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Title: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 23, 2005, 11:40:17 PM
Ok, for the last few days my computer has been emitting a smoky smell.

Today, I've narrowed it down to my power supply (where the power plug plugs into) unit, mainly because:

1. My computer doesn't smell outside of the fan on the PSU
2. My PSU smells really bad if I stick my nose next to it.
3. My computer is nice and cool, except for the PSU, which is burning.

Suggestions? It seems to work, except it's emitting smoke from teh fan!
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Eric on December 23, 2005, 11:42:26 PM
Buy a new PSU.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 23, 2005, 11:45:15 PM
Quote from: Lord[nK] on December 23, 2005, 11:42:26 PM
Buy a new PSU.

Too simple. Anything more complex that may fix my current one? :P
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: deadly7 on December 23, 2005, 11:47:31 PM
Spray it with water.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Blaze on December 24, 2005, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 23, 2005, 11:47:31 PM
Spray it with water.
No, stick a paperclip into the wall socket!
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: deadly7 on December 24, 2005, 12:02:51 AM
Quote from: Blaze on December 24, 2005, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 23, 2005, 11:47:31 PM
Spray it with water.
No, stick a paperclip into the wall socket!
I stick things into wall sockets during 1st hour, I've done that before. :P
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:04:32 AM
Have you tried blowing out the dust with an air compressor or something?  If the dust is burning, it could produce a pretty nasty smell. :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 24, 2005, 12:05:30 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:04:32 AM
Have you tried blowing out the dust with an air compressor or something?  If the dust is burning, it could produce a pretty nasty smell. :)

Never thought about doing that. I guess tomorrow I'll buy a compressed air can and shoot it out. :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: deadly7 on December 24, 2005, 12:06:45 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:04:32 AM
Have you tried blowing out the dust with an air compressor or something?  If the dust is burning, it could produce a pretty nasty smell. :)
That's not it, because the dust on my computer parts has done that before and it doesn't stink, it just... drives my computer crazy.

But then again, it wasn't on my PSU.. just everything else.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 24, 2005, 12:17:34 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 24, 2005, 12:06:45 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:04:32 AM
Have you tried blowing out the dust with an air compressor or something?  If the dust is burning, it could produce a pretty nasty smell. :)
That's not it, because the dust on my computer parts has done that before and it doesn't stink, it just... drives my computer crazy.

Shh. Don't drop my hope.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:21:05 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 24, 2005, 12:06:45 AM
That's not it, because the dust on my computer parts has done that before and it doesn't stink, it just... drives my computer crazy.

But then again, it wasn't on my PSU.. just everything else.

I was going to say... I've smelled some pretty funny things because of burning dust. :P
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Blaze on December 24, 2005, 12:28:46 AM
Quote
<newby|WALL> HOLY SHIT IT IS ON FIRE
<Hitmen> owneed
<newby|WALL> afk
<iago> Where to next?
<Towelie|Carcass> ITS ON FIRE
<Towelie|Carcass> ITS ON FIRE
<Blaze|Maed> WTF!
<Towelie|Carcass> ROFL
<iago> haha
<Towelie|Carcass> ROFL
<Blaze|Maed> ROFL!
<Towelie|Carcass> LOLOL
<Hitmen> hahaha
<newby|WALL> I have to turn the box off
<newby|WALL> bye
<Towelie|Carcass> LOL
<Blaze|Maed> Bye
<Blaze|Maed> :-(
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:41:51 AM
Unless it was combustable dust, you're fucked, Newby. :(
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Warrior on December 24, 2005, 02:15:50 AM
ROFL!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA. owned^max (hah)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Towelie on December 24, 2005, 02:38:01 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:41:51 AM
Unless it was combustable dust, you're fucked, Newby. :(

Pretty much. Oh well. I'll blow some compressed air into it, and if all else fails, 5 year warranty for the win. :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Ergot on December 24, 2005, 03:58:19 AM
I think this is a little late... but you could have put some liquid helium...
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: Ergot on December 24, 2005, 03:58:19 AM
I think this is a little late... but you could have put some liquid helium...

Good luck getting that!  Helium boils at 4.2K.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Eric on December 24, 2005, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: Blaze on December 24, 2005, 12:28:46 AM
Quote
<newby|WALL> HOLY SHIT IT IS ON FIRE
<Hitmen> owneed
<newby|WALL> afk
<iago> Where to next?
<Towelie|Carcass> ITS ON FIRE
<Towelie|Carcass> ITS ON FIRE
<Blaze|Maed> WTF!
<Towelie|Carcass> ROFL
<iago> haha
<Towelie|Carcass> ROFL
<Blaze|Maed> ROFL!
<Towelie|Carcass> LOLOL
<Hitmen> hahaha
<newby|WALL> I have to turn the box off
<newby|WALL> bye
<Towelie|Carcass> LOL
<Blaze|Maed> Bye
<Blaze|Maed> :-(

Quote from: Lord[nK] on December 23, 2005, 11:42:26 PM
Buy a new PSU.

I win.  gg.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 24, 2005, 12:22:16 PM
Hehehe, guess so :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: iago on December 24, 2005, 12:33:13 PM
Quote from: Lord[nK] on December 24, 2005, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: Blaze on December 24, 2005, 12:28:46 AM
Quote
<newby|WALL> HOLY SHIT IT IS ON FIRE
<Hitmen> owneed
<newby|WALL> afk
<iago> Where to next?
<Towelie|Carcass> ITS ON FIRE
<Towelie|Carcass> ITS ON FIRE
<Blaze|Maed> WTF!
<Towelie|Carcass> ROFL
<iago> haha
<Towelie|Carcass> ROFL
<Blaze|Maed> ROFL!
<Towelie|Carcass> LOLOL
<Hitmen> hahaha
<newby|WALL> I have to turn the box off
<newby|WALL> bye
<Towelie|Carcass> LOL
<Blaze|Maed> Bye
<Blaze|Maed> :-(

Quote from: Lord[nK] on December 23, 2005, 11:42:26 PM
Buy a new PSU.

I win.  gg.

It's under warranty.  You lose.  gg!
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 25, 2005, 12:57:08 PM
Pretty awesome. I turned it back on (after blowing air out of it) and smoke++;
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 25, 2005, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Newby on December 25, 2005, 12:57:08 PM
Pretty awesome. I turned it back on (after blowing air out of it) and smoke++;

ROFL
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 25, 2005, 01:26:06 PM
So I took the PSU apart and can't identify what was sparking. There's no dust though. Damnit. :(
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: deadly7 on December 25, 2005, 01:31:05 PM
Told you it wasn't cause of dust.
I've had burning dust in my case before (processor got HOT, hadn't cleaned it out in a while) and it didn't smell as bad as newby described it.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 25, 2005, 01:48:04 PM
Sent an e-mail to support. If all else fails, they live less than an hour north of me. :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 25, 2005, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 25, 2005, 01:31:05 PM
Told you it wasn't cause of dust.
I've had burning dust in my case before (processor got HOT, hadn't cleaned it out in a while) and it didn't smell as bad as newby described it.

It's still quite possible that burning dust can smell bad and produce smoke.  Trust me, I've seen it.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Mythix on December 25, 2005, 02:59:23 PM
Yea, I mean, I've seen a mac emit a bad smell like it was burning, but I let it go :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: deadly7 on December 25, 2005, 07:10:48 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 25, 2005, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 25, 2005, 01:31:05 PM
Told you it wasn't cause of dust.
I've had burning dust in my case before (processor got HOT, hadn't cleaned it out in a while) and it didn't smell as bad as newby described it.

It's still quite possible that burning dust can smell bad and produce smoke.  Trust me, I've seen it.
I'm not saying it isn't possible, I'm just saying that it probably wasn't it in this situation.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 25, 2005, 09:08:14 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on December 25, 2005, 07:10:48 PM
I'm not saying it isn't possible, I'm just saying that it probably wasn't it in this situation.

Neither did I.  None of us did.  I was simply offering a possible explanation.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Armin on December 25, 2005, 09:27:53 PM
Uhhh, I definately wouldn't turn my computer back on with the risk of the power supply burning up and destroy your computer... I'd get a new one ASAP.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Newby on December 25, 2005, 10:24:26 PM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on December 25, 2005, 09:27:53 PM
Uhhh, I definately wouldn't turn my computer back on with the risk of the power supply burning up and destroy your computer... I'd get a new one ASAP.

That's the plan. In the meantime, I'll use this laptop that my brother owns.

Damn you IRS! Taking engorged from me. :(
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 25, 2005, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on December 25, 2005, 09:27:53 PM
Uhhh, I definately wouldn't turn my computer back on with the risk of the power supply burning up and destroy your computer... I'd get a new one ASAP.

I really doubt that would happen.  If the power supply is failing, it's probably due to a short circuit, which isn't going to allow power to go anywhere else.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Armin on December 26, 2005, 12:11:44 AM
What happens if the short circuit emitts sparks which can fry everything? How do you know it's probably due to a short circuit, and what if it's not? Is it really worth the risk of losing all of his hardware?
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 26, 2005, 12:22:06 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on December 26, 2005, 12:11:44 AM
What happens if the short circuit emitts sparks which can fry everything? How do you know it's probably due to a short circuit, and what if it's not? Is it really worth the risk of losing all of his hardware?

Sparks aren't going to fry anything.  It's a really safe assumption that the power supply is shot because of a short circuit of some nature.  The only time I've ever seen an issue with a power supply extend to other hardware was the result of a power surge.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Screenor on December 26, 2005, 08:48:36 AM
(http://dark-wire.net/screenor/everything/images/dusty/dusty2.jpg)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Armin on December 26, 2005, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 26, 2005, 12:22:06 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on December 26, 2005, 12:11:44 AM
What happens if the short circuit emitts sparks which can fry everything? How do you know it's probably due to a short circuit, and what if it's not? Is it really worth the risk of losing all of his hardware?

Sparks aren't going to fry anything.  It's a really safe assumption that the power supply is shot because of a short circuit of some nature.  The only time I've ever seen an issue with a power supply extend to other hardware was the result of a power surge.
Mehh, I still wouldn't risk it. :(
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 26, 2005, 01:43:57 PM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on December 26, 2005, 11:41:49 AM
Mehh, I still wouldn't risk it. :(

Me neither, I'm just saying. :)
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Eric on December 26, 2005, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 25, 2005, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on December 25, 2005, 09:27:53 PM
Uhhh, I definately wouldn't turn my computer back on with the risk of the power supply burning up and destroy your computer... I'd get a new one ASAP.

I really doubt that would happen.  If the power supply is failing, it's probably due to a short circuit, which isn't going to allow power to go anywhere else.

I've never looked too much into power supplies but wouldn't a failing supply that was still delivering power deliver dirty electricity thoughout the system leading to possible hardware failure and/or disk corruption?
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Sidoh on December 26, 2005, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Lord[nK] on December 26, 2005, 02:07:42 PM
I've never looked too much into power supplies but wouldn't a failing supply deliver dirty electricity thoughout the system leading to possible hardware failure and/or disk corruption?

Not if it can't deliver power at all.  All of the failed power supplies that I've seen (at least in this nature -- smoke, fire, sparks, etc) are bad because of a short circuit.  Power never leaves the PSU.

I'm sure other forms of malfunctioning PSU's do that sort of thing, but none that behave in the way Newby described.
Title: Re: Burning PSU smell
Post by: Eric on December 26, 2005, 02:16:31 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on December 26, 2005, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Lord[nK] on December 26, 2005, 02:07:42 PM
I've never looked too much into power supplies but wouldn't a failing supply deliver dirty electricity thoughout the system leading to possible hardware failure and/or disk corruption?

All of the failed power supplies that I've seen (at least in this nature -- smoke, fire, sparks, etc) are bad because of a short circuit.

I'm sure other forms of malfunctioning PSU's do that sort of thing, but none that behave in the way Newby described.

ah. k.