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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Towelie on September 03, 2005, 03:03:49 PM

Title: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Towelie on September 03, 2005, 03:03:49 PM
Ok lets ee who can top me off. I have 7.71 GBs, 7723 files, and 99 folders.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Blaze on September 03, 2005, 04:36:51 PM
0kb... :(
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Sidoh on September 03, 2005, 04:39:03 PM
Might as well post it in this thread too.

Lmao.

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Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 03, 2005, 04:39:25 PM
LOL @ SIDOH.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Joe on September 03, 2005, 04:47:25 PM
Towelie, linkage please.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Ergot on September 03, 2005, 06:14:18 PM
So... how much of that is between you and your sister?
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Blaze on September 03, 2005, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: Ergot on September 03, 2005, 06:14:18 PM
So... how much of that is between you and your sister?

Owned. :)
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 03, 2005, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: Ergot on September 03, 2005, 06:14:18 PM
So... how much of that is between you and your sister?

None. Towelie's sister gets some. :P
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: trust on September 04, 2005, 12:55:15 AM
16.1GB, 722 Files, 90 Folders :(

When I accidentally formatted my External a couple of months ago I lost 30 or 40 gigs of pr0n. :(
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 01:50:01 AM
Send your harddrive to me, my dad has recovery stuff from government...
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 01:57:45 AM
If it's been running for a couple of months, there's no utility (unless it can conjure the item from several weeks earlier in time) that can recover data like that.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Joe on September 04, 2005, 02:29:08 AM
Never say no. Not even to drugs. =p
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: deadly7 on September 04, 2005, 11:03:35 AM
Porn = lame.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 01:57:45 AM
If it's been running for a couple of months, there's no utility (unless it can conjure the item from several weeks earlier in time) that can recover data like that.
It can recover harddrives that have been written over 32 times with 0's.  Its also only available to intelligence agencys (US, UK, CA).
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 04, 2005, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 01:57:45 AM
If it's been running for a couple of months, there's no utility (unless it can conjure the item from several weeks earlier in time) that can recover data like that.
It can recover harddrives that have been written over 32 times with 0's.  Its also only available to intelligence agencys (US, UK, CA).

What about drives that have had random bits written over it 31 times, then a final wipe with 0s? :)
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
*shrug*
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 04, 2005, 04:00:37 PM
Want me to send you a 3gb hard-drive that has been overwritten 35 times with random bytes (then finally re-written with 0s) to see how it stands up? :p
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: Newby on September 04, 2005, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 01:57:45 AM
If it's been running for a couple of months, there's no utility (unless it can conjure the item from several weeks earlier in time) that can recover data like that.
It can recover harddrives that have been written over 32 times with 0's.  Its also only available to intelligence agencys (US, UK, CA).

What about drives that have had random bits written over it 31 times, then a final wipe with 0s? :)

More than 31, I'll tell you that much.  :)

Even if it could revive 3-month old data off of a heavily used harddrive, it'd be corrupt as hell.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Joe on September 04, 2005, 05:40:34 PM
Blaze, I hate to tell you this, but unless it was in a disk array then moved to a single disk setup, that is impossible. It just is.

EDIT -
And even then, it can't be recovered. It would be recovered by plugging the used disk back in and recovering it with the error-checking disks.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 04, 2005, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=2628.msg24988#msg24988 date=1125870034]
EDIT -
And even then, it can't be recovered. It would be recovered by plugging the used disk back in and recovering it with the error-checking disks.
I have software that recovers data after it's been "deleted from the hard-drive" in Windows.

I also have software that recovers data from "corrupt" drives (including those that claim to be clean)

I also have software that scrubs drives! ;D
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 06:35:42 PM
I don't know how the program works, but it does... *shrug*
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 11:09:06 PM
Quote from: Blaze on September 04, 2005, 06:35:42 PM
I don't know how the program works, but it does... *shrug*

It makes up phony bits?  Its impossible, unless the bits on a harddrive retain a history of their magnetic status, which would prove useless.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Towelie on September 04, 2005, 11:54:09 PM
lol @ Sidos new baner. I did that on purpose :-)
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: trust on September 05, 2005, 05:56:58 PM
So....I win?
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 05, 2005, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on September 04, 2005, 11:09:06 PM
It makes up phony bits?  Its impossible, unless the bits on a harddrive retain a history of their magnetic status, which would prove useless.

My dad told me allllll about how they recover data. Some of their shit is fucking crazy. They read each byte one by one. You're pretty much fucked.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: iago on September 07, 2005, 11:53:50 AM
I've spent a reasonable amount of time doing forensics at work, so I guess I could put this to rest. 

If you overwrite every byte on a harddrive once, you're good for 99.999% of the world.  Only the richest and most powerful organizations (US Government, and a few private data-recovery organizations) can recover it.  If you overwrite it 3 times, you're safe from probably everybody, except maybe the US Government.  If you overwrite it 7 times, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. 

If you overwrite every byte, it makes it impossible for any software tool to pick it up.  You have to remove the platters and scan the magnetics whozzits of each one to pick up bits and pieces of data.  Once it's been overwritten, you'll never get a 100% clean image.  No matter what technology you have, physics is against you. 

Once it's been overwritten 3 times, each bit is so mucked up that it's basically impossible to detect the magnetic discrepencies of the original data. 

The only true solution, of course, is to destroy it. 

In the Canadian government, there are 6 data classifications:
Classified, Level 1, Level 2 -- wipe the disk 3 times, then it can be sold or donated
Secret, Top Secret, Level 3 -- disintegrate the disk into pieces that can fit through a 1/4" screen, then recycle them.  The recycling is important, because once the plate from the harddrive is built into a house, it's pretty tough to recover it :)

I had a link to an article on data recovery written by the Canadian DND, but I don't have it now.  Oh well :)

Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: MyndFyre on September 07, 2005, 12:20:07 PM
Canadian hard drive security is pansy because they don't have anything valuable to protect. :P
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: iago on September 07, 2005, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=2628.msg25422#msg25422 date=1126110007]
Canadian hard drive security is pansy because they don't have anything valuable to protect. :P

I'll just ignore your typical American ignorance :P
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Newby on September 07, 2005, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: iago on September 07, 2005, 11:53:50 AM
If you overwrite every byte on a harddrive once, you're good for 99.999% of the world.  Only the richest and most powerful organizations (US Government, and a few private data-recovery organizations) can recover it.  If you overwrite it 3 times, you're safe from probably everybody, except maybe the US Government.  If you overwrite it 7 times, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

My drive scrubber says 7 times is government standard for secure data deletion.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: GameSnake on September 07, 2005, 03:50:10 PM
NERDS.
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: iago on September 07, 2005, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: Newby on September 07, 2005, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: iago on September 07, 2005, 11:53:50 AM
If you overwrite every byte on a harddrive once, you're good for 99.999% of the world.  Only the richest and most powerful organizations (US Government, and a few private data-recovery organizations) can recover it.  If you overwrite it 3 times, you're safe from probably everybody, except maybe the US Government.  If you overwrite it 7 times, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

My drive scrubber says 7 times is government standard for secure data deletion.

Yeah, I believe that's the American number.  Here, it's 3 for low-risk data, and complete destruction for high-risk data. 
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: Joe on September 07, 2005, 05:44:09 PM
Well, hard drives go for about a dollar per 2GB, depending on brand, etc. Is Canada so broke it can't afford to just disenegrate (sp) them all?
Title: Re: Who has more porn!?
Post by: iago on September 07, 2005, 05:53:57 PM
No, we just aren't that wasteful.  Why would you care if somebody managed to recover a copy of your mom's cake recipe off your harddrive?

(That's the example they always use at work, cake recipe's, it usually gets a laugh out of the person they're talking to)