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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nate on February 12, 2006, 01:53:34 PM

Title: Get me to College now.
Post by: Nate on February 12, 2006, 01:53:34 PM
Tell me this does not sound like an awesome class:

ENG EK 131/132 E2:  Hacking:  Networks, Hardware and Software

Formally, hacking describes the process of cutting irregularly or mangling. Less formally, it represents the creative art of exploiting features of a system that were not designed (or not documented). Hacks include both the infamous and the famous: for example, Captain Crunch who figured out that the free whistles given out in Captain Crunch cereal emitted a frequency that (illegally) enabled "free" pay phone calls; MIT hackers, on the other hand, figured out how to manipulate window shades on a high rise to simulate a game of Tetris. At some level, hacking is the driving force behind some of the most creative research in computer engineering. This course will introduce you to hacking ethics, techniques, and mistakes in computer hardware, software, and networks. 2.0 credits
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Ergot on February 12, 2006, 02:20:49 PM
Pick me! Pick me!!
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Sidoh on February 12, 2006, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: Nate on February 12, 2006, 01:53:34 PM
Tell me this does not sound like an awesome class:

ENG EK 131/132 E2:  Hacking:  Networks, Hardware and Software

Formally, hacking describes the process of cutting irregularly or mangling. Less formally, it represents the creative art of exploiting features of a system that were not designed (or not documented). Hacks include both the infamous and the famous: for example, Captain Crunch who figured out that the free whistles given out in Captain Crunch cereal emitted a frequency that (illegally) enabled "free" pay phone calls; MIT hackers, on the other hand, figured out how to manipulate window shades on a high rise to simulate a game of Tetris. At some level, hacking is the driving force behind some of the most creative research in computer engineering. This course will introduce you to hacking ethics, techniques, and mistakes in computer hardware, software, and networks. 2.0 credits

Not really... you can buy books from Barnes & Noble on hacking.  Taking a class on it is going to be "Okay, here's how to do something" and then twice as much "Now here's why you shouldn't do it," assuming it's unethical (which the only kind of hacking that is going to interest you will be).

I'd much rather take Number Theory. :P
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Nate on February 12, 2006, 02:45:38 PM
you have to pick 2 courses as introduction to engineering which help you decide your specialization.  The courses are purposefully designed to be fun so you pick that field.  That is not a class on ethics.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Sidoh on February 12, 2006, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Nate on February 12, 2006, 02:45:38 PM
you have to pick 2 courses as introduction to engineering which help you decide your specialization.  The courses are purposefully designed to be fun so you pick that field.  That is not a class on ethics.

Did you not read the description?

Quote from: Nate on February 12, 2006, 01:53:34 PM
This course will introduce you to hacking ethics, techniques, and mistakes in computer hardware, software, and networks. 2.0 credits

The classes are designed to sound fun.  However, I'm going to be more perceptive and not automatically assume that'd be a "fun" class.  Sure, it's pretty neat.  I'd still much rather take something like Number Theory.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: igimo1 on February 12, 2006, 03:23:01 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 12, 2006, 02:51:54 PM
I'd still much rather take something like Number Theory.

Yeah, but you're a nerd  :P.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Newby on February 12, 2006, 03:26:33 PM
Haha, that sounds like fun. But I'd rather take a class on programming concepts or just programming in general. Assembly comes to mind, any architecture.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: trust on February 12, 2006, 03:27:16 PM
Wow all of that sounds so..not fun.

I'd like to see a video of the tetris game though.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Sidoh on February 12, 2006, 03:34:41 PM
Quote from: Topaz on February 12, 2006, 03:23:01 PM
Yeah, but you're a nerd  :P.

It says it in my personal text! :P

Quote from: Newby on February 12, 2006, 03:26:33 PM
Haha, that sounds like fun. But I'd rather take a class on programming concepts or just programming in general. Assembly comes to mind, any architecture.

Haha, yeah.  If you're going to go into something that's actually going to use these sorts of hacking things, chances are you already know everything that they're going to teach you.  I think you'd get more benefit from a narrower class, like you're saying.  Something like assembly architecture.

Quote from: OG Trust on February 12, 2006, 03:27:16 PM
Wow all of that sounds so..not fun.

Haha
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Blaze on February 12, 2006, 03:48:57 PM
That sounds fun, but I don't see it coming in handy... ever.  I'd take it if I had an extra course or something but I wouldn't strive to make it what I focus on.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: rabbit on February 12, 2006, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 12, 2006, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Nate on February 12, 2006, 02:45:38 PM
you have to pick 2 courses as introduction to engineering which help you decide your specialization.  The courses are purposefully designed to be fun so you pick that field.  That is not a class on ethics.

Did you not read the description?

Quote from: Nate on February 12, 2006, 01:53:34 PM
This course will introduce you to hacking ethics, techniques, and mistakes in computer hardware, software, and networks. 2.0 credits

The classes are designed to sound fun.  However, I'm going to be more perceptive and not automatically assume that'd be a "fun" class.  Sure, it's pretty neat.  I'd still much rather take something like Number Theory.
I'm taking number theory.  Very fun.

Hacking classes.........well....to each his own.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Sidoh on February 12, 2006, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: rabbit on February 12, 2006, 04:27:54 PM
I'm taking number theory.  Very fun.

Hacking classes.........well....to each his own.

I know you are!  I hate you for it! :(
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: Nate on February 12, 2006, 05:32:40 PM
http://bastilleweb.techhouse.org/ (http://bastilleweb.techhouse.org/)
There is an explination along with photos and movies.
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: iago on February 12, 2006, 06:33:28 PM
Professional hacking classes/workshops put on by large companies and costing $1000's seem really cool, and I'd like to be a part.  But the University course I took in Computer Security sucked hardcore.  It was one of the most boring classes I've taken. 
Title: Re: Get me to College now.
Post by: zorm on February 12, 2006, 06:42:57 PM
I highly doubt the class would teach you anything neat. It sounds like it would go over other peoples hacks and how they worked which would be boring as hell. If they actually did teach you something or give you ideas for hacks/pranks I suspect the liability would be a bit much for the school.