http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060320-6417.html
I have seen this article everywhere.. I saw it on the internet, I saw it on time magazine's front page, and I saw it on T.V.. What do you guys think about this?
Quotecondemns the youth of the nation as gadget-obsessed, perennially multitasking, social failures who can't really get into anything important or even relax.
I know ALOT of people who are like that. I might ask what they define as "social failure", though:
QuoteThe article notes that notebooks in college classrooms (now WiFi enabled more often than not) aren't used for notetaking anymore, but for IMing your friends about how boring the lecture is and for collecting Keira Knightley pics in your blog.
When class rings out, a roomful of teens reach for their cell phones to call or SMS buddies down the hall, or even in the same room.
Why do they admit most teenagers connect to other teenagers while multitasking, but say that this is what leads to "social failure"?!
I don't consider socializing on the internet socializing at all. :p
You must not be a very social person then, Nooby.
Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2006, 06:12:40 PM
I don't consider socializing on the internet socializing at all. :p
I definitely consider it socializing. I'm definitely closer to real-life friends, but I don't consider it much different.
But yeah, I have trouble multitasking. If I have Gaim open while trying to do homework, one of them totally suffers.
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2006, 06:12:40 PM
I don't consider socializing on the internet socializing at all. :p
I definitely consider it socializing. I'm definitely closer to real-life friends, but I don't consider it much different.
But yeah, I have trouble multitasking. If I have Gaim open while trying to do homework, one of them totally suffers.
Same. But only instead of gaim its WoW. Then I usally just toss my homework aside and go to AV.
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2006, 06:12:40 PM
I don't consider socializing on the internet socializing at all. :p
I definitely consider it socializing. I'm definitely closer to real-life friends, but I don't consider it much different.
But yeah, I have trouble multitasking. If I have Gaim open while trying to do homework, one of them totally suffers.
Same. But only instead of gaim its WoW. Then I usally just toss my homework aside and go to AV.
I don't know what AV is. But that's an advantage to using Linux -- very few games to distract me here :)
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: Newby on March 21, 2006, 06:12:40 PM
I don't consider socializing on the internet socializing at all. :p
I definitely consider it socializing. I'm definitely closer to real-life friends, but I don't consider it much different.
But yeah, I have trouble multitasking. If I have Gaim open while trying to do homework, one of them totally suffers.
Same. But only instead of gaim its WoW. Then I usally just toss my homework aside and go to AV.
I don't know what AV is. But that's an advantage to using Linux -- very few games to distract me here :)
Jesus. I forgot >.> Your one of the lucky few that havent caught the WoW virus. I say you buy a $100 hand crank laptop and start playing.
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:13:13 PM
Jesus. I forgot >.> Your one of the lucky few that havent caught the WoW virus. I say you buy a $100 hand crank laptop and start playing.
You obviously don't know much about the $100 laptop. They come with Linux, which is the same problem! :P
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:13:13 PM
Jesus. I forgot >.> Your one of the lucky few that havent caught the WoW virus. I say you buy a $100 hand crank laptop and start playing.
You obviously don't know much about the $100 laptop. They come with Linux, which is the same problem! :P
Yeah, or else the OS would cost more than the hardware, LOL.
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:13:13 PM
Jesus. I forgot >.> Your one of the lucky few that havent caught the WoW virus. I say you buy a $100 hand crank laptop and start playing.
You obviously don't know much about the $100 laptop. They come with Linux, which is the same problem! :P
When Vista comes out do you plan on installing it? I mean your going to have to give in one of these years. Dont buy it right away, Probally after Patch 5.0 comes out. >.>
I want to try Linux but I see no use. Unless your going to use it for projects that your never going to finsh "Raises hand" I dont see the point. IF you could iago sir give me 5 reason to get Linux over Vista. (After about 4 patchs come out to fix the bugs)
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:24:01 PM
Quote from: iago on March 21, 2006, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: ZeroX on March 21, 2006, 07:13:13 PM
Jesus. I forgot >.> Your one of the lucky few that havent caught the WoW virus. I say you buy a $100 hand crank laptop and start playing.
You obviously don't know much about the $100 laptop. They come with Linux, which is the same problem! :P
When Vista comes out do you plan on installing it? I mean your going to have to give in one of these years. Dont buy it right away, Probally after Patch 5.0 comes out. >.>
I want to try Linux but I see no use. Unless your going to use it for projects that your never going to finsh "Raises hand" I dont see the point. IF you could iago sir give me 5 reason to get Linux over Vista. (After about 4 patchs come out to fix the bugs)
Unless Vista totally flops, I'll have to learn how to use it. I don't have a choice, unfortunately.
I can name plenty of reasons, and I have, but this isn't really the place.
Freaky. I just came home and finished reading the Time article, then decide to mazeltov around forum, and come upon the exact same topic!
Quote from: GameSnake on March 21, 2006, 07:20:40 PM
Yeah, or else the OS would cost more than the hardware, LOL.
At least, until Windows Starter Edition comes out this fall, which is geared towards the same markets as this laptop.
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Quote from: GameSnake on March 21, 2006, 07:20:40 PM
Yeah, or else the OS would cost more than the hardware, LOL.
At least, until Windows Starter Edition comes out this fall, which is geared towards the same markets as this laptop.
If that's part of Vista, then it got pushed back to January.
It's always been January 2007..versions availible to buisnesses (and pirates) go out this fall/winter but the rest has been known to be 07. I had a feeling when Steve Jobs put the date of Longhorn release showing some of the gadgets off, it read 12/31/06
Hmm, from this article (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060321-6433.html):
QuoteMicrosoft's Windows Vista operating system has been beset with another delay. After clearly pinpointing the holiday season of 2006 for launch, the company has now revised their primary launch period to 2007.
Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's Platforms & Services Division, told analysts that the target time has been bumped to January 2007 for all consumer versions of Windows. He also said that editions aimed at business users would be available as early as November through volume licensing programs.
Quote"We needed just a few more weeks," Allchin said in a conference call. In a press release, he said "the industry requires greater lead time to deliver Windows Vista on new PCs during holiday. We must optimize for the industry, so we've decided to separate business and consumer availability."
Are they just wrong? I don't know.
What I think (and what my evidence suggests) is that it's been secretly Jan 07 for a while but they were hoping if they went a little faster they could release it earlier than expected. Of course that's what I think.
QuoteIt may affect early market share numbers for Vista, however, as some 33 percent of computers are supposedly sold during this time of year. A holiday launch would have likely resulted in the majority of those computers being installed with Windows Vista.
$10 says that computers sold during the holiday season will have some kind of voucher for free or heavily-discounted version of Windows Vista after release. They've done it before -- I want to say with 98->Me.
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QuoteIt may affect early market share numbers for Vista, however, as some 33 percent of computers are supposedly sold during this time of year. A holiday launch would have likely resulted in the majority of those computers being installed with Windows Vista.
$10 says that computers sold during the holiday season will have some kind of voucher for free or heavily-discounted version of Windows Vista after release. They've done it before -- I want to say with 98->Me.
98 -> me, aka, "a bad move" :)
Alright, good job people, we are almost on topic! Yay!
Anyways.. I don't see that much wrong with multitasking. I have done it for years and nothing has happened to me because of it. I haven't lost anything that is important because of it.
Quote from: AntiVirus on March 22, 2006, 09:30:33 PM
Alright, good job people, we are almost on topic! Yay!
Anyways.. I don't see that much wrong with multitasking. I have done it for years and nothing has happened to me because of it. I haven't lost anything that is important because of it.
That's what you think...
Have you seen your penis lately?
Quote from: Sidoh on March 22, 2006, 09:31:36 PM
Quote from: AntiVirus on March 22, 2006, 09:30:33 PM
Alright, good job people, we are almost on topic! Yay!
Anyways.. I don't see that much wrong with multitasking. I have done it for years and nothing has happened to me because of it. I haven't lost anything that is important because of it.
That's what you think...
Have you seen your penis lately?
Haha - Actualy like a minute ago while I was pissing on your mom!!
J/k
Quote from: iago on March 22, 2006, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=5263.msg61305#msg61305 date=1143072989]
QuoteIt may affect early market share numbers for Vista, however, as some 33 percent of computers are supposedly sold during this time of year. A holiday launch would have likely resulted in the majority of those computers being installed with Windows Vista.
$10 says that computers sold during the holiday season will have some kind of voucher for free or heavily-discounted version of Windows Vista after release. They've done it before -- I want to say with 98->Me.
98 -> me, aka, "a bad move" :)
This is my preference for Windows OSes in order from most despised to most liked:
98 NT 4.0 3.1 Me 95 2000 XP
As you can see, I think Me is vastly superior to Windows 98, although I think 95 was superior to both.
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Quote from: iago on March 22, 2006, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=5263.msg61305#msg61305 date=1143072989]
QuoteIt may affect early market share numbers for Vista, however, as some 33 percent of computers are supposedly sold during this time of year. A holiday launch would have likely resulted in the majority of those computers being installed with Windows Vista.
$10 says that computers sold during the holiday season will have some kind of voucher for free or heavily-discounted version of Windows Vista after release. They've done it before -- I want to say with 98->Me.
98 -> me, aka, "a bad move" :)
This is my preference for Windows OSes in order from most despised to most liked:
98 NT 4.0 3.1 Me 95 2000 XP
As you can see, I think Me is vastly superior to Windows 98, although I think 95 was superior to both.
Any reason for 98 being at the back? It seems more common to put ME at the back, but I've never used it so I couldn't say.
All code running in PL0
Quote from: iago on March 22, 2006, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=5263.msg61346#msg61346 date=1143081931]
Quote from: iago on March 22, 2006, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=5263.msg61305#msg61305 date=1143072989]
QuoteIt may affect early market share numbers for Vista, however, as some 33 percent of computers are supposedly sold during this time of year. A holiday launch would have likely resulted in the majority of those computers being installed with Windows Vista.
$10 says that computers sold during the holiday season will have some kind of voucher for free or heavily-discounted version of Windows Vista after release. They've done it before -- I want to say with 98->Me.
98 -> me, aka, "a bad move" :)
This is my preference for Windows OSes in order from most despised to most liked:
98 NT 4.0 3.1 Me 95 2000 XP
As you can see, I think Me is vastly superior to Windows 98, although I think 95 was superior to both.
Any reason for 98 being at the back? It seems more common to put ME at the back, but I've never used it so I couldn't say.
Me was marginally more stable than 98 and much more functional than the other three OSes. 98 took all the great things 95 had done and broke them, plain and simple. It grew bugs like athlete's foot; over the course of only a few months a system would become virtually unusable.
I think in general, 3.1 was more usable than NT 4.0, plus you had easy access to real DOS for legacy applications.
2000 brought great strides in both legacy compatibility and moving forward technologically, and IMO XP improved in it.
MyndFyre -- cool. I didn't have the same experience, I found that 98 ran smoother than 95, but they both sucked.
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=5263.msg61360#msg61360 date=1143085462]
All code running in PL0
Isn't that true for all the 9x-based Windowses?
Quote from: iago on March 22, 2006, 11:03:05 PM
MyndFyre -- cool. I didn't have the same experience, I found that 98 ran smoother than 95, but they both sucked.
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=5263.msg61360#msg61360 date=1143085462]
All code running in PL0
Isn't that true for all the 9x-based Windowses?
Yes it is, I just hate all 9x releases in general. ME was alright but it was unstable as they were just pioneering new technologies.
Back on topic-
I find that when I try to multi-task, I accomplish less than I would if I did them consecutively, but indivitually.
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Back on topic-
I find that when I try to multi-task, I accomplish less than I would if I did them consecutively, but indivitually.
I think this merrits the good ol' owl, towelie:
(http://sidoh.dark-wire.net/upload/viewitem.php?id=58)
Hahahaha Sidoh. I know of two people (myself included) that know of the owl in real life. It's flippin' hilarious. Last Saturday I was at my friend's house working on a class presentation on The Odyssey (we got to act :D). My other friend that was in our group said something and the kid who's house we were at was like "O RLY?" and I laughed so hard.
Multitasking is bad for us now. Grrrrreat.. I believe concentrating on many things at once makes it harder to come back and focus on just one thing at a time, even when you want to.
I grew up with a controller in my hand, I kick ass at multitasking and doing both things good, or at least acceptably well.
Quote from: GameSnake on March 24, 2006, 02:30:02 PM
Multitasking is bad for us now. Grrrrreat.. I believe concentrating on many things at once makes it harder to come back and focus on just one thing at a time, even when you want to.
Thats what the article says...