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Title: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on July 23, 2006, 11:41:14 am
Since this  search (http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+media&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) says that audio is a form of media, I will be posting this here =P.

Anyone here know of Sigur Ros? It's an icelandic band whose name translates to "Victory Rose." Their music is incredible, but not a lot of people know of it and a lot of people don't appreciate it. I highly recommend getting their music and if you do you have to get a whole album because their songs in each album are all connected and they flow and transition very well. I could go even further to say this of their albums...

Anyways, for those of you who know about them, I'd be happy to discuss their music and for those of you who are listening to it for the first time, what do you think?
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: leet_muffin on July 23, 2006, 02:25:48 pm
Sounds interesting, currently looking for some.


EDIT: found some. Not really my style, but eh. If I listened to alot of this, my answers on your sleeping survey would severely change.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on July 23, 2006, 04:56:46 pm
lol!

The music can be very relaxing but that's not all it is. I'd recommend listening to songs from the album Takk..., especially the songs Takk, Glosoli, Hoppipolla, and Mea Blonsair. I'd also recommend the song Von but not the album Von =P.

I'd imagine that you listened to what the band calls the brackets album (entitled "()" without the quotes). Every song is untitled in that album. Kinda funny. Is this what you listened to?
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: leet_muffin on July 23, 2006, 05:58:05 pm
Dunno, was simply the first thing up on Youtube.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 14, 2006, 01:22:11 pm
Free legal Sigur Ros music on Sigur Ros's website!

Everyone listen to this song! (http://www.hi.is/~bjornbjo/sigur_ros-vidrar_vel.mp3) It's absolutely beautiful!!! (If you don't like it at first then give it a chance and listen the whole way through.)
If you want to listen to more, there's a bunch more for free here (http://sigur-ros.co.uk/media). I suggest "von" and "staralfur" after listening to the above song.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 14, 2006, 11:13:00 pm
You newbs. Get off your lazy asses and listen and respond. ;)
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Sidoh on August 15, 2006, 12:48:11 am
It's mediocre.  It's too timid for my taste.  I don't mind it at all and it is exceptionally beautiful in some parts, but it's not something I would listen to repetitively for days on end.  I actually love orchestrated music; it just has to be the correct kind to suit my taste.  For example, the soundtrack for Children of Dune composed by Brian Tyler is excellent, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 15, 2006, 10:15:12 am
Sidoh: Well, glad you tried it and thought about it and responded. That music, and "Vidrar" in particular, makes me love this world and all the people in it. I didn't know music so beautiful existed. Everyone should have music that they feel that way about, whether it's Sigur Ros or not =p.

I'll try out Children of Dune btw.

Everyone else: Come on you lazy bums! Try it and respond.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Sidoh on August 15, 2006, 01:38:31 pm
I didn't know music so beautiful existed.

....... (-_(\
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 16, 2006, 11:27:51 am
By the way, when you listen to Vidrar make sure to turn the volume way up.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Lobo on August 21, 2006, 11:27:41 pm
Sigur Ros is quite amazing if I say so myself. I have been listening to them for a while.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 26, 2006, 05:28:08 pm
* adds Lobo to his buddy list *

Yeah, Sigur Ros is amazing. The first time I listened to them I was like "wtf this is friggin' weird" but then I kept listening to them and just became amazed. They seriously do affect my mood.

They also have a wide variety of music. They have less "timid" music (e.g., the albums Von and Ba Ba Ti Ki Di Do) although I don't like that adjective describing  Sigur Ros. Every album of theirs is very different, and each album is very cohesive: oftentimes you are listening to the album and not a particular song. Take the album "Takk..." for instance. The songs Takk, Glosoli, Hoppipolla, and Mea Blonsair flow together very well, as is evident in the transition from song to song.

I also think of them as artistic. I'll just talk about one song to try to convince you to listen to them.

The song:
http://www.hi.is/~bjornbjo/sigur_ros-vidrar_vel.mp3

So it starts out like nails on glass for like 30 secs. Well, maybe not quite, but sorta like that. Why? Well, they let you take your own meaning from that. When the piano melody starts up I think of a butterfly flying out from underneath a pile of manure. Good spawning from a world of bad. etc. etc.

Then the piano melody goes for a little while and then a different class of instruments are added later which keep it interesting and they go on for a little while and then it builds up... and I feel like I'm in heaven =p.

And then the ending is also artistic, not in the same sense as objective musical beauty but in the sense of poetry. The exceptionally beautiful music that spawns from the soft, consistent piano melody, only lasts for such a short while. And then it gets slaughtered by instruments screwing up and what you'd imagine when a band collapses on stage. This isn't a recording of live music, so you know it's not that. And then it ends all suddenly with the violin. It's like they're teasing you.

And it's interesting how the beautiful melody comes from the piano and the violin makes the last note that ends it.

Anyways, you can take your own meaning from this song. I think it's objectively beautiful and subjectively poetic. And I think this song and that description is an accurate representation of the band.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Sidoh on August 27, 2006, 04:25:56 am
Since beauty is a completely opinionated term, how can you claim that this song is "objectively beautiful?"  That seems very much like an oxymoron to me. :P
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 28, 2006, 10:33:12 am
I don't think beauty is a completely opinionated term. For instance, we all saw Kaleeko's pics and we all think she's beautiful.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Sidoh on August 28, 2006, 11:00:42 am
I don't think beauty is a completely opinionated term. For instance, we all saw Kaleeko's pics and we all think she's beautiful.

I don't think there's much of a gray area between objective and subjective terms.

Just because an oppinion is largely agreed on by other people doesn't mean that it becomes "pseudo-objective."  Most males in the US like football, but that doesn't mean that "FOOTBALL IS AWESOME!!!!!"
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Ender on August 28, 2006, 11:22:18 am
Well, I was talking about beauty, not football. I think beauty is somewhat objective and somewhat subjective. For instance, there are certain paintings and music and other works of art that are successful because they are thought to be beautiful by experts in that field.

Whether or not beauty has an objective measure is a deep philosophical issue. There have been experiments where they show a newborn baby a picture of a woman deemed beautiful by society and a woman deemed ugly by society. One of my teachers told me that the results of these experiments turned out that the baby's pupil enlarged more over the beautiful woman, although whether the results are statistically significant is another matter.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: TeHFoOoL on September 19, 2006, 10:00:27 pm
I was turned onto this music through a friend in the Netherlands.. We were playing Worms Armaggedon. :P

I like it, but I can take only a limited amount of the calmness.
Title: Re: Sigur Ros
Post by: Sidoh on September 19, 2006, 10:14:35 pm
Well, I was talking about beauty, not football. I think beauty is somewhat objective and somewhat subjective. For instance, there are certain paintings and music and other works of art that are successful because they are thought to be beautiful by experts in that field.

You nullified any objectivity contained in the word "beauty" by saying "[...] thought to be beautiful by experts in that field."  It doesn't matter if it is popularly agreed upon or if "experts in the field" believe that it's attractive.  There are a large number of experts in the field of music, but it is obvious that not all of them consider some of their coleagues music "beautiful."  For example, I highly doubt that Bach would have found Slayer's music beautiful.  The football example was obviously an analogy.  It isn't necessary for analogous statements to have material connection to the subject they are compared to.

Whether or not beauty has an objective measure is a deep philosophical issue. There have been experiments where they show a newborn baby a picture of a woman deemed beautiful by society and a woman deemed ugly by society. One of my teachers told me that the results of these experiments turned out that the baby's pupil enlarged more over the beautiful woman, although whether the results are statistically significant is another matter.

Not really.  Beauty is very much opinionated.  It is nonsense to break the word "beautiful" into constituent meanings and classify them as objective or subjective.

Also, just because babies are incapable of expressing their feelings does not mean that they don't have opinions.