At least according to the Pentagon. Clicky! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5100828.stm?ls)
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Instruction 1332.38 on disabilities in the US military classes being gay under the same heading as mental retardation, personality disorders and alcoholism.
LOL
Wow. That's completely rediculous.
Quote from: dark_drake on June 21, 2006, 01:06:51 AM
At least according to the Pentagon. Clicky! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5100828.stm?ls)
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Instruction 1332.38 on disabilities in the US military classes being gay under the same heading as mental retardation, personality disorders and alcoholism.
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
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I forget his last name, but a comedian on (dun dun dun) Comedy Central Presents talked about this:
QuoteMan..If I were in the army, I'd want to be in the 'All Gay Platoon'. Think about it. If you're stuck in a fox hole, wouldn't you want the guy you're with to love your ass as much as you do?
It's like [high pitched voice] "O MY GOD!! THEY SHOT LUIS!!!???" *Rambo sound effects*
Homer: Here's a question that's crossed out.
Navy Officer: Well... Due to recent presidential order, we're not allowed to ask that particular question.
Homer: Wait, I think I could make it out. Are you a homos...
Navy Officer: For God's sake, don't answer that, I could go to jail!
Homer: But I'm not a homo...
Navy Officer: (covering his ears) Lalalalalala... I am not listening. Lalalalalala... (leaves)
Homer: Hehe... Nice fella. I wonder whether he is gay?
Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 08:16:24 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on June 21, 2006, 01:06:51 AM
At least according to the Pentagon. Clicky! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5100828.stm?ls)
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Instruction 1332.38 on disabilities in the US military classes being gay under the same heading as mental retardation, personality disorders and alcoholism.
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
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I forget his last name, but a comedian on (dun dun dun) Comedy Central Presents talked about this:
QuoteMan..If I were in the army, I'd want to be in the 'All Gay Platoon'. Think about it. If you're stuck in a fox hole, wouldn't you want the guy you're with to love your ass as much as you do?
It's like [high pitched voice] "O MY GOD!! THEY SHOT LUIS!!!???" *Rambo sound effects*
Pablo Francisco?
Quote from: Quik on June 21, 2006, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 08:16:24 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on June 21, 2006, 01:06:51 AM
At least according to the Pentagon. Clicky! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5100828.stm?ls)
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Instruction 1332.38 on disabilities in the US military classes being gay under the same heading as mental retardation, personality disorders and alcoholism.
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
[edit]
I forget his last name, but a comedian on (dun dun dun) Comedy Central Presents talked about this:
QuoteMan..If I were in the army, I'd want to be in the 'All Gay Platoon'. Think about it. If you're stuck in a fox hole, wouldn't you want the guy you're with to love your ass as much as you do?
It's like [high pitched voice] "O MY GOD!! THEY SHOT LUIS!!!???" *Rambo sound effects*
Pablo Francisco?
Pablo Francisco != Luis Something
Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 09:47:14 AM
Quote from: Quik on June 21, 2006, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 08:16:24 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on June 21, 2006, 01:06:51 AM
At least according to the Pentagon. Clicky! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5100828.stm?ls)
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Instruction 1332.38 on disabilities in the US military classes being gay under the same heading as mental retardation, personality disorders and alcoholism.
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
[edit]
I forget his last name, but a comedian on (dun dun dun) Comedy Central Presents talked about this:
QuoteMan..If I were in the army, I'd want to be in the 'All Gay Platoon'. Think about it. If you're stuck in a fox hole, wouldn't you want the guy you're with to love your ass as much as you do?
It's like [high pitched voice] "O MY GOD!! THEY SHOT LUIS!!!???" *Rambo sound effects*
Pablo Francisco?
Pablo Francisco != Luis Something
Hrm, remembered that from Pablo Francisco. Look it up on comedycentral.com
maybe not a mental disease, just a chemical imbalance that can be fixed?
Even if it was, who are you to say it is an "imbalance"? Couldn't we say that homosexuals are normal, it just so happens that the majority of the population of "chemically imbalanced"?
Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 08:16:24 AM
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
rabbit, no, we haven't. We haven't established whether it's genetic (nature vs. nurture), and if it's not genetic, whether it's nurture vs. choice.
We haven't established these things because there have not been controlled, conclusive studies about them. Show me the university study where they tried to raise someone gay, or they cross-bred gays and lesbians for several generations to see if they became gay.
Quote from: Deuce on June 21, 2006, 01:12:05 PM
Even if it was, who are you to say it is an "imbalance"? Couldn't we say that homosexuals are normal, it just so happens that the majority of the population of "chemically imbalanced"?
If it was a naturally-occurring imbalance, this tendency naturally selects against the homosexual population. Evolutionarily speaking, it is abnormal.
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Quote from: Deuce on June 21, 2006, 01:12:05 PM
Even if it was, who are you to say it is an "imbalance"? Couldn't we say that homosexuals are normal, it just so happens that the majority of the population of "chemically imbalanced"?
If it was a naturally-occurring imbalance, this tendency naturally selects against the homosexual population. Evolutionarily speaking, it is abnormal.
Thats what I'm getting at. It is abnormal. It impedes society in a way.
I personally believe its nature's way of saying "you're all fucking too much". That or it's God toying with the ultra-conservatives.
Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 01:35:13 PM
I personally believe its nature's way of saying "you're all fucking too much". That or it's God toying with the ultra-conservatives.
...maybe AIDS & Hitler was that too?
No..AIDS was meant for monkies, and then some weirdo went and did a monkey. Hitler was evil. That's all there was to him. Hitler didn't directly block reproduction, so much as prevent/extinguish life. There's a difference.
ok, but AIDS still count cuz it happened to us.
Okay. But it wasn't initially meant for us, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten it from monkies, we would have just gotten it (like the plague).
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Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 08:16:24 AM
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
rabbit, no, we haven't. We haven't established whether it's genetic (nature vs. nurture), and if it's not genetic, whether it's nurture vs. choice.
We haven't established these things because there have not been controlled, conclusive studies about them. Show me the university study where they tried to raise someone gay, or they cross-bred gays and lesbians for several generations to see if they became gay.
Find me a single gay person who says he chose to be gay.
Better yet, watch a movie of two guys screwing each other, and try to masturbate to it. How can you say that some normal person (like you) could CHOOSE to find that appealing?
Perhaps the genetics vs. nurture is unsolved, but I'm convinced beyond any doubt that a guy can't choose to get hard by looking at a guy's ass.
Quote from: iago on June 21, 2006, 01:47:57 PM
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Quote from: rabbit on June 21, 2006, 08:16:24 AM
Yeah we sort of established that the government is stupid and wrong and that homosexuality isn't a disease. But nice find. You should see if GLAAD (http://www.glaad.org/) knows about it.
rabbit, no, we haven't. We haven't established whether it's genetic (nature vs. nurture), and if it's not genetic, whether it's nurture vs. choice.
We haven't established these things because there have not been controlled, conclusive studies about them. Show me the university study where they tried to raise someone gay, or they cross-bred gays and lesbians for several generations to see if they became gay.
Find me a single gay person who says he chose to be gay.
The problem with this is that is that you cannot rely on honest self-report, particlarly about something so stigmatized.
Quote from: iago on June 21, 2006, 01:47:57 PM
Better yet, watch a movie of two guys screwing each other, and try to masturbate to it. How can you say that some normal person (like you) could CHOOSE to find that appealing?
Perhaps the genetics vs. nurture is unsolved, but I'm convinced beyond any doubt that a guy can't choose to get hard by looking at a guy's ass.
Take a look at, for example, Craigslist personal ads under the section "man for man" or "casual encounters" of any big city. A lot of the titles, even, say that guys are looking to take care of a straight man (giving him a BJ) - particularly married ones, probably looking to avoid STDs. I generally find this repulsive, correct. But I imagine the sex-deprived-enough man (Newby, for example) might just give in one day to get head (rumors suggest this might have already happened. Yes, I like to pick on him when he's out of town and can't read this). He doesn't really care for it, but hey, they guy said he'd put on some straight porn and he could just relax.
Now, the blowee (receiver) has just had a very powerful pleasure response associated with the oral-sexual stimulus provided by another man. So the next time he's looking to get head, he might be a lot less opposed to it. Eventually, this may become conditioned for a person to find it pleasurable, or to associate gay sexual acts with sexual pleasure, thereby yes - having become gay (or bi) by choice.
My sister had a friend that came out, didnt like dudes & went straight...maybe he was just curious.
I think its more of a nuture choice that makes people gay or not...not a moments spur "I'm gay now!"