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Title: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Towelie on December 31, 2005, 06:29:08 PM
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7272/cs13373ik.jpg
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Screenor on January 04, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
you can see where you edited it to the right of the red line.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 09:40:14 PM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on January 04, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
you can see where you edited it to the right of the red line.

I'm pretty sure that's paint's crappy JPEG encoding.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Screenor on January 04, 2006, 09:56:22 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 09:40:14 PM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on January 04, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
you can see where you edited it to the right of the red line.

I'm pretty sure that's paint's crappy JPEG encoding.
No, if you look closer you see the line surrounding the "Disk Usage 1337Mb", it's not like that anywhere else on the image.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on January 04, 2006, 09:56:22 PM
No, if you look closer you see the line surrounding the "Disk Usage 1337Mb", it's not like that anywhere else on the image.

I know and recognize what you're talking about, but I don't agree with your reasoning for its existence.

It's because mspaint is crappy at encoding JPEG's.  Here's another example.  I simply painted the background gray and made a red rectangle and saved it as a JPEG:

(http://www.sidoh.org/images/test.jpg)

As you can see, the strange coloring around the line exists here too.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Screenor on January 04, 2006, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on January 04, 2006, 09:56:22 PM
No, if you look closer you see the line surrounding the "Disk Usage 1337Mb", it's not like that anywhere else on the image.

I know and recognize what you're talking about, but I don't agree with your reasoning for its existence.

It's because mspaint is crappy at encoding JPEG's.  Here's another example.  I simply painted the background gray and made a red rectangle and saved it as a JPEG:

(http://www.sidoh.org/images/test.jpg)

As you can see, the strange coloring around the line exists here too.
Got to love MS products....
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 10:31:35 PM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on January 04, 2006, 10:03:18 PM
Got to love MS products....

Yep.  Alternatively, you can sometimes tell it's edited by the same affects appearing ON the letters and/or the coloring varying on the letters/suspected area very slightly.  These are just sorts of distortions that happen in the JPEG encoding.  I haven't studied it much, but I've noticed it's there with MSPaint.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Newby on January 04, 2006, 11:14:52 PM
My RMA # was 13337. Do I win?

Anyhow, save it as a png, and you win.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Newby on January 04, 2006, 11:14:52 PM
My RMA # was 13337. Do I win?

Anyhow, save it as a png, and you win.

You do win!

MSPaint's PNG encoder is awful too.  It makes them much larger than they could be if they were encoded using another application (IE Photoshop).  I will admit they look a lot nicer than their JPEG images, that's for sure...
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Newby on January 04, 2006, 11:49:47 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 04, 2006, 11:20:26 PM
MSPaint's PNG encoder is awful too.  It makes them much larger than they could be if they were encoded using another application (IE Photoshop).  I will admit they look a lot nicer than their JPEG images, that's for sure...

That's what I was goin' for. I could care less about size, I'm on cable with a ton of hosting space (<3 xar) and don't care if 56kers can't see images that fast. :)
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Sidoh on January 05, 2006, 12:07:37 AM
Quote from: Newby on January 04, 2006, 11:49:47 PM
That's what I was goin' for. I could care less about size, I'm on cable with a ton of hosting space (<3 xar) and don't care if 56kers can't see images that fast. :)

Haha.  How about we encode them on a non-shitty program and then everyone's happy? :D
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Screenor on January 05, 2006, 12:53:09 AM
MS Paint's encoding sucks period. Photoshop is for the win.
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Sidoh on January 05, 2006, 01:09:56 AM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on January 05, 2006, 12:53:09 AM
MS Paint's encoding sucks period. Photoshop is for the win.

Yeah, its GIF encoding sucks balls too.  I don't think you can encode a bitmap incorrectly without fucking up the colors, so I guess it does that correctly!

Agreed, though.  Photoshop FTW!
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Newby on January 05, 2006, 09:18:54 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 05, 2006, 12:07:37 AM
Haha.  How about we encode them on a non-shitty program and then everyone's happy? :D

mspaint takes ~5 seconds to start it, paste the image, save it as a png, and close it.

Photoshop takes 5 seconds alone to start.

I'll stick with import (http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/import1.html), thank you. :)
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Screenor on January 05, 2006, 09:43:02 AM
Quote from: Newby on January 05, 2006, 09:18:54 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 05, 2006, 12:07:37 AM
Haha.  How about we encode them on a non-shitty program and then everyone's happy? :D

mspaint takes ~5 seconds to start it, paste the image, save it as a png, and close it.

Photoshop takes 5 seconds alone to start.

I'll stick with import (http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/import1.html), thank you. :)
More like two minutes if you're like me and have a lot of added on parts for it. -__-
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Towelie on January 23, 2006, 10:59:24 PM
I swear to fucking god I didnt edit that. Why the fuck would I do taht?
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: ZeroX on February 02, 2006, 09:21:44 PM
Becuase your 133t?
Title: Re: Hmm, this must be awesome.
Post by: Towelie on February 03, 2006, 01:17:22 AM
wrong! It only looksl ike it because its in jpg! I really didnt edit it :/