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Title: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Newby on August 20, 2006, 07:49:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0fZExTqQ8

What are your thoughts on that? I'm interested to hear your opinions on whether he deserved his punishment or not.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 20, 2006, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: Newby on August 20, 2006, 07:49:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0fZExTqQ8

What are your thoughts on that? I'm interested to hear your opinions on whether he deserved his punishment or not.
You should be more specific.  He is put in jail for SELLING drugs.  And he didn't necessarily sell ONE joint, he sold one joint to a COP. 

And what the hell are they talking about drug-free zones being a bad law?  The whole city should be drug-free. 

Oh, and they're saying that most people who arrested for selling drugs are non-white.  So obviously the laws are racist.  Or maybe non-white people are the ones with problems?

That, like most pro-drug things I've seen, sounds totally stupid. 
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: leet_muffin on August 20, 2006, 07:55:55 PM
Two years per joint sounds like a good law to me.

A more effective law would be life per joint.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 20, 2006, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on August 20, 2006, 07:55:55 PM
Two years per joint sounds like a good law to me.

A more effective law would be life per joint.

How about death per joint?  We should start lacing drugs with something lethal and selling them randomly.  Muahaha
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Super_X on August 20, 2006, 09:23:12 PM
Just because GameSnake's a dumb shit, doesn't mean every one else on earth that's done drugs before is an idiot. If we're going to kill idiots, why not just kill every one?
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 20, 2006, 09:39:40 PM
I'm not suggesting killing idiots, just criminals. 
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: leet_muffin on August 20, 2006, 09:59:42 PM
Quote from: Super_X on August 20, 2006, 09:23:12 PM
Just because GameSnake's a dumb shit, doesn't mean every one else on earth that's done drugs before is an idiot. If we're going to kill idiots, why not just kill every one?

TIM FOR '08!

Policies: -Killing idiots.
            -Killing everyone.

Yay!
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Super_X on August 20, 2006, 10:07:42 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on August 20, 2006, 09:59:42 PM
Quote from: Super_X on August 20, 2006, 09:23:12 PM
Just because GameSnake's a dumb shit, doesn't mean every one else on earth that's done drugs before is an idiot. If we're going to kill idiots, why not just kill every one?

TIM FOR '08!

Policies: -Killing idiots.
            -Killing everyone.

Yay!
Dn't forget the mandatory youthinasitions of kittens, and puppys, and everything beautiful. Also; I distroy all art.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: rabbit on August 20, 2006, 11:42:10 PM
I suggest a world-wide effort to replace all heroin, cocaine, crack, marijuana, acid, and mephamphetamines with cyanide.  Or anthrax.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Sidoh on August 21, 2006, 12:35:42 AM
Quote from: rabbit on August 20, 2006, 11:42:10 PM
I suggest a world-wide effort to replace all heroin, cocaine, crack, marijuana, acid, and mephamphetamines with cyanide.  Or anthrax.

I think you mean methamphetamines.  ;)
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Armin on August 21, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Just curious, why do you think marijuana is illegal? (directed towards everyone that reads this)
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: MyndFyre on August 21, 2006, 03:00:24 AM
Quote from: Super_X on August 20, 2006, 09:23:12 PM
Just because GameSnake's a dumb shit, doesn't mean every one else on earth that's done drugs before is an idiot.

You're right.  It just happens to be that people who do drugs are idiots.  It might just be when they're doing them, but man, they fuck people up.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 21, 2006, 09:35:40 AM
Do idiots do drugs?
Or do drugs make people idiots?
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 09:41:22 AM
Not so smart people do drugs and become more not so smart.  Thus, drugs make idiots.
OR
Idiots do drugs but can't get much stupider, so it appears as if they don't.  Thus idiots do drugs.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Sidoh on August 21, 2006, 09:43:48 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on August 21, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Just curious, why do you think marijuana is illegal? (directed towards everyone that reads this)

Okay Gamesnake. ;)
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 21, 2006, 10:01:20 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on August 21, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Just curious, why do you think marijuana is illegal? (directed towards everyone that reads this)
Incidentally, it may very well be (which I think you're implying) that the laws against marijuana are unjust.  If that's the case, then there are proper ways to go about getting that changed.  Breaking the law and making yourself a criminal pretty much assures that you won't be in a position to change the world, so anybody who's really against the law should pursue a proper avenue of getting it changed without breaking it. 
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Rule on August 21, 2006, 12:55:16 PM
Quote from: iago on August 21, 2006, 10:01:20 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on August 21, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Just curious, why do you think marijuana is illegal? (directed towards everyone that reads this)
Incidentally, it may very well be (which I think you're implying) that the laws against marijuana are unjust.  If that's the case, then there are proper ways to go about getting that changed.  Breaking the law and making yourself a criminal pretty much assures that you won't be in a position to change the world, so anybody who's really against the law should pursue a proper avenue of getting it changed without breaking it. 

In the case of alcohol prohibition, blatantly disregarding the law was fairly effective.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Rule on August 21, 2006, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=7122.msg88535#msg88535 date=1156143624]
Quote from: Super_X on August 20, 2006, 09:23:12 PM
Just because GameSnake's a dumb shit, doesn't mean every one else on earth that's done drugs before is an idiot.

You're right.  It just happens to be that people who do drugs are idiots.  It might just be when they're doing them, but man, they fuck people up.

Not a very good generalization at all.  What are you referring to as drugs?  Also, although I certainly wouldn't encourage using it, many of the smartest mathematicians and physicists of the 20th/21st century (e.g. the smartest people on the planet) were LSD users.  And yes, even while they were using they were quite bright.

There are also so many geniuses who became alcoholic geniuses.  Most highly intelligent people are extremely sensitive to various things that make it very difficult for them to cope with their reality -- so they resort to chemicals (like alcohol) as an escape.  While drinking isn't good for your intelligence, I think in many cases smart people are more likely to develop serious dependencies than most others; therefore I couldn't agree less with the claim "it just happens that people who do drugs are idiots," as it seems the opposite may be true in a good portion of cases!
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Joe on August 21, 2006, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: iago on August 21, 2006, 10:01:20 AM
Breaking the law and making yourself a criminal pretty much assures that you won't be in a position to change the world, so anybody who's really against the law should pursue a proper avenue of getting it changed without breaking it.

Martin Luther King Jr disagrees. :)
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 21, 2006, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Rule on August 21, 2006, 12:55:16 PM
In the case of alcohol prohibition, blatantly disregarding the law was fairly effective.
Haha yeah, that was an unfortunate encouragement.  Perhaps that only works for new laws? 

Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=7122.msg88560#msg88560 date=1156180127]
Martin Luther King Jr disagrees. :)
And where's he?  Dead.  Me: 1 Him: 0. 

But seriously, wasn't he a proponent of civil rights and such?  How do you disobey civil rights laws?  I think that there's a big difference between breaking the laws that you are trying to fix/abolish and general civil disobedience. 
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 02:01:33 PM
Fuck it all.  America is based on trying to make a "more perfect union".  Our (un-iago and un-Blaze's, though) whole country is based on a grammatical error.  NARG!
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 21, 2006, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 02:01:33 PM
Fuck it all.  America is based on trying to make a "more perfect union".  Our (un-iago and un-Blaze's, though) whole country is based on a grammatical error.  NARG!
How would you fix the grammar?  A "perfecter union"?  Having a "more perfect union" is acceptable, unless the context around it is different. 
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 02:33:00 PM
Take out "more".  Or change "more perfect" to "better".
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: d&q on August 21, 2006, 03:27:12 PM
Quote from: iago on August 21, 2006, 09:35:40 AM
Do idiots do drugs?
Or do drugs make people idiots?


Both?
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Armin on August 21, 2006, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on August 21, 2006, 09:43:48 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on August 21, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Just curious, why do you think marijuana is illegal? (directed towards everyone that reads this)

Okay Gamesnake. ;)
Quote from: iago on August 21, 2006, 10:01:20 AM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on August 21, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Just curious, why do you think marijuana is illegal? (directed towards everyone that reads this)
Incidentally, it may very well be (which I think you're implying) that the laws against marijuana are unjust.  If that's the case, then there are proper ways to go about getting that changed.  Breaking the law and making yourself a criminal pretty much assures that you won't be in a position to change the world, so anybody who's really against the law should pursue a proper avenue of getting it changed without breaking it. 
Believe it or not, but like I said in the post, I'm just curious. Still haven't gotten a good response though. :(
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Sidoh on August 21, 2006, 06:33:12 PM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on August 21, 2006, 06:22:08 PM
Believe it or not, but like I said in the post, I'm just curious. Still haven't gotten a good response though. :(

Because, statistically, it's a gateway drug.  I'm sure you've heard that argument before, but I think it's a very good reason.  I'd be interested to see how the numbers of "hardcore" drug users in somewhere where Marijuana is legal compare to the same statistic in the US.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Newby on August 21, 2006, 08:31:34 PM
Quote from: iago on August 21, 2006, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=7122.msg88560#msg88560 date=1156180127]
Martin Luther King Jr disagrees. :)
And where's he?  Dead.  Me: 1 Him: 0. 

Lofuckingl.

Metal: I don't know about you, but the fact that the law states marijuana is illegal leads me to believe that marijuana is indeed illegal. Nothing you can argue against that. ::)

The law would be why it is illegal.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: sushi on August 21, 2006, 09:21:20 PM
Look they should allow the use of drugs but only in certain areas and hopefully all the stoners will die and we will no longer have idiots! Good plan?
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 09:26:36 PM
I like my cyanide plan.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: leet_muffin on August 21, 2006, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 09:26:36 PM
I like my cyanide plan.

I like your cyanide plan.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 21, 2006, 10:30:33 PM
Quote from: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 09:26:36 PM
I like my cyanide plan.
That was mostly MY plan:
Quote from: iago on August 20, 2006, 08:36:59 PM
How about death per joint?  We should start lacing drugs with something lethal and selling them randomly.  Muahaha

All you did was specify which lethal substance to use.  That totally doesn't make it your plan!
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: rabbit on August 21, 2006, 10:34:57 PM
I didn't say lace, I said replace.
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: iago on August 21, 2006, 11:16:26 PM
It'll have the same effect :P
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Blaze on August 22, 2006, 12:08:23 AM
Quote from: iago on August 21, 2006, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=7122.msg88560#msg88560 date=1156180127]
Martin Luther King Jr disagrees. :)
And where's he?  Dead.  Me: 1 Him: 0. 

You have NO idea how much it hurt to laugh that hard. 
Title: Re: "Two years for one joint"
Post by: Armin on August 22, 2006, 01:36:09 AM
Quote from: Newby on August 21, 2006, 08:31:34 PM
Metal: I don't know about you, but the fact that the law states marijuana is illegal leads me to believe that marijuana is indeed illegal. Nothing you can argue against that. ::)

The law would be why it is illegal.
Don't be an ass. :(