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Title: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:22:12 PM
iago helped me set up slapt-get the other day, and I needed to get Gnome from it so I typed:
"slapt-get --show Gnome"
and nothing came up.  I tried varying capital letters and stuff in Gnome too, and it didn't work.  I'm currently using XFCE because KDE owns my beast of a PC (400MHz, 384mb RAM, 2mb video card) and I want to see why people seem to like Gnome as much as they do..
How do I get Gnome?
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2005, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:22:12 PM
iago helped me set up slapt-get the other day, and I needed to get Gnome from it so I typed:
"slapt-get --show Gnome"
and nothing came up.  I tried varying capital letters and stuff in Gnome too, and it didn't work.  I'm currently using XFCE because KDE owns my beast of a PC (400MHz, 384mb RAM, 2mb video card) and I want to see why people seem to like Gnome as much as they do..
How do I get Gnome?

Wow, yuck.  Get a new PC.

Anyway, I wasn't aware that you'd use slapt-get to update individual packages.  Personally, I'd just download the Gnome packages using wget and install them manually.  I just use SSH on my server though, so I don't have too much experience setting up/using X.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Blaze on December 10, 2005, 10:36:52 PM
ian@BATSERVER:~$ slapt-get
-bash: slapt-get: command not found

:(
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:52:09 PM
Uh, slapt-get is a PROGRAM blaze.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2005, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:52:09 PM
Uh, slapt-get is a PROGRAM blaze.

So is vim and it still works from bash.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 11:09:38 PM
Well I don't know, but slapt-get is a program that doesn't do that.
It needs strings attached..
Try "slapt-get --info" if you have it installed (you need [lib]curls and slapt-get)
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Ergot on December 10, 2005, 11:16:59 PM
slapt-get is a program that doesn't come with slackware. For slapt-get to work, you need to put in the right paths. Pat does not provide Gnome so you'll need to look for third party packages.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2005, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: Ergot on December 10, 2005, 11:16:59 PM
slapt-get is a program that doesn't come with slackware. For slapt-get to work, you need to put in the right paths. Pat does not provide Gnome so you'll need to look for third party packages.

The reason it doesn't run from bash doesn't have much to do with the fact it doesn't come with slackware.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: Ergot on December 10, 2005, 11:16:59 PM
slapt-get is a program that doesn't come with slackware. For slapt-get to work, you need to put in the right paths. Pat does not provide Gnome so you'll need to look for third party packages.
DAMN HIM! :(
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Ergot on December 10, 2005, 11:47:42 PM
http://dropline-gnome.sourceforge.net/
http://gsb.freerock.org/

Point to the correct location of mirrors of those. I tried freerock for some misc. packages. Worked like it should.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Joe on December 11, 2005, 12:03:58 AM
QuoteWow, yuck.  Get a new PC.
400MHz 32MB ram is perfectly acceptable for Linux (not for KDE, but for WMaker and stuff). Its only windows that requires more.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: Joe[e2] on December 11, 2005, 12:03:58 AM400MHz 32MB ram is perfectly acceptable for Linux (not for KDE, but for WMaker and stuff). Its only windows that requires more.

Of course it's perfectly acceptable.  Actually, I have a machine in our MDF running XP that I use every day that has a 350 MHz processor with 64 MB RAM.  It's slow, but it would be slow on Linux too.

Secondly, I wouldn't want to have that as a workstation.  Mainly because you're not going to have much luck with X at all and I would require that I had some graphical interface to use since it drastically simplifies things.  I wouldn't want to use it as a server either, since it sucks so much.  So basically, the PC sucks and he should get a new one.

My point remains solid.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Joe on December 11, 2005, 12:38:28 AM
Hm, now that you mention it, I think X11 would take 20MB alone. 32MB of RAM might be a bottleneck, but the 400MHz wont be.

Its perfectly acceptable as a server. Unless the client computer is connected over 100Mbps ethernet, connection speed will be too bottleneckish for the processor to matter, and apache can just use the pagefile (so can X11, I guess) if needed (it really shouldn't be, but eh?).
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 12:40:35 AM
Quote from: Joe[e2] on December 11, 2005, 12:38:28 AM
Hm, now that you mention it, I think X11 would take 20MB alone. 32MB of RAM might be a bottleneck, but the 400MHz wont be.

Its perfectly acceptable as a server. Unless the client computer is connected over 100Mbps ethernet, connection speed will be too bottleneckish for the processor to matter, and apache can just use the pagefile (so can X11, I guess) if needed (it really shouldn't be, but eh?).

If you want a really shitty server, sure.  I don't want a really shitty server.

My point remains solid.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 11, 2005, 12:52:09 AM
I have 384mb of ram, not 32..
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Blaze on December 11, 2005, 12:56:31 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 11, 2005, 12:52:09 AM
I have 384mb of ram, not 32..
Same here. :)
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Ergot on December 11, 2005, 01:32:49 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: Joe[e2] on December 11, 2005, 12:03:58 AM400MHz 32MB ram is perfectly acceptable for Linux (not for KDE, but for WMaker and stuff). Its only windows that requires more.

Of course it's perfectly acceptable.  Actually, I have a machine in our MDF running XP that I use every day that has a 350 MHz processor with 64 MB RAM.  It's slow, but it would be slow on Linux too.

Secondly, I wouldn't want to have that as a workstation.  Mainly because you're not going to have much luck with X at all and I would require that I had some graphical interface to use since it drastically simplifies things.  I wouldn't want to use it as a server either, since it sucks so much.  So basically, the PC sucks and he should get a new one.

My point remains solid.
Depends Sidoh. That's the great thing about Linux, it's choice. A lightweight WM would not be slow. However, your computer will blow up on KDE.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 01:53:50 AM
Quote from: Ergot on December 11, 2005, 01:32:49 AM
Depends Sidoh. That's the great thing about Linux, it's choice. A lightweight WM would not be slow. However, your computer will blow up on KDE.

It would still suck, especially for the things I use it for.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Ergot on December 11, 2005, 02:01:57 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 01:53:50 AM
Quote from: Ergot on December 11, 2005, 01:32:49 AM
Depends Sidoh. That's the great thing about Linux, it's choice. A lightweight WM would not be slow. However, your computer will blow up on KDE.

It would still suck, especially for the things I use it for.
Do you use it to power your USB penis pump?
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 02:03:18 AM
Quote from: Ergot on December 11, 2005, 02:01:57 AM
Do you use it to power your USB penis pump?

USB dildo, actually.  That and my USB ergot's-mom-clit-blaster.  They take a lot of resources. :(
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: iago on December 11, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 10, 2005, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:22:12 PM
iago helped me set up slapt-get the other day, and I needed to get Gnome from it so I typed:
"slapt-get --show Gnome"
and nothing came up.  I tried varying capital letters and stuff in Gnome too, and it didn't work.  I'm currently using XFCE because KDE owns my beast of a PC (400MHz, 384mb RAM, 2mb video card) and I want to see why people seem to like Gnome as much as they do..
How do I get Gnome?

Wow, yuck.  Get a new PC.

Anyway, I wasn't aware that you'd use slapt-get to update individual packages.  Personally, I'd just download the Gnome packages using wget and install them manually.  I just use SSH on my server though, so I don't have too much experience setting up/using X.

There's nothing wrong with that computer. 

XFCE is similar to Gnome, except lighter. 

Try using --search.  --show only works if you have the name exactly right, but it's probably not called just gnome.  And BTW, make sure you've run --update and are pointed at some mirrors. 

UPDATE (not edit): I tried --search, and I don't actually see it.  I know Slackware was going to stop supporting it, so maybe it got lost in time on the various servers.  It sucks anyway, XFCE is much better, and similar looking.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Ergot on December 11, 2005, 02:50:32 AM
They already stopped supporting it... check the 10.2 packages.  XFCE is alright... but if you really want Gnome, get Dropline or Freerock.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 11, 2005, 10:38:58 AM
Quote from: iago on December 11, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 10, 2005, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:22:12 PM
iago helped me set up slapt-get the other day, and I needed to get Gnome from it so I typed:
"slapt-get --show Gnome"
and nothing came up.  I tried varying capital letters and stuff in Gnome too, and it didn't work.  I'm currently using XFCE because KDE owns my beast of a PC (400MHz, 384mb RAM, 2mb video card) and I want to see why people seem to like Gnome as much as they do..
How do I get Gnome?

Wow, yuck.  Get a new PC.

Anyway, I wasn't aware that you'd use slapt-get to update individual packages.  Personally, I'd just download the Gnome packages using wget and install them manually.  I just use SSH on my server though, so I don't have too much experience setting up/using X.

There's nothing wrong with that computer. 

XFCE is similar to Gnome, except lighter. 

Try using --search.  --show only works if you have the name exactly right, but it's probably not called just gnome.  And BTW, make sure you've run --update and are pointed at some mirrors. 

UPDATE (not edit): I tried --search, and I don't actually see it.  I know Slackware was going to stop supporting it, so maybe it got lost in time on the various servers.  It sucks anyway, XFCE is much better, and similar looking.
What else would they call it if not gnome?
"desktopmanagergnomedownloadhere"? :P
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: iago on December 11, 2005, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 11, 2005, 10:38:58 AM
Quote from: iago on December 11, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 10, 2005, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 10, 2005, 10:22:12 PM
iago helped me set up slapt-get the other day, and I needed to get Gnome from it so I typed:
"slapt-get --show Gnome"
and nothing came up.  I tried varying capital letters and stuff in Gnome too, and it didn't work.  I'm currently using XFCE because KDE owns my beast of a PC (400MHz, 384mb RAM, 2mb video card) and I want to see why people seem to like Gnome as much as they do..
How do I get Gnome?

Wow, yuck.  Get a new PC.

Anyway, I wasn't aware that you'd use slapt-get to update individual packages.  Personally, I'd just download the Gnome packages using wget and install them manually.  I just use SSH on my server though, so I don't have too much experience setting up/using X.

There's nothing wrong with that computer. 

XFCE is similar to Gnome, except lighter. 

Try using --search.  --show only works if you have the name exactly right, but it's probably not called just gnome.  And BTW, make sure you've run --update and are pointed at some mirrors. 

UPDATE (not edit): I tried --search, and I don't actually see it.  I know Slackware was going to stop supporting it, so maybe it got lost in time on the various servers.  It sucks anyway, XFCE is much better, and similar looking.
What else would they call it if not gnome?
"desktopmanagergnomedownloadhere"? :P

They might call it gnome-desktop, gnome-manager, gnome-2, or who knows what else?  KDE is distributed as kdebase, kdeextras and several other packages.
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: iago on December 11, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
There's nothing wrong with that computer. 

Maybe not for the things you do... :P
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: iago on December 12, 2005, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: iago on December 11, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
There's nothing wrong with that computer. 

Maybe not for the things you do... :P

For example, anything that's not Windows :P

If you want a Linux install to test and play with stuff, you don't need a high end box
Title: Re: slapt-get help
Post by: deadly7 on December 13, 2005, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 11, 2005, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: iago on December 11, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
There's nothing wrong with that computer. 

Maybe not for the things you do... :P
<sarcasm>
I'm sorry, viewing high-res porn is for my other computer.
</sarcasm>
iago, gnomey no work, time to download from remote link not supported by slaptget