I was just curious if any other schools were doing this. Basically, it's another class. Each student takes turns reading out loud from a book his/her literature circle has chosen to read.
For twenty minutes a day, I get to waste my time reading books that I have no interest in.
Quote from: dark_drake on May 15, 2006, 06:52:54 PM
I was just curious if any other schools were doing this. Basically, it's another class. Each student takes turns reading out loud from a book his/her literature circle has chosen to read.
For twenty minutes a day, I get to waste my time reading books that I have no interest in.
Back in elementary school? Are you with the special kids?
Quote from: Ergot on May 15, 2006, 07:08:47 PM
Back in elementary school? Are you with the special kids?
This is high school.
and, pleez dont maek fuun uv mee, skewl iz harrd.
What do you think? I do trigonometry, but I'm a special kid? I take the AP Calc exam, but I'm a special kid? I take the AP Government exam, but I'm a special kid? No, I'm not with the special kids.
I was just wondering about this because our school's English and critical reading test scores have been going downhill for a few years now, and my school felt that this was the best remedy. In my curiosity, I thought asking the other people on these forums if their schools had implemented a similar program would be a good idea. I merely wanted to see if it was a trend in the U.S. or just Wyoming.
Nope...
I don't see AP English ^_~ You're with the special kids!
While my school has followed equally useless trends, no. I haven't seen this implemented. There have been a few sections in language arts (my freshman year) where kids would read an assigned sentence to the class, but I'm sure you'll agree that was for alternative reasons.
I'm sorry to hear that. This is really stupid, especially when you've far transcended anything that is intended for students at
that point in their intellectual development.
Quote from: Ergot on May 15, 2006, 08:36:22 PM
I don't see AP English ^_~ You're with the special kids!
Probably because the school he goes to doesn't offer AP English. He goes to school in Wyoming, as I hope you've gathered.
Quote from: Ergot on May 15, 2006, 08:36:22 PM
I don't see AP English ^_~ You're with the special kids!
It's Concurrent English here, and, sadly, I'm in it. :P
My middle school does this. Zero Period, or silent reading for 30 minutes.
Towelie was in mine for 7th grade. :)
Quote from: Newby on May 15, 2006, 09:47:02 PM
My middle school does this. Zero Period, or silent reading for 30 minutes.
Towelie was in mine for 7th grade. :)
No, no. This is reading
out loud.
Haha, my school is a D school and we don't have anything close to that here. It would even be an F school, if we didn't have the magnet program here(IB + Health Academy). I had something similar to that in middle school, our class(Gifted Resource), had to read to other people(mainly SLD Reading and some other classes).
My elementary school had it for grades lower then 4.
Poor dark_drake.
My school has terrible MCA (the NCLB test) scores in both reading and math, and we're not forced to do this. Yay for honor roll!
Quote from: dark_drake on May 15, 2006, 07:22:15 PMWhat do you think? I do trigonometry, but I'm a special kid? I take the AP Calc exam, but I'm a special kid? I take the AP Government exam, but I'm a special kid? No, I'm not with the special kids.
I'm automagically exempt from Special Ed by taking two AP programming courses as a sophomore? You seem pretty misinformed, to say the absolute least.
On a side note, thank God no.
Quote from: Joe on May 16, 2006, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on May 15, 2006, 07:22:15 PMWhat do you think? I do trigonometry, but I'm a special kid? I take the AP Calc exam, but I'm a special kid? I take the AP Government exam, but I'm a special kid? No, I'm not with the special kids.
I'm automagically exempt from Special Ed by taking two AP programming courses as a sophomore? You seem pretty misinformed, to say the absolute least.
On a side note, thank God no.
AP Programming != AP Calculus. It's hardly analogous.
There are two AP classes offered to sophomores and I'm taking both, though. I've never seen an LD kid take an AP class, which is what pisses me off - people mix EBD (the angry kids) up with LD (the stupid kids).
Quote from: Joe on May 16, 2006, 10:50:23 PM
I'm automagically exempt from Special Ed by taking two AP programming courses as a sophomore? You seem pretty misinformed, to say the absolute least.
If a special kid was in normal AP Government, AP Calculus, and Concurrent English courses, what business does he have being considered special? It seems as though he can function just as well as everyone else; therefore, he is not special.
Quote from: Joe on May 17, 2006, 08:15:36 AM
There are two AP classes offered to sophomores and I'm taking both, though. I've never seen an LD kid take an AP class, which is what pisses me off - people mix EBD (the angry kids) up with LD (the stupid kids).
It doesn't matter. AP Calculus far transcends almost every other AP class offered.
Learning Disabled != Stupid. There's a huge difference. Stupidity is the absence of intelligence or the stubborness to ignore known consequences. Learning Disabled is some sort of mental incapacity that makes learning one or more subjects difficult. I've known kids that have a really hard time reading/spelling, but excel in math.
Heh. I'm doing ap calculus next year. :P
Quote from: Newby on May 17, 2006, 07:11:29 PM
Heh. I'm doing ap calculus next year. :P
The only advice I have to give is the same advice I was given:
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Learn the material without your calculator first. Understand the ins and outs of everything you learn before you pick up that calculator and let it do everything for you.
It may be a bit more challenging and take a little longer to do your assignments, but knowing all the applications of the derivative and integral make the AP exam so much easier.
Our exam was a joke in terms of difficulty (my school doesn't have AP).
The hardest questions were proving that the area of a sphere is (4/3)*pi*r^3 and the energy it takes to lift a rope off of a cliff given its density and length.
Quote from: Sidoh on May 17, 2006, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: Joe on May 17, 2006, 08:15:36 AM
There are two AP classes offered to sophomores and I'm taking both, though. I've never seen an LD kid take an AP class, which is what pisses me off - people mix EBD (the angry kids) up with LD (the stupid kids).
It doesn't matter. AP Calculus far transcends almost every other AP class offered.
I wouldn't agree with that. To me AP Calculus was probably the easiest AP. It completely depends on your strengths and how the material is taught; for example, I would have found AP Biology considerably more difficult. To many in AP Calculus BC, AP Comp Sci AB or AP Physics C would have seemed more intimidating or difficult.
I would say AP Calculus BC is the most useful course in the AP curriculum (and will help one most in university), although that's a pretty subjective opinion.
With any luck, the school district will toss this program out. Everyone is sick and tired of reading 20 minutes a day from books no one really cares about.
I just feel it was really dumb to force the entire school to do it. If the school district wanted to improve reading skills, why didn't they just have the English courses assign more books to read?
Quote from: Rule on May 17, 2006, 10:05:52 PM
I wouldn't agree with that. To me AP Calculus was probably the easiest AP. It completely depends on your strengths and how the material is taught; for example, I would have found AP Biology considerably more difficult. To many in AP Calculus BC, AP Comp Sci AB or AP Physics C would have seemed more intimidating or difficult.
I would say AP Calculus BC is the most useful course in the AP curriculum (and will help one most in university), although that's a pretty subjective opinion.
Physics is applied calculus. I don't see how you could find it more difficult.
Quote from: Sidoh on May 18, 2006, 01:27:54 AM
Quote from: Rule on May 17, 2006, 10:05:52 PM
I wouldn't agree with that. To me AP Calculus was probably the easiest AP. It completely depends on your strengths and how the material is taught; for example, I would have found AP Biology considerably more difficult. To many in AP Calculus BC, AP Comp Sci AB or AP Physics C would have seemed more intimidating or difficult.
I would say AP Calculus BC is the most useful course in the AP curriculum (and will help one most in university), although that's a pretty subjective opinion.
Physics is applied calculus. I don't see how you could find it more difficult.
Well, take it from someone who works professionally in mathematical physics that I find physics considerably more difficult. There's a lot more to remember, and often there are a lot of tricks, special insights and approximations that are valued in physical problems and aren't really considered in mathematics.
Then again, it depends how your mind works. Like I said, AP Calculus BC was my easiest AP.
Quote from: Rule on May 18, 2006, 11:27:13 PM
Well, take it from someone who works professionally in mathematical physics that I find physics considerably more difficult. There's a lot more to remember, and often there are a lot of tricks, special insights and approximations that are valued in physical problems and aren't really considered in mathematics.
Then again, it depends how your mind works. Like I said, AP Calculus BC was my easiest AP.
What do you mean by "working professionally?" I think it's almost necessary that you provide details when you make those sorts of claims ... :P
That's true, but after taking a year of calculus-based physics, I haven't found a single section difficult once I made an effort to practice the material. We've done conservation laws, newtonian physics, relativity and electromagnetism. We took the final today. I didn't have trouble with a single problem.
I suppose the same is true of Calculus, but unlike Physics, you're almost without fail learning new concepts. Sure, integrals and derivatives become intuitive after practice, but until you've used them, they're sort of exotic compared to other things you've learned in high school.
Quote from: Sidoh on May 18, 2006, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: Rule on May 18, 2006, 11:27:13 PM
Well, take it from someone who works professionally in mathematical physics that I find physics considerably more difficult. There's a lot more to remember, and often there are a lot of tricks, special insights and approximations that are valued in physical problems and aren't really considered in mathematics.
Then again, it depends how your mind works. Like I said, AP Calculus BC was my easiest AP.
What do you mean by "working professionally?" I think it's almost necessary that you provide details when you make those sorts of claims ... :P
I study modern differential geometry with applications to general relativity and computational physics. Most of my work involves determining finite difference schemes to solve and visualize the solutions to time dependent systems of partial differential equations that are analytically insoluable. One application, for example, is in modelling a binary black hole merger.
Calculus is like a mother tongue :P. Seriously though, I think physics in general is a lot harder than math, but some people would disagree with me. I just think there's a lot more to consider in physics.
Quote from: Rule on May 19, 2006, 01:02:33 AM
I study modern differential geometry with applications to general relativity and computational physics. Most of my work involves determining finite difference schemes to solve and visualize the solutions to time dependent systems of partial differential equations that are analytically insoluable. One application, for example, is in modelling a binary black hole merger.
Cool. That's neat.
However,
insoluble means something cannot be dissovled. :P
Quote from: Rule on May 19, 2006, 01:02:33 AM
Calculus is like a mother tongue :P. Seriously though, I think physics in general is a lot harder than math, but some people would disagree with me. I just think there's a lot more to consider in physics.
I suppose so. I think both of them take a lot more intellectual capacity than other AP cources, though. :P
Quote from: Sidoh on May 19, 2006, 01:29:53 AM
However, insoluble means something cannot be dissovled. :P
Hmm,insolu
able is jargon we use sometimes for "cannot be resolved." But I just tried looking it up on dictionary.com, and it's not there. That's pretty weird :x. I've seen it written in books on chaos theory.
It may also surprise some people (who've known me for awhile, like iago) to know that my primary language is not english ;D.
Quote from: Rule on May 19, 2006, 01:40:53 AM
Hmm,insoluable is jargon we use sometimes for "cannot be resolved." But I just tried looking it up on dictionary.com, and it's not there. That's pretty weird :x. I've seen it written in books on chaos theory.
Yeah. It's not a real word. ;p
I know what you meant, but I didn't think the word you used was correct. I made the word itallic because it was misspelled, hehe.
Quote from: Rule on May 19, 2006, 01:02:33 AM
It may also surprise some people (who've known me for awhile, like iago) to know that my primary language is not english ;D.
Right. It's Calculus. :P
Well, if we must be pedantic, 8) :
Quote from: Sidoh on May 19, 2006, 02:01:05 AM
I made the word itallic because it was misspelled, hehe.
italic;)
Quote from: Rule on May 19, 2006, 03:10:26 AM
Well, if we must be pedantic, 8) :
Quote from: Sidoh on May 19, 2006, 02:01:05 AM
I made the word itallic because it was misspelled, hehe.
italic
;)
I never claimed to be good at spelling. :P
At least I don't use misspelled words
out of context! :O