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Wasn't it last month they were saying how they have a long way to go? Heh..
*Checks Azureus*
Hmm, they must suck.
Oh wait, this is the RIAA.
They finally figured out it was impossible, and decided to cut their losses. Instead of admitting defeat, they claimed victory
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
They finally figured out it was impossible, and decided to cut their losses. Instead of admitting defeat, they claimed victory
Exactly. Expect the same thing to happen with the "War on Terror" and "War on Drugs", eventually.
Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
They finally figured out it was impossible, and decided to cut their losses. Instead of admitting defeat, they claimed victory
Exactly. Expect the same thing to happen with the "War on Terror" and "War on Drugs", eventually.
Perhaps the war on terror, but not the war on drugs. There are too many people who would bitch and piss and moan if the government just said "fuck it, go fuck yourselves up."
The problem with the US government right now is that it's trying to incorporate everything and everyone. That's too many thins. We're a melting pot, not a mosaic.
Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
They finally figured out it was impossible, and decided to cut their losses. Instead of admitting defeat, they claimed victory
Exactly. Expect the same thing to happen with the "War on Terror" and "War on Drugs", eventually.
Except with the War on Terror, people will actually believe we won. Nobody believes the RIAA. :)
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Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
They finally figured out it was impossible, and decided to cut their losses. Instead of admitting defeat, they claimed victory
Exactly. Expect the same thing to happen with the "War on Terror" and "War on Drugs", eventually.
Perhaps the war on terror, but not the war on drugs. There are too many people who would bitch and piss and moan if the government just said "fuck it, go fuck yourselves up."
The problem with the US government right now is that it's trying to incorporate everything and everyone. That's too many thins. We're a melting pot, not a mosaic.
They already know the War on Drugs is impossible to win, its just career suicide to say so. The War on p2p is impossible, the War on Terror IS possible.
Quote from: GameSnake on June 13, 2006, 06:32:04 PM
They already know the War on Drugs is impossible to win, its just career suicide to say so. The War on p2p is impossible, the War on Terror IS possible.
As long as I can hear it or see it, I can copy it.
That should be the catch phrase for (music) piracy supporters worldwide.
We're going to win the war on terror. Highly improbable the most powerful individual army on the planet will lose to a bunch of emo-arabs with rpgs.
Emo Arabs... ROFL.
If they cut themselves, why can't they cut their ugly beards off?
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We're going to win the war on terror. Highly improbable the most powerful individual army on the planet will lose to a bunch of emo-arabs with rpgs.
Dude, they've played "America's Army." They know all of our strategies!
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We're going to win the war on terror. Highly improbable the most powerful individual army on the planet will lose to a bunch of emo-arabs with rpgs.
That's pretty much what happened in Viet Nam.
It's like software engineering: in some cases, throwing more bodies at a problem doesn't solve it. See my signature.
Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 07:06:10 PM
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We're going to win the war on terror. Highly improbable the most powerful individual army on the planet will lose to a bunch of emo-arabs with rpgs.
That's pretty much what happened in Viet Nam.
It's like software engineering: in some cases, throwing more bodies at a problem doesn't solve it. See my signature.
We can win out by force, in Vietnam we were crippled and we could only bomb select cites chosen by Washington. The combined guerilla tactics and dense jungle is what made the US pull out, not to mention the growing lack of popularity for the war.
In Iraq they had Hussein and his sons / henchmen financing insurgency, we caught/killed them. We killed the other Al-quada leader that financed them and organized attacks. When we catch Bin Laden it will be the straw that broke the camels back. Al-Quada will collapse. Terrorism however will not be eliminated, this is why the war does not stop with Iraq. We vowed to exterminate every last bit of terrorism on the planet and goddamn we're going to do itl
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
uhm, no. If we didnt do anything to try & prevent more attacks we'd be DUMB AS HELL. People aren't running in circles right now like they were on 9/11, we're just living more cautiously
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
...and by what incredibly twisted logic do you think that?
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
I don't think the terrorists have won, but the fact that everybody is scared of terrorists shows that they're winning. If the government had quietly fought against terrorists without getting the people all riled up, then the terrorists would be losing. Of course, without the threat of terrorists, people might realize what a lousy job their government is doing... :P
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In Iraq they had Hussein and his sons / henchmen financing insurgency, we caught/killed them. We killed the other Al-quada leader that financed them and organized attacks. When we catch Bin Laden it will be the straw that broke the camels back. Al-Quada will collapse. Terrorism however will not be eliminated, this is why the war does not stop with Iraq. We vowed to exterminate every last bit of terrorism on the planet and goddamn we're going to do itl
What happens if American citizens try to rise up and overthrow the government? Will the US declare war on itself again?
If the war on terror is declared victorious (I have my doubt that it will be), the government will be force to find something/someone else to blame for its problems. See also: 1984
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Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
...and by what incredibly twisted logic do you think that?
The point of terrorism is to disrupt and scare. The War on Terrorism diverts a large portion of our time to hunting down terrorists and really freaks out a lot of Americans. If we didn't have full press spreads about it every day, the terrorists would not have achieved their goal of changing our country and scaring our citizens. They wanted to screw with us, and that's exactly what they did. They win.
People rising up against the government (in the US) are assumed traitors until they win. Then they are heroes for liberating an oppresive government.
We've never declared war on ourselves, we declared war on the Confederate States, a nation which suceeded from the united states.
What do you mean blame for it's problems? I see nothing wrong with the way my government is handling anything. The way we've handled the entire terrorist situation is model, it's the way every incident regarding terrorism should be handled. Heighten security and kill them.
Would you propose (so that we don't show them we're scared) we open the borders to the united states? How about drop airport security? Of course you don't because then you'd probably cry about how we're not secure enough blahblah. It's a never ending story and anyone who doesn't live in the US is never happy with anything we do. Oh well, too damn bad for you.
When the same thing that happened to Madrid happens to other countries maybe they will see it the way of the United States. You know, since Madrid had no previous quarrel with the terrorists. These people do it to spread fear. They don't do it in all part because we're attacking them. They find a target with a high death rate and attack it. It's how they think.
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 09:28:10 PM
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Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
...and by what incredibly twisted logic do you think that?
The point of terrorism is to disrupt and scare. The War on Terrorism diverts a large portion of our time to hunting down terrorists and really freaks out a lot of Americans. If we didn't have full press spreads about it every day, the terrorists would not have achieved their goal of changing our country and scaring our citizens. They wanted to screw with us, and that's exactly what they did. They win.
Yea that really beats us killing them. I'd say the one who kills the most a-rabs wins. We win.
Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: rabbit on June 13, 2006, 08:06:49 PM
By initiating a "War on Terror", we conceded victory to the terrorists. I hate to break it to you, Warrior, but we already lost.
I don't think the terrorists have won, but the fact that everybody is scared of terrorists shows that they're winning. If the government had quietly fought against terrorists without getting the people all riled up, then the terrorists would be losing. Of course, without the threat of terrorists, people might realize what a lousy job their government is doing... :P
Oh, yeah, quietly fight them...like by phone tapping & such...? Yeah, what happens when reporters & such leak sensitive info like that?
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Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 07:06:10 PM
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We're going to win the war on terror. Highly improbable the most powerful individual army on the planet will lose to a bunch of emo-arabs with rpgs.
That's pretty much what happened in Viet Nam.
It's like software engineering: in some cases, throwing more bodies at a problem doesn't solve it. See my signature.
We can win out by force, in Vietnam we were crippled and we could only bomb select cites chosen by Washington. The combined guerilla tactics and dense jungle is what made the US pull out, not to mention the growing lack of popularity for the war.
In Iraq they had Hussein and his sons / henchmen financing insurgency, we caught/killed them. We killed the other Al-quada leader that financed them and organized attacks. When we catch Bin Laden it will be the straw that broke the camels back. Al-Quada will collapse. Terrorism however will not be eliminated, this is why the war does not stop with Iraq. We vowed to exterminate every last bit of terrorism on the planet and goddamn we're going to do itl
Have you read Sun Tzu's 'Art of War' ? I highly recommend you do before claming that we are winning the war on terrorism because according to Sun Tzu, we are getting clowned ;)
Quote from: unTactical on June 14, 2006, 07:19:35 PM
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Quote from: iago on June 13, 2006, 07:06:10 PM
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We're going to win the war on terror. Highly improbable the most powerful individual army on the planet will lose to a bunch of emo-arabs with rpgs.
That's pretty much what happened in Viet Nam.
It's like software engineering: in some cases, throwing more bodies at a problem doesn't solve it. See my signature.
We can win out by force, in Vietnam we were crippled and we could only bomb select cites chosen by Washington. The combined guerilla tactics and dense jungle is what made the US pull out, not to mention the growing lack of popularity for the war.
In Iraq they had Hussein and his sons / henchmen financing insurgency, we caught/killed them. We killed the other Al-quada leader that financed them and organized attacks. When we catch Bin Laden it will be the straw that broke the camels back. Al-Quada will collapse. Terrorism however will not be eliminated, this is why the war does not stop with Iraq. We vowed to exterminate every last bit of terrorism on the planet and goddamn we're going to do itl
Have you read Sun Tzu's 'Art of War' ? I highly recommend you do before claming that we are winning the war on terrorism because according to Sun Tzu, we are getting clowned ;)
Then he is a fool.
Quote from: unTactical on June 14, 2006, 07:19:35 PM
Have you read Sun Tzu's 'Art of War' ? I highly recommend you do before claming that we are winning the war on terrorism because according to Sun Tzu, we are getting clowned ;)
What I find most amazing is that he wasn't even alive during the war on terror. ;)
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Quote from: unTactical on June 14, 2006, 07:19:35 PM
Have you read Sun Tzu's 'Art of War' ? I highly recommend you do before claming that we are winning the war on terrorism because according to Sun Tzu, we are getting clowned ;)
What I find most amazing is that he wasn't even alive during the war on terror. ;)
It doesn't make his basic principles of wars inapplicable to modern warfare. As iago semi-pointed out, using Sun Tzu like tactics is how we were 'defeated' in Vietnam.