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Title: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 23, 2006, 11:36:49 PM
Yep, tommorow afternoon!
http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2006/10/firefox-2-review/

And it was accidentally released earlier today :( Too bad I didn't catch that.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Newby on October 23, 2006, 11:45:39 PM
Don't be a whore and eat their bandwidth. Wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: d&q on October 24, 2006, 12:05:06 AM
I hope this version supports adblock  :-\. Last time I updated, the plugin stopped working, and my life slowly unraveled.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Newby on October 24, 2006, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: Deuce on October 24, 2006, 12:05:06 AM
I hope this version supports adblock  :-\. Last time I updated, the plugin stopped working, and my life slowly unraveled.

If it doesn't I won't upgrade. Infact, I'll wait a few days just to make sure it works when I upgrade.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 06:41:38 PM
Release damnit! Release!!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Ergot on October 24, 2006, 06:43:07 PM
It has been released... check mozilla.org
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Ergot on October 24, 2006, 06:43:07 PM
It has been released... check mozilla.org
RC3 was released on the 16th. That is the latest. Not the actual 2.0.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: skip on October 24, 2006, 06:47:09 PM
It's officially released now.  :)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Ergot on October 24, 2006, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Ergot on October 24, 2006, 06:43:07 PM
It has been released... check mozilla.org
RC3 was released on the 16th. That is the latest. Not the actual 2.0.
It has been released... check mozilla.com*
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 06:50:51 PM
I didn't see because they didn't post it on their main page... which was what I was checking
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 06:59:12 PM
Well, it is pretty damn sexy :)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: BigAznDaddy on October 24, 2006, 08:21:53 PM
 :o  i got to go check that out
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Newby on October 24, 2006, 08:34:28 PM
Backspace is now page up? WHAT THE FUCK?
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 24, 2006, 09:07:58 PM
Quote from: Newby on October 24, 2006, 08:34:28 PM
Backspace is now page up? WHAT THE FUCK?
Yeah, and alt-s is now "History". 

I've already broken old habits and started using tab-space for submitting forum posts and alt-left/alt-right for backwards and forwards.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Chavo on October 24, 2006, 09:31:23 PM
Quote from: Newby on October 24, 2006, 08:34:28 PM
Backspace is now page up? WHAT THE FUCK?
It's still back for me, maybe just on linux? (weird)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: unTactical on October 24, 2006, 09:31:23 PM
Quote from: Newby on October 24, 2006, 08:34:28 PM
Backspace is now page up? WHAT THE FUCK?
It's still back for me, maybe just on linux? (weird)
backspace is still back for me too :P
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 24, 2006, 11:05:05 PM
Mouse gesters rule!  I'm actually considering giving FireFox another try.  iago, you'd mentioned that there was an addon for mouse gestues for firefox, correct?  That's probably one of the things I'd miss most about opera if I did start using firefox again.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 24, 2006, 11:07:50 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on October 24, 2006, 11:05:05 PM
Mouse gesters rule!  I'm actually considering giving FireFox another try.  iago, you'd mentioned that there was an addon for mouse gestues for firefox, correct?  That's probably one of the things I'd miss most about opera if I did start using firefox again.
Yes, there are at least two addons that do mouse gestures.  I don't know which, if any, support FireFox 2.0 yet.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 11:09:21 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on October 24, 2006, 11:05:05 PM
Mouse gesters rule!  I'm actually considering giving FireFox another try.  iago, you'd mentioned that there was an addon for mouse gestues for firefox, correct?  That's probably one of the things I'd miss most about opera if I did start using firefox again.
What is a mouse gester?
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Quik on October 24, 2006, 11:12:57 PM
Are you talking about the Zorro extension thing, where you can make gestures* with your mouse, and it does things? Now _that_ is a neat plugin. :D

Not upgrading for a tad bit, don't like things breaking. I was forced to upgrade to Gaim beta, and all hell broke loose. Not going through that again.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 11:23:04 PM
Quote from: Quik on October 24, 2006, 11:12:57 PM
Are you talking about the Zorro extension thing, where you can make gestures* with your mouse, and it does things? Now _that_ is a neat plugin. :D

Not upgrading for a tad bit, don't like things breaking. I was forced to upgrade to Gaim beta, and all hell broke loose. Not going through that again.
I knew it was spelt wrong :P Woot for spell check!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: CrAz3D on October 24, 2006, 11:53:39 PM
I like the small graphic changes & the built in spell checkery thing
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 24, 2006, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: iago on October 24, 2006, 11:07:50 PM
Yes, there are at least two addons that do mouse gestures.  I don't know which, if any, support FireFox 2.0 yet.

Cool.  I'll have to check into it. :)

Quote from: CrAz3D on October 24, 2006, 11:53:39 PM
I like the small graphic changes & the built in spell checkery thing

Google Toolbar (pretty much) made Firefox have a built in spell checker.  I sort of suspect that it is/was more functional and accurate than the one that comes with firefox now as well.  The way it did spell checking was awesome.  That's one of the things I miss about IE/Firefox... google toolbar was awesome.

Quote from: Towelie on October 24, 2006, 11:09:21 PM
What is a mouse gester?

In Opera, you hold your right mouse button down after clicking in some arbitrary place on the page and drag it in a specific direction or series of directions.  From that, the browser performs some action which is assigned in the same way the rest of the controls are set up.  For example, left is back, right is next, down is new tab, down and then up is duplicate current tab, etc.  There was also one that closed the current tab, which got me into some trouble a while back.  It's since been disabled, though. :)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Blaze on October 25, 2006, 12:24:57 AM
How customizable was that again... that sounds really awesome... ?  :)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Ergot on October 25, 2006, 01:09:40 AM
/me is wondering if and when it will show up on the automated update.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 25, 2006, 01:17:40 AM
Quote from: Blaze on October 25, 2006, 12:24:57 AM
How customizable was that again... that sounds really awesome... ?  :)

For Opera?  Here's a screenshot of the options menu (http://sidoh.dark-wire.net/upload/viewitem.php?id=373) with a "gesture" filter applied.

If you're talking about the FireFox Addon, then my bad.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: rabbit on October 25, 2006, 07:17:08 AM
The FireFox mg plugin I used was entirely configurable.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 25, 2006, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: Quik on October 24, 2006, 11:12:57 PM
Not upgrading for a tad bit, don't like things breaking. I was forced to upgrade to Gaim beta, and all hell broke loose. Not going through that again.
FireFox2 is no longer beta.  I've been using it since the first RC, and nothing serious has broken. 

What happened with Gaim beta?  I've been using the Gaim2 alphas and betas pretty much since the came out, and I've had minimal problems.  I hope you reported whatever went wrong, that's the point of open betas :P

Quote from: rabbit on October 25, 2006, 07:17:08 AM
The FireFox mg plugin I used was entirely configurable.
Yeah, same.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 25, 2006, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: rabbit on October 25, 2006, 07:17:08 AM
The FireFox mg plugin I used was entirely configurable.

Just to clear things up, I wasn't saying it wasn't. :P

Edit: I just installed the FF extension for mouse gestures.  It's very configureable!  Even moreso than Opera, but it's also more than I need it to be.  Even still, it'll be nice to stop pointlessly right clicking.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Blaze on October 25, 2006, 04:26:25 PM
I got Mouse Gestures and I love it (right now), thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 09:48:01 PM
I'm not going to download this for a while.  It sounds all messed up.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 26, 2006, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 09:48:01 PM
I'm not going to download this for a while.  It sounds all messed up.
I haven't seen anything wrong so far with it...
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 26, 2006, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 09:48:01 PM
I'm not going to download this for a while.  It sounds all messed up.
Hmm?  What's wrong with it? 
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 10:30:08 PM
Hotkeys being changed and stuff.  Plus, I personally think they kinda rushed from the last beta stage to the final product..
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Blaze on October 26, 2006, 11:47:20 PM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 10:30:08 PM
Hotkeys being changed and stuff.  Plus, I personally think they kinda rushed from the last beta stage to the final product..

I haven't noticed any hotkey changes, although I'd like a way to configure them built-into the client..
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Ergot on October 27, 2006, 04:35:08 AM
I'm waiting for the auto-update, I hear it's going to be available with FF 1.5.0.8. :)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 27, 2006, 08:49:43 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 10:30:08 PM
Hotkeys being changed and stuff.  Plus, I personally think they kinda rushed from the last beta stage to the final product..
Hotkeys are very minor.  It took me like a day to get used to using new ones.

And what do you mean rushed?  They had 2 public betas and 3 release candidates, plus an uncountable number of nightly builds (several of which I used).  It wasn't rushed at all.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: CrAz3D on October 27, 2006, 10:08:06 AM
My keys are all the same...
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Newby on October 28, 2006, 12:45:37 AM
browser.backspace_action = 0

(about:config)

8). My Firefox woes are over!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 26, 2006, 10:30:08 PM
Hotkeys being changed and stuff.  Plus, I personally think they kinda rushed from the last beta stage to the final product..
O.o You need to get FF2.0 . Those reasons seem invalid to me....
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 28, 2006, 01:32:03 AM
Quote from: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 01:18:54 AM
O.o You need to get FF2.0 . Those reasons seem invalid to me....

No, he doesn't.  I don't think it matters if you think his reasoning is invalid.  :P
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 02:31:34 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on October 28, 2006, 01:32:03 AM
Quote from: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 01:18:54 AM
O.o You need to get FF2.0 . Those reasons seem invalid to me....

No, he doesn't.  I don't think it matters if you think his reasoning is invalid.  :P
I was kidding :P, obviously if it is his opinion.....
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: rabbit on October 28, 2006, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 02:31:34 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on October 28, 2006, 01:32:03 AM
Quote from: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 01:18:54 AM
O.o You need to get FF2.0 . Those reasons seem invalid to me....

No, he doesn't.  I don't think it matters if you think his reasoning is invalid.  :P
I was kidding :P, obviously if it is his opinion.....

His opinion is wrong.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 28, 2006, 12:11:44 PM
Quote from: rabbit on October 28, 2006, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 02:31:34 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on October 28, 2006, 01:32:03 AM
Quote from: Towelie on October 28, 2006, 01:18:54 AM
O.o You need to get FF2.0 . Those reasons seem invalid to me....

No, he doesn't.  I don't think it matters if you think his reasoning is invalid.  :P
I was kidding :P, obviously if it is his opinion.....

His opinion is wrong.
To quote a good friend of mine, "sure, everybody's entitled to their own opinion, but it can still be the wrong opinion"
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: CrAz3D on October 28, 2006, 03:38:08 PM
I like this new FireFox.


New web brower, new computer, new phone...I've had alot of new this last few days.  (The only one that should've happened was the browser, but whatever)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Ergot on October 28, 2006, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on October 28, 2006, 03:38:08 PM
I like this new FireFox.


New web brower, new computer, new phone...I've had alot of new this last few days.  (The only one that should've happened was the browser, but whatever)
It's obvious that downloading the new Firefox leads to new stuff! Everyone should download it!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: deadly7 on October 29, 2006, 01:18:20 AM
Plus, it's even more bloated.  Sure, I don't leave Firefox running to rape my memory up the ass, but now I have even more bloat with it!

Spell-checking, search engines, web feeds, live titles?  What the heck?  I don't use that crap, stop forcing it on me.  If the makers of Firefox like it, great, they can make a plugin for it.  Stop forcing what was once a light, nice browser to become a bloated IE, neg huge security holes.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Super_X on October 29, 2006, 01:01:05 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 29, 2006, 01:18:20 AM
Plus, it's even more bloated.  Sure, I don't leave Firefox running to rape my memory up the ass, but now I have even more bloat with it!

Spell-checking, search engines, web feeds, live titles?  What the heck?  I don't use that crap, stop forcing it on me.  If the makers of Firefox like it, great, they can make a plugin for it.  Stop forcing what was once a light, nice browser to become a bloated IE, neg huge security holes.
I still prefer Mozilla suite 1.7. See, I pwn. No change for me!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 29, 2006, 01:28:31 AM
You're all fools for not using Opera!  Except iago.  He's not a fool.

Okay, okay.  None of you are fools.  But still!  Opera is awesome!  And if you don't believe me, I have a few words to convince you:

   Common...  Common!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Ergot on October 29, 2006, 02:39:30 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on October 29, 2006, 01:28:31 AM
You're all fools for not using Opera!  Except iago.  He's not a fool.

Okay, okay.  None of you are fools.  But still!  Opera is awesome!  And if you don't believe me, I have a few words to convince you:

   Common...  Common!
I don't like Opera. I tried it, it just wasn't me.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Sidoh on October 29, 2006, 03:10:37 AM
Quote from: Ergot on October 29, 2006, 02:39:30 AM
I don't like Opera. I tried it, it just wasn't me.

Then you suck!  It's the only plausible explanation.
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 29, 2006, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 29, 2006, 01:18:20 AM
Plus, it's even more bloated.  Sure, I don't leave Firefox running to rape my memory up the ass, but now I have even more bloat with it!

Spell-checking, search engines, web feeds, live titles?  What the heck?  I don't use that crap, stop forcing it on me.  If the makers of Firefox like it, great, they can make a plugin for it.  Stop forcing what was once a light, nice browser to become a bloated IE, neg huge security holes.
Actually, another feature is that it uses less memory and runs faster. 

Go figure...
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: deadly7 on October 29, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: iago on October 29, 2006, 08:52:17 AM
Actually, another feature is that it uses less memory and runs faster. 

Go figure...
Prove it. ;)
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: iago on October 29, 2006, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 29, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: iago on October 29, 2006, 08:52:17 AM
Actually, another feature is that it uses less memory and runs faster. 

Go figure...
Prove it. ;)
I can't find it on their "Release Notes" page, but I'm sure I read it somewhere in their changelog.  But I don't feel like finding it, so screw it. 

- Spell-checking is a really nice feature, and it's not optional, nor does it take a noticeable amount of memory or cpu.
- Search engines are in every modern browser, including FireFox 1.0 and 1.5.
- Web feeds are done in FireFox 1.0 and 1.5, and I love them.  They just improved the interface to them in 2.0.

Nothing is being forced on you.  If you don't want to use RSS feeds, don't click the little icon (which, by the way, is there on FireFox 1.0 and 1.5).  If you don't want spellchecking (I don't know why you wouldn't), don't click them.  If you don't want search engine integration.. well, use IE6 or before. Every other browser includes search engines. 

Mozilla has never been a nice, light browser, it's always been a useful feature-rich browser.  And IE isn't bloated, IE is simplistic, annoyingly simplistic.  IE doesn't need bloat to have its own security holes.


You're just looking for excuses.  If you don't want to go with a new browser, then don't.  But don't pick on features for being "forced on you"!
Title: Re: Firefox 2.0 being released!
Post by: Newby on October 29, 2006, 04:06:25 PM
Quote from: iago on October 29, 2006, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: deadly7 on October 29, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: iago on October 29, 2006, 08:52:17 AM
Actually, another feature is that it uses less memory and runs faster. 

Go figure...
Prove it. ;)
My anus is bleeding.

You're just looking for excuses.  If you don't want to go with a new browser, then don't.  But don't pick on features for being "forced on you"!

It's deadly. Go figure.