I hate seeing people running rampant banning you in any channel they want, pretending to be a rep, anyon wanna explain the exploit to me on or off air please I am getting close to the truth since befriending Dave (a guy who showed me the exploit) but wont tell anything usefull. k
What Battle.net exploit? Is it the clan bug?
What exactly do they do? I think it's the Clan bug as well Newby
Umm no its the one where a person can replicate a blizzard rep, literally, but they are not seen in the channel as an icon. I get the general idea its something like intercepting packets with 1 program and sending your own on a bot.
Without knowing the protocal specifications for the client Reps use anything like that would result in disconnect(i.e. not sending packets/sending bad packets). i think your talking about the clan bug.
Clan bug. :)
It still exists? What the fuck?
Someone post an example.
They are trying to make you think they are a rep, but only reps will have the icon and @Blizzard. They are gaining ops in your clan channel by creating a clan channel on a non-WarIII client (by sending special packets to Blizzard).
Wasn't this patched? Holy christ blizzard.
The reps use normal clients, AFAIK. The server has a list of reps and if they're on that list their flags are set to 0x02. Or 0x01. Or 0x08. Or whatever it was.
Quote from: Joe[e2] on December 06, 2005, 10:16:45 PM
The reps use normal clients, AFAIK. The server has a list of reps and if they're on that list their flags are set to 0x02. Or 0x01. Or 0x08. Or whatever it was.
How do you know this?
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Quote from: Joe[e2] on December 06, 2005, 10:16:45 PM
The reps use normal clients, AFAIK. The server has a list of reps and if they're on that list their flags are set to 0x02. Or 0x01. Or 0x08. Or whatever it was.
How do you know this?
I think I told him.
When War3 first came out, Spht registered an account called AlanN or something (the name of a Blizzard rep, I forget which). A day later he logged in with his normal bot or client, and discovered that he had Blizzard flags. He took a few screenshots, and there were witnesses, then he surrendered the account to Blizzard.
Actually, you didn't tell me, unless I was stoned off prescription drugs and forgot. I was actually basing that off the way TBNCS works (and the client supporting the flags being given to it), but I guess I forgot to say that.
Quote from: iago on December 06, 2005, 10:49:28 PM
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Quote from: Joe[e2] on December 06, 2005, 10:16:45 PM
The reps use normal clients, AFAIK. The server has a list of reps and if they're on that list their flags are set to 0x02. Or 0x01. Or 0x08. Or whatever it was.
How do you know this?
I think I told him.
When War3 first came out, Spht registered an account called AlanN or something (the name of a Blizzard rep, I forget which). A day later he logged in with his normal bot or client, and discovered that he had Blizzard flags. He took a few screenshots, and there were witnesses, then he surrendered the account to Blizzard.
The name of the Blizzard rep couldn't have been
AlanN now could it? :P
How is it the clan bug when you can goto any channel and do as you please?
If you can show a screenshot or something... of them taking over like Starcraft USA-1 or Public Chat 1... or some evidence of what you're talking about, the people here can better assist you.
Quote from: Ergot on December 07, 2005, 01:22:02 AM
If you can show a screenshot or something... of them taking over like Starcraft USA-1 or Public Chat 1... or some evidence of what you're talking about, the people here can better assist you.
You sound like a tech support rep. :P
Yeh but it doesn't happen everyday sorry and I have images from a previous report of this:
9/1/04
"Uhh.. I have a unique case.
I believe this person is posing as a Blizzard Represenitive.
He/she kicked us all out of a channle, then when I questioned if this
person was a rep, I was disconnected. I would think this is highly
illegal, but you decide, tell me whats going on."
Note I have known of this exploit and submitted the bug several times since 1999.
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Yea, those aren't in public channels though. They are limited to clan/op channels, however, in this case, I believe it's a real Blizzard Representative. They go around from time to time being douche nuggets :P
I hardly consider the fact that you pissed a system's operator off an exploit.
I've actually had a conversation with perl. He isn't a rep, as he will tell you himself, but he is an employee of Blizzard. Reps aren't suposed to go to private channels, and don't moderate blizzard channels like he does. So no its not an exploit, and yes he has the power to ban/kick/lock your channel. Same thing happened aC.
Quote from: RoMi on December 07, 2005, 06:24:22 AM
I've actually had a conversation with perl. He isn't a rep, as he will tell you himself, but he is an employee of Blizzard. Reps aren't suposed to go to private channels, and don't moderate blizzard channels like he does. So no its not an exploit, and yes he has the power to ban/kick/lock your channel. Same thing happened aC.
Seems like a Blizzard employee who has sysop privileges and @Blizzard is a representative of Blizzard whether or not that's what they're paid for.
OH MY GOD you guys do not read my post. I will explain this for the last time: This person I know who does it, goes into any channel, private or public and can ban or kick you or abunch of people at will. For godsake READ my posts next time. Those screenshots are of one time, not what happend yesterday. Yesterday I was kicked from Open Tech Support and thats why I am here. I can see most of you dont know much about this. For what I know it is probably on e guy, Dave, he is my friend and likes to play these cruel jokes and he is Perl/MartyS/Sysop guys. He WILL lie and he WILL tell you he is a rep but he isn't, I know all of this because he shares this information with me and has followed me around kicking me since 1999. There may be some others who know the exploit but I have never met them.
Uhm... I'm not sure how to say this: your friend Dave is a liar, and he isn't those reps?
That is a system administrator on Blizzard. It's not your friend. Your friend is a liar and doesn't have the capabilties to do that. Unless he works for Blizzard. But I still doubt your friend is those people.
If you have proof beyond "you have to believe me" I'll believe you, but I'm just trying to make sense out of a situation you seem to have blown out of proportion.
Incidentally, Blizzard requires its employees to move to Irvine, CA unless they are WoW GMs for out-of-country stuff, and even then it's iffy.
I dont know what to say anymore. I was shown something that you guys can't understand and I dont know how to explain it. So for what its worth I said my part and will probably not speak about it much anymore, blizzard has told me to goto battle.net's support and they told me it was indeed a hacker and they're taking care of it but the problem persists. Ahwell was worth a shot.
If you want to post a screenshot of them stating it's a hacker, I'll be glad to believe you and admit I was wrong and apologize for doubting you.
Hmm, ok I think some of you (and I) are confused, and its better it stays that way. I will only say that there is a person out there who can exploit something on battle.net and make himself a virtual rep, without actually being one. His icon doesn't show up in the channel and thats how you know it isn't legitimet. For what it is worth anymore I just wanted battle.net to patch this and they definitly know its a real thing. iago tried to help me with this awhile back and understood what was going on, I think I should console certin people in private, I am sorry I have talked about this because most people dont know about it and think i'm making it up or something. Anyway thank you for trying to help.
Just for the record, that screen shot does not show a blizzard rep or anyone affiliated with Blizzard at all, this was confirmed to me by several technical support staff member.