Clan x86

hey im having a big dispute about this.
i would like to play lacrosse and be a stud
but i also have to work to earn some money
i would like to do both but school is very important to me
HELP*****

Hard decision. I'd personally play lacrosse, but I'd go with money. In the end, it'll look better and be better.

You probably won't go pro lacrosse. Job experience and money is nice no matter what, though.

lax trust me.  works good until you can't do anything. My friend/coworker had to miss alot of games/practices last year because of work. I won't stand for that if my boss tries to do that to me - I'll quit. It's my last year for varsity lax (unless I make the team in college) and I'm definitely going to relish in the moment.

money money MONEY (imagine the tune in your head now)

Honestly, you don't need any fucking money yet. Wait untill you go out to college to get a job :P

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Honestly, you don't need any fucking money yet. Wait untill you go out to college to get a job :P

nobody wants to work in college! He could get a job and save money so he won't have to work in college, and then just work a couple days when he comes back on break (if it's a job that will keep you on payroll.) That's what my friend does.

Work, definitely.  Like Newby said, sports will only get you so far unless you're a total pro, but job experience will get you further.

Quote from: iago on October 18, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
Work, definitely.  Like Newby said, sports will only get you so far unless you're a total pro, but job experience will get you further.

But lax is more fun, will get him girls (3 girls came up to me after school today when I was playing wallball), and just makes him sweet. Plus, if he gets a job they'll mandate when he can play and when he can do whatever and it sucks.

Play lacrosse. It will benefit and distinguish you more in the long run than a grunt job will -- and it will be more fun.

Quote from: OG Trust on October 18, 2006, 04:49:25 PMPlus, if he gets a job they'll mandate when he can play and when he can do whatever and it sucks.

Welcome to the rest of your life.

Quote from: iago on October 18, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
Work, definitely.  Like Newby said, sports will only get you so far unless you're a total pro, but job experience will get you further.

the experience from the job he gets will not help him later :-/

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the experience from the job he gets will not help him later :-/

Uh, yes it will...

I agree with Rule, even if you don't go pro you'll still have a shitload of fun. Wasting your time at a job you probably wont touch for the rest of your life isn't going to do much for you.

I'd rather enjoy whats left of my childhood if I were you.

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I agree with Rule, even if you don't go pro you'll still have a shitload of fun. Wasting your time at a job you probably wont touch for the rest of your life isn't going to do much for you.

I'd rather enjoy whats left of my childhood if I were you.

I agree to an extent, but I believe that a job experience while maintaining that job isn't necessarily important is very useful.

Quote from: Deuce on October 18, 2006, 06:34:15 PM

Quote from: OG Trust on October 18, 2006, 04:49:25 PMPlus, if he gets a job they'll mandate when he can play and when he can do whatever and it sucks.

Welcome to the rest of your life.

Which is why he should play lacrosse instead, he has his whole life to work. Unless he can balance it and do both I wouldn't take the job (unless there's pressure from your parents..like I had.)

Plus lacrosse opens you up to alot of stuff. It just looks good, it's a team sport which requires both individual work and the ability to work together. My lacrosse coach wrote me an awesome recommendation on leadership, an I think a really good recommendation and the experience lacrosse gives you is much better than a part time job.

Plus, pro lax players make like $12,000 a year. They do it because they love it, but they also have outside jobs. Of course he probably won't go pro, but it's a fun and healthy and just plain awesome pasttime. Maybe he'll play in college, maybe he'll get a scholarship - who knows?

Quote from: Sidoh on October 18, 2006, 06:50:04 PM

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the experience from the job he gets will not help him later :-/

Uh, yes it will...

I doubt whatever job he gets now will be anything like his job when he gets out of college

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I doubt whatever job he gets now will be anything like his job when he gets out of college

true i plan on being a cop
but working at the hospital will help me with my social skills.
pluse i will get paid like 10-12 bucks an hour
and as i see it "money is fun"

Well it looks like you have your mind made up, so why are you asking us?

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I doubt whatever job he gets now will be anything like his job when he gets out of college

If you truely believe that, I think you're naive.

Quote from: Sidoh on October 19, 2006, 12:28:06 AM

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I doubt whatever job he gets now will be anything like his job when he gets out of college

If you truely believe that, I think you're naive.

What I am thinking is if he got a job washing dishes, I don't see how that skill will help him if he becomes a cop.

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What I am thinking is if he got a job washing dishes, I don't see how that skill will help him if he becomes a cop.

That's not the experience I'm talking about.  Washing dishes obviously isn't a very useful skill when you're a cop, but the knowledge and experience in a working environment is.  You have a boss, you have orders, you have expectations and you're doing it because you have to, not because you'll have to run laps!

Quote from: Sidoh on October 19, 2006, 12:44:45 AM

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What I am thinking is if he got a job washing dishes, I don't see how that skill will help him if he becomes a cop.

That's not the experience I'm talking about.  Washing dishes obviously isn't a very useful skill when you're a cop, but the knowledge and experience in a working environment is.  You have a boss, you have orders, you have expectations and you're doing it because you have to, not because you'll have to run laps!

I understand taht, but I was talking skills learned from the proffesion, not environment.

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I understand taht, but I was talking skills learned from the proffesion, not environment.

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Quote from: Sidoh on October 19, 2006, 12:53:34 AM

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I understand taht, but I was talking skills learned from the proffesion, not environment.

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God damnit, I just suck at explaining things :P

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God damnit, I just suck at explaining things :P

No. Sidoh covered that. Noob.

Quote from: Sidoh on October 19, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
That's not the experience I'm talking about.  Washing dishes obviously isn't a very useful skill when you're a cop, but the knowledge and experience in a working environment is.  You have a boss, you have orders, you have expectations and you're doing it because you have to, not because you'll have to run laps!

Unless you have no other sports, work experience will be infintely better. You cannot go through your life without ANYTHING to put on a resume, that's just a bad idea. You have other sports (football?), so work would be much better for you. Colleges and future employers care about valuable experience more than they do fun in sports, especially if it's an option betwen 1 or 2 school sports. The more diverse activities, the better.

Quote from: Sidoh on October 19, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
You have a boss, you have orders, you have expectations and you're doing it because you have to, not because you'll have to run laps!

It's still not any different, not getting paid or getting fired is the equivilant of the punishment of full field suicides.

Quote from: OG Trust on October 19, 2006, 06:14:40 AM
It's still not any different, not getting paid or getting fired is the equivilant of the punishment of full field suicides.

You can think of it that way, but it's far different.  I was in sports.  Working was a much different (and far more useful) experience.

Quote from: Quik on October 19, 2006, 01:10:29 AM
Unless you have no other sports, work experience will be infintely better. You cannot go through your life without ANYTHING to put on a resume, that's just a bad idea. You have other sports (football?), so work would be much better for you. Colleges and future employers care about valuable experience more than they do fun in sports, especially if it's an option betwen 1 or 2 school sports. The more diverse activities, the better.

I disagree.  In everything I've applied to, having been on a varsity lacrosse team would have been so much more helpful than having held a crappy job.  The only way having a mediocre job is going to be helpful is if you plan on applying to yet another similar job that is also crappy, but perhaps slightly less crappy.  And this slightly-less crappy job might help you get a slightly-less slightly-less crappy job eventually.  And if we continue this for another 20 years, if you're lucky you might end up assistant manager at McDonalds, or "ship's captain" at a seafood buffet, making a "steady" 29.95k /year.

I'd rather take another route that is more challenging / ambitious but will likely get me much further, much more quickly.  Also, I could do without the "wholesome" and developmental experience of being "happy to be of use" for the most tedious and insignificant tasks. 

Ok, both are good decisions.

Work: the more work experience you get when you're younger, the better.  I've met some of my best friends from working, which is a plus.  Experience in a working environment and having a job is a plus.  And money is always good, money may not buy happiness but it'll buy you cool stuff. 

Lacrosse: work experience is valuable on a resume, but so are interests.  I think I said this somewhere else here, but I'll repeat for the benefit of people who haven't heard this rant:

When I was choosing people to interview for a job, I didn't care about a high GPA or a lot of experience, because I knew the job entailed work that they've never seen before, so those didn't matter.  What impressed me more were diverse interests.  I would look at the University transcript to see which interesting courses somebody's taken, and at the "Hobbies/ Interests" section of their resume to see what interests them.  By seeing what a person takes/does, you get a lot of insight into them.  For example, we interviewed somebody with a minor in criminology, but not somebody with a minor in math, and we interviewed more people with a GPA of 3.5 - 4.0 than 4.0 - 4.5 (4.5 is max here). 

My point is, having something like Lacrosse, Debating, Chess Club, Gymnastics, Ukranian Dance, Cooking, etc. on your resume makes you seem like more than a piece of paper, it makes you seem interesting.  So take diverse interests, and don't assume that nobody notices.  I did. 


But I still think having a job is better :P