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Technical (Development, Security, etc.) => Unix / Linux Discussion => Topic started by: Joe on June 14, 2005, 09:37:39 AM

Title: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 14, 2005, 09:37:39 AM
Whats your favorite distro and why?

Mine is Slackware because iago uses it! =)
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: RoMi on June 14, 2005, 09:45:26 AM
My favorite BSD Distribution: OpenBSD (runs very fast and is very secure)
Favorite Linux Distribution: Slackware or Gentoo (I can't decide!)
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: iago on June 14, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
Slackware, because I've always used it.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Krazed on June 14, 2005, 10:44:22 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=1601.msg14162#msg14162 date=1118756259]
Whats your favorite distro and why?

Mine is Slackware because iago uses it! =)

That's a stupid reason. I use slackware for the same reason as iago, I always have. For BSD, I'd probably choose OpenBSD, for it's ship-with-security-ness (yes, that word rocks.) and it's stability and speed.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Ergot on June 14, 2005, 12:47:40 PM
Slackware because it rescued me from RH9 >:O!
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 15, 2005, 04:53:12 AM
Ok, "because iago uses it" is a stupid reason.

1) Security. Er, iago said so.

2) Pretty much all-inclusive. You never have to get anything. Its all there for you.

3) It likes my cordless USB mouse. Yes it does.

4) I can't think of a 4th thing.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 15, 2005, 04:57:10 AM
I use Ubuntu "Hoary Hedgehog" Linux for my PowerPC box for the following reasons.

1) I got free, awesome-looking CD's shipped to me through their "Ship-it" program (almost typed shit twice).

2) It has apt-get by default and that made my life easy.

3) It works the hardware I have, and nothing had to be changed at all. My USB mouse and keyboard worked right out of the box, although iMac's can't use the old-world mac 4-pin keyboards even if we wanted, nor their mice.

I would, however, want to try out Slackintosh, the Macintosh Slackware, to see which I like better. Thankfully, I have a second Mac I could do this on so I wouldn't have to reformat! iago tells me Slackintosh is horribly out of date, but I think (and I believe he backed me up on this one, but don't shoot me if he didn't), that some software upgrades and a kernel upgrade and I'll be uptodate.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: iago on June 15, 2005, 08:12:22 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=1601.msg14280#msg14280 date=1118825830]
2) It has apt-get by default and that made my life easy.

Incidentally, all that does is download/install a .rpm file.  Lately, especially at work and on my slower computers, I've been using slapt-get which downloads/installs a .tgz package.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 15, 2005, 08:53:44 AM
I'll have to see if Ubuntu came with that.. *pokes cave's power button*

Nope. Ubuntu (at least the powerpc distro) doesn't have slapt-get. Nor does apt-get allow you to install it. =/.

joe@cave:~ $ apt-get install spapt-get
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
joe@cave:~ $ sudo apt-get install slapt-get
Password:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package slapt-get


I downloaded it from freshmeat, but it was already built for x86. I'ma go look for the source code. If anyone finds it first, let me know.

EDIT -
A merry hunt you've lead me on, iago, before letting me know that sl in slapt means Slackware. =/.

EDIT -
Word, when did I start giving a fuck? *installs*

EDIT/b] -
Wow, that thing hates my PPC guts. *gets on with life*
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: iago on June 15, 2005, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=1601.msg14292#msg14292 date=1118840024]
I'll have to see if Ubuntu came with that.. *pokes cave's power button*

Nope. Ubuntu (at least the powerpc distro) doesn't have slapt-get. Nor does apt-get allow you to install it. =/.

joe@cave:~ $ apt-get install spapt-get
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
joe@cave:~ $ sudo apt-get install slapt-get
Password:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package slapt-get


I downloaded it from freshmeat, but it was already built for x86. I'ma go look for the source code. If anyone finds it first, let me know.

EDIT -
A merry hunt you've lead me on, iago, before letting me know that sl in slapt means Slackware. =/.

EDIT -
Word, when did I start giving a fuck? *installs*

EDIT/b] -
Wow, that thing hates my PPC guts. *gets on with life*

I thought it was obvious that slapt-get was for slackware.  I didn't really think about it :P

And yeah, installing prepackaged ix86 binaries on ppc probably wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 15, 2005, 10:13:38 AM
I know. =).
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: mynameistmp on June 15, 2005, 03:17:28 PM
Joe, why don't you try out Yellow Dog ? I've heard mostly good things about it.

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: iago on June 15, 2005, 07:00:57 PM
We have YellowDog installed on a iBook laptop (or something..it's orange and heavy) at work.  It lives in a drawer, and I've never used it, but it installed!
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Ergot on June 15, 2005, 07:36:18 PM
Well I could give it a new home ^^ :] ?
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: iago on June 15, 2005, 09:31:07 PM
We're government; we don't throw anything out.  Ever.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: deadly7 on June 15, 2005, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: iago on June 15, 2005, 09:31:07 PM
We're government; we don't throw anything out. Ever.
Tell that to this guy.. (http://www.billclinton.com)
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Ergot on June 15, 2005, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: iago on June 15, 2005, 09:31:07 PM
We're government; we don't throw anything out. Ever.

No one said anything about throwing it out... ;]
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Sidoh on June 16, 2005, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: iago on June 15, 2005, 09:31:07 PM
We're government; we don't throw anything out.  Ever.

My school always gets donations from the BLM and whatnot, does your workplace do that?
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: iago on June 16, 2005, 07:42:24 AM
Yes, when something is broken or useless we donate it to schools.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Mythix on June 16, 2005, 02:13:41 PM
<3 the educational system.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Sidoh on June 16, 2005, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: iago on June 16, 2005, 07:42:24 AM
Yes, when something is broken or useless we donate it to schools.

Haha. woot. :)
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 16, 2005, 04:34:02 PM
Broken? Damn your nice. Well, I suppose the computers we took apart/rebuilt in Comp Sci were broken too.

Donate me that Laptop? I'm a student. And yes, if its orange, its a laptop.

Tmp, mind mailing me a burned CD of it? My 56k doesn't like ISO's. =)
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Ergot on June 16, 2005, 05:54:25 PM
NO WAY JOE I called it first!
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Sidoh on June 16, 2005, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=1601.msg14521#msg14521 date=1118954042]
Broken? Damn your nice. Well, I suppose the computers we took apart/rebuilt in Comp Sci were broken too.

Donate me that Laptop? I'm a student. And yes, if its orange, its a laptop.

Tmp, mind mailing me a burned CD of it? My 56k doesn't like ISO's. =)

He said useless, too.

A 400MHz computer is pretty good by my school's standards. I really doubt you could catch any other government organization using a 400MHz computer.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: zorm on June 17, 2005, 06:45:54 PM
Gentoo here. Its nice, easy to use and has large support forums. Running a bleeding edge gentoo system can cause some problems, but once stuff becomes stable its about as easy as it gets. When the 2.6 kernel came out I decided to try it and installing it was a pain in the ass on gentoo, but now 2.6 is the default and if you want 2.4 its as easy as changing a profile name. Also, its getting easier and easier to install with every release as they improve the system and the documentation for it.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Joe on June 17, 2005, 07:51:42 PM
Gentoo compiles on installing, right? While thats always fine and dandy, as you get the source code right on the CD, I don't care for it that much, because the boxes I have to toss linux on are 266 or lower, and installing a pre-compiled Linux like Slackware takes an entire day (not exagerating..). Of course, for anyone that uses Linux as their main operating system, they will have a faster processor and it shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Newby on June 17, 2005, 10:08:26 PM
If installing Slackware takes a long time, well, good luck getting Gentoo to install in under a day!
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Blaze on June 17, 2005, 10:10:13 PM
It took you a day to install slackware!?  Only took me < 3 hours and I had no idea what I was doing...
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: zorm on June 17, 2005, 11:05:09 PM
Gentoo can take awhile to install yes. Of course I personally don't see why that matters. On my 500mhz celeron I start bootstrapping before I goto bed and its finished by morning. Then I emerge system and that takes until sometime in the afternoon. After that more user interaction is required for installing the kernel and picking loggers and such. But this doesn't take very long. If you want X and KDE well god help you because ive heard of insanely long compile times for these in the range of days. But I think these users were exaggerating but who knows. So yes it takes awhile to install but I feel its worth it because I can control just about everything that gets installed.
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: mynameistmp on June 18, 2005, 02:21:24 AM
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So yes it takes awhile to install but I feel its worth it because I can control just about everything that gets installed.

For anyone interested, Slackware:

http://www.slackware.com/book/index.php?source=x4150.html
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: venox on August 23, 2005, 07:22:54 PM
FreeBSD.  Quite simple because it makes an excellent workspace and the ports system kicks serious ass :)
Title: Re: Distributions?
Post by: Quik on August 24, 2005, 01:12:13 AM
Quote from: mynameistmp on June 18, 2005, 02:21:24 AM
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So yes it takes awhile to install but I feel its worth it because I can control just about everything that gets installed.

For anyone interested, Slackware:

http://www.slackware.com/book/index.php?source=x4150.html

Yes yes, we know by now. ;)

Quote from: venox on August 23, 2005, 07:22:54 PM
FreeBSD. Quite simple because it makes an excellent workspace and the ports system kicks serious ass :)

I am concidering installing FreeBSD on a laptop I have, just to play around with it. I've heard almost nothing of good things about it, so why not.