being a douche to society. Best of both worlds.