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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: dark_drake on July 23, 2006, 07:04:32 PM

Title: Question...
Post by: dark_drake on July 23, 2006, 07:04:32 PM
After reading that other thread where Sidoh quoted Animal Farm:
QuoteAll animals are created equal, some are just more equal.
or something like that, I thought:

Are all people really created equal?
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: leet_muffin on July 23, 2006, 07:15:46 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on July 23, 2006, 07:04:32 PM
After reading that other thread where Sidoh quoted Animal Farm:
QuoteAll animals are created equal, some are just more equal.
or something like that, I thought:

Are all people really created equal?

Hmm, according to Darwin's theories, there will be variance within a species... so if we're talking about physical equality, no.

Title: Re: Question...
Post by: Sidoh on July 23, 2006, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on July 23, 2006, 07:04:32 PM
Are all people really created equal?

Equal in what context?  If it's some sort of physical or mental property, of course not.  Isn't that blatantly obvious?

However, assigning people rights relative to their physical or mental qualities by default is foolish.  There is no reasonable evaluation that can determine one persons' productiveness, so it makes much more sense to give every person under the same flag the same set of rights, privileges and laws.

Quote from: leet_muffin on July 23, 2006, 07:15:46 PM
Hmm, according to Darwin's theories, there will be variance within a species... so if we're talking about physical equality, no.

How about according to common sense?  Look around you.  People have different heights, body builds, hair colors, arm lengths, weights, etc.
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: leet_muffin on July 23, 2006, 07:53:06 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on July 23, 2006, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on July 23, 2006, 07:15:46 PM
Hmm, according to Darwin's theories, there will be variance within a species... so if we're talking about physical equality, no.

How about according to common sense?  Look around you.  People have different heights, body builds, hair colors, arm lengths, weights, etc.
That, too. =)
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: MyndFyre on July 23, 2006, 08:51:21 PM
Political theorists have two primary concepts of "equality" to which this refers: equality of opportunity and equality of outcome or result.

Socialism is based on the equality-of-result idea.  Everyone receives an equal share of society's triumphs; socialism also recognizes that some cannot contribute, and in varying degrees of socialism those people are either accounted for or left to fend for themselves.  In contrast, a capitalist society (generally) emphasizes equality of opportunity, in that everyone has the opportunity for *whatever*, but they are not guaranteed even the basics of survival.
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: Newby on July 23, 2006, 11:42:35 PM
All people aren't created equal, because I'm so much more awesome than everybody else.

No, not everyone is created equally.
Title: Re: Question...
Post by: d&q on July 24, 2006, 06:51:19 PM
If you define equality as 'equally deserving', then I believe all people are created equal. However, can can quickly change.