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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: iago on June 05, 2006, 07:29:15 PM

Title: 29 years ago today......
Post by: iago on June 05, 2006, 07:29:15 PM
.... the first Apple II was sold.  That's June 5, 1977. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II#The_original_Apple_II
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Newby on June 05, 2006, 07:36:39 PM
$2638 with 48 KB of RAM. Mmm, mmm.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 07:40:39 PM
Hahaha.

My parents had a Apple IIe.  It was the first computer I used.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 08:53:59 PM
appels suxorz
but i think that was my first computer
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: CrAz3D on June 05, 2006, 09:03:02 PM
My first was an AppleII GS...we threw it away like 2 years ago.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 08:53:59 PM
appels suxorz
but i think that was my first computer

No.  Apple makes excelent computers.  Personally, I don't like their Operating System, which is one reason I don't want to use them.  I'd still much rather have a PC for my purposes, but Apples definitely don't "suxorz." ;P
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 09:14:38 PM


No.  Apple makes excelent computers.  Personally, I don't like their Operating System, which is one reason I don't want to use them.  I'd still much rather have a PC for my purposes, but Apples definitely don't "suxorz." ;P

well yeah and no.....
i like how the apple handles but i hate their design of a 1 click mouse
and their design of the monitor and stuff
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 09:22:30 PM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 09:19:20 PM
well yeah and no.....
i like how the apple handles but i hate their design of a 1 click mouse
and their design of the monitor and stuff

Those are silly reasons.  Despite Apple's obvious attempts at appearance, a computer is designed to be functional, not to be a pretty desk ornament.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: MyndFyre on June 05, 2006, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 09:19:20 PM
well yeah and no.....
i like how the apple handles but i hate their design of a 1 click mouse
and their design of the monitor and stuff
So use a fucking USB mouse that you can buy at the store for like $15.

If I didn't want a tablet, my next notebook would definitely be an Intel Core Duo Mac.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: rabbit on June 05, 2006, 09:29:30 PM
One of my problems with Macs is that they are so much harder to customize and upgrade than PCs.  Everything is shut away and practically deadbolted to the frame.  I also don't like how closed the system is compare to Windows or Linux.  I much prefer Windows simply for gaming, but I'm enjoying my Slack box.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: rabbit on June 05, 2006, 09:29:30 PM
One of my problems with Macs is that they are so much harder to customize and upgrade than PCs.  Everything is shut away and practically deadbolted to the frame.  I also don't like how closed the system is compare to Windows or Linux.  I much prefer Windows simply for gaming, but I'm enjoying my Slack box.

i agree with this guy

o yeah and i know you can use a regular mouse
but im not going to bring a mouse from my house to school just to do a lame ass project or something
i will never buy an apple computer!
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 10:12:50 PM
By the time one component needs upgraded, it's pretty likely the whole machine needs upgraded (if you buy a good computer to begin with).  This isn't universally true, but it's a pretty good model.  I agree that is a definite downside, but that same fact also provides a good aspect of the mac: inherent compatibility.

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 10:05:19 PM
i agree with this guy

o yeah and i know you can use a regular mouse
but im not going to bring a mouse from my house to school just to do a lame ass project or something
i will never buy an apple computer!

If you ever go into work with graphic or audio editing, I'm nearly positive you will.  Like I said, Macs have their purpose.  For at least the two things I just listed, they are noticeably superior to the PC.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 10:12:50 PM


If you ever go into work with graphic or audio editing, I'm nearly positive you will.  Like I said, Macs have their purpose.  For at least the two things I just listed, they are noticeably superior to the PC.

yeah i guess so but i really never used mac the only time i do is at my school
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on June 05, 2006, 10:24:15 PM
yeah i guess so but i really never used mac the only time i do is at my school

Here's a helpful hint: don't judge what you don't understand. :)

I don't mean to be rude, but it's a good rule.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: GameSnake on June 05, 2006, 10:26:50 PM
I don't understand how sidoh couldve used a apple IIe, and be the first computer he used.
Apple 2 required some programming knowledge in order to use, and it came out in 1983.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: TeHFoOoL on June 05, 2006, 10:28:26 PM
Macs are uber safe too. ;O
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Super_X on June 05, 2006, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: TeHFoOoL on June 05, 2006, 10:28:26 PM
Macs are uber safe too. ;O
Just cause no one writes viruses for them 'cause no one uses them.  Macs are really just trendy wall art.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: TeHFoOoL on June 05, 2006, 10:34:13 PM
Blah, I wouldn't agree. Linux and Windows are probably more popular for home use, but a ton of schools use macs.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Super_X on June 05, 2006, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: TeHFoOoL on June 05, 2006, 10:34:13 PM
Blah, I wouldn't agree. Linux and Windows are probably more popular for home use, but a ton of schools use macs.
If you didn't agree, you're wrong. Die.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: GameSnake on June 05, 2006, 10:26:50 PM
I don't understand how sidoh couldve used a apple IIe, and be the first computer he used.
Apple 2 required some programming knowledge in order to use, and it came out in 1983.

I have parents who helped me learn, nubcake.  I'm pretty sure you have a brain.  Use it.

In any case, it wasn't an Apple IIe.  It was an Apple II GS.  I thought it was Apple IIe because there's a graveyard of them at my school.  The name was much more prominent in my mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_iigs

After seeing the picture, I'm nearly positive that was it.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: deadly7 on June 05, 2006, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 10:12:50 PM
If you ever go into work with graphic or audio editing, I'm nearly positive you will.  Like I said, Macs have their purpose.  For at least the two things I just listed, they are noticeably superior to the PC.
Not really.  Without AltiVec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltiVec), Macs have no real advantage over PCs, and you can have the same specs on PCs that you can Macs.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on June 05, 2006, 11:08:40 PM
Not really.  Without AltiVec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltiVec), Macs have no real advantage over PCs, and you can have the same specs on PCs that you can Macs.

.. you are really, really good at annoying me.

As I've stated, inherent compatability is definitely an advantage.  Also, if that's all that is keeping PC's from surpassing Macs in every realm, why the fuck don't they implement it?
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Newby on June 05, 2006, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: TeHFoOoL on June 05, 2006, 10:34:13 PM
Blah, I wouldn't agree. Linux and Windows are probably more popular for home use, but a ton of schools use macs.

Linux? Popular for home use!

Hah!

Linux is strong on the server. That's about it.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: deadly7 on June 06, 2006, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on June 05, 2006, 11:13:44 PM
As I've stated, inherent compatability is definitely an advantage.  Also, if that's all that is keeping PC's from surpassing Macs in every realm, why the fuck don't they implement it?
Because IBM developed the processors that used AltiVec, and they were never up to speed with the processors used on the x86 architecture.  That and the x86 architecture doesn't allow for that extra cycle that carries that information.
Title: Re: 29 years ago today......
Post by: Sidoh on June 06, 2006, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on June 06, 2006, 04:08:35 PM
Because IBM developed the processors that used AltiVec, and they were never up to speed with the processors used on the x86 architecture.  That and the x86 architecture doesn't allow for that extra cycle that carries that information.

Too bad IBM failed, huh?  They failed for a reason.

If that was the only reason Macs had any superiority, they would have at least released a model that provided the same supremacy on said processes.