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Title: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: CrAz3D on July 26, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/26/yates.trial.ap/index.html

hmm, I know some people that say she should hang, I think I agree pretty much.

She killed her 5 kids, if she really is bonckers (sp?) then she is just a drain on society while in the nut house.  If she ever gets out of there what's to say she won't go off again?

Anyway, what do y'all think about her not getting time?
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: leet_muffin on July 26, 2006, 07:57:23 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on July 26, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/26/yates.trial.ap/index.html

hmm, I know some people that say she should hang, I think I agree pretty much.

She killed her 5 kids, if she really is bonckers (sp?) then she is just a drain on society while in the nut house.  If she ever gets out of there what's to say she won't go off again?

Anyway, what do y'all think about her not getting time?

It's a load of crap IMO. "not guilty due to insanity" should be "guilty due to insanity."
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: Rule on July 26, 2006, 08:29:13 PM
Isn't anyone who does these sort of things not in a good state of mind?
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: dark_drake on July 26, 2006, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Rule on July 26, 2006, 08:29:13 PM
Isn't anyone who does these sort of things not in a good state of mind?
What about hitmen and assassins? dun dun dunnnn
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: Rule on July 26, 2006, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on July 26, 2006, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Rule on July 26, 2006, 08:29:13 PM
Isn't anyone who does these sort of things not in a good state of mind?
What about hitmen and assassins? dun dun dunnnn

Including them.
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: CrAz3D on July 26, 2006, 09:02:59 PM
I think they're all off...some of them off in different ways.  Maybe this lady didnt understand/know what she was doing...maybe she was on drugs & thought her kids were threats (I heard story of a dude that killed his g/f cause he was hallucinating).

Hitmen, they just dont have "a heart"
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: Rule on July 26, 2006, 09:29:46 PM
I haven't read into this particular situation, but it isn't uncommon for someone who has committed murder to plead insanity.  My problem with such a general plead is that a majority of people who commit such acts are indeed insane, but that doesn't make them less of a threat to society.   On the other hand, the specific circumstances leading to a murder are absolutely worth considering: we shouldn't just have a blind rule we follow in every situation.  Each situation is individual.  I just think pleading insanity is far too general a claim: that alone doesn't differentiate her from many other murderers.
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: CrAz3D on July 26, 2006, 10:06:23 PM
Most people only plead insanity if they have something to back it up.  Not many people get off on insanity...but when they do get off it makes the news.
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: Sidoh on July 26, 2006, 10:17:54 PM
Quote from: Rule on July 26, 2006, 09:29:46 PM
I haven't read into this particular situation, but it isn't uncommon for someone who has committed murder to plead insanity.  My problem with such a general plead is that a majority of people who commit such acts are indeed insane, but that doesn't make them less of a threat to society.   On the other hand, the specific circumstances leading to a murder are absolutely worth considering: we shouldn't just have a blind rule we follow in every situation.  Each situation is individual.  I just think pleading insanity is far too general a claim: that alone doesn't differentiate her from many other murderers.

Yeah, I agree.

If their insanity is treatable (through therapy/drugs), then I think it's valid to plead insanity in such a case.
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: iago on July 27, 2006, 01:29:23 AM
Well, if it's common for people to plead insanity, but not common to get off due to insanity, then it can't be that everybody is provably insane, in the way that matters. 
Title: Re: Innocent by reason of insanity
Post by: Hitmen on July 27, 2006, 01:32:48 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on July 26, 2006, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Rule on July 26, 2006, 08:29:13 PM
Isn't anyone who does these sort of things not in a good state of mind?
What about hitmen and assassins? dun dun dunnnn
Who says I'm in a good state of mind?!