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Title: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: CrAz3D on February 09, 2007, 10:50:25 PM
(http://techdigest.tv/pcmaclinux.jpg)
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Joe on February 09, 2007, 10:52:37 PM
Windows has no sense of humor, a Mac slacks off and never gets anything done, and Linux is high-tech but ugly?

That's pretty good, actually.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: trust on February 10, 2007, 08:02:41 AM
No it's saying Linux is for the people who to go Star Wars conventions dressed up. And they're ugly.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Warrior on February 10, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
I laugh at the Mac commercials. It makes the Mac guy look like a jackass and the Windows guy look productive.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Sidoh on February 10, 2007, 01:10:27 PM
lol, I must admit that the Vista one was pretty clever, albeit somewhat invalid.  My dad laughed his ass off when he saw it after I told him that he'd probably have to upgrade a bunch of his hardware in order to run vista without much pain involved.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: ZeroX on February 13, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
The Mac guys is an asshole. If these comericals are to get people to lean towards a mac when Choosing there OS then I still go back to Windows. I want to kick that guy in the nuts.

"Iam cool and laid back, ROFL look at my buddie windows he comes in a 3 boxes, I come in one."

Fuck Steve Jobs and his marketing team.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Joe on February 13, 2007, 10:57:57 PM
Quote from: ZeroX on February 13, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
guys is

I should have stopped reading at that.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Sidoh on February 13, 2007, 11:52:41 PM
Quote from: ZeroX on February 13, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
The Mac guys is an asshole. If these comericals are to get people to lean towards a mac when Choosing there OS then I still go back to Windows. I want to kick that guy in the nuts.

"Iam cool and laid back, ROFL look at my buddie windows he comes in a 3 boxes, I come in one."

Fuck Steve Jobs and his marketing team.

Personally, I really liked the most recent Vista commercial with the security guard asking him "You are coming to a sad realization.  Allow or deny?"

That said, the commercials obviously target people who don't know much about either operating system.  I don't think it's possible to make a commercial that's going to convert even the least bias windows zealot (yes, I realize that's an oxymoron of sorts).
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Joe on February 14, 2007, 12:17:47 AM
The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: ZeroX on February 14, 2007, 12:39:16 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=8568.msg108801#msg108801 date=1171425477]
Quote from: ZeroX on February 13, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
guys is

I should have stopped reading at that.

My grammer is 1337.

QuoteThe thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

The common person dosent know a damn thing about a comptuer let alone what an OS is. Assuming that you are an average person in today society you probally have only used Windows and have had some type of break out in your system so you would think "LOL, No virus on Mac? Easy to set up? The guy in teh commerical is laid back and whitty? Damn Mac is the choice for me"

So I totally agree with you on your statement. But you cant really think its taking advantage of somebody on their own stupidty and lack of Knowledge.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Joe on February 14, 2007, 12:54:58 AM
Quote from: ZeroX on February 14, 2007, 12:39:16 AM
My grammer is 1337.

What's grammer? Grammar, you mean?
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Sidoh on February 14, 2007, 12:55:54 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=8568.msg108817#msg108817 date=1171430267]
The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

Isn't that the only audience that commercials really have a chance of influencing?

Quote from: ZeroX on February 14, 2007, 12:39:16 AM
The common person dosent know a damn thing about a comptuer let alone what an OS is. Assuming that you are an average person in today society you probally have only used Windows and have had some type of break out in your system so you would think "LOL, No virus on Mac? Easy to set up? The guy in teh commerical is laid back and whitty? Damn Mac is the choice for me"

So I totally agree with you on your statement. But you cant really think its taking advantage of somebody on their own stupidty and lack of Knowledge.

I'd wager most people simply don't care enough to make the switch.

Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=8568.msg108825#msg108825 date=1171432498]
What's grammer? Grammar, you mean?

Yeah, Joe, you're really one to be correcting spelling and grammar mistakes...
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Quik on February 14, 2007, 02:10:37 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=8568.msg108817#msg108817 date=1171430267]
The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

As opposed to all other commercials, that don't do this.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Joe on February 14, 2007, 02:19:18 AM
The detergent I use isn't a matter of a thousand dollars, though.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Sidoh on February 14, 2007, 02:46:55 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=8568.msg108836#msg108836 date=1171437558]
The detergent I use isn't a matter of a thousand dollars, though.

So everything over an arbitrary threshold shouldn't be allowed to advertise?
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Warrior on February 14, 2007, 11:56:47 AM
The UAC one is inaccurate on so many levels. But it was clever and I laughed.

Oh well, they'll still have 5% marketshare and they'll still claim they're "winning" something.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: disco on February 14, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6490/macpcyj9.jpg)
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: CrAz3D on February 14, 2007, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: disco on February 14, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6490/macpcyj9.jpg)
good point...

Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Chavo on February 14, 2007, 03:30:14 PM
thats the whole point of the ad, they aren't trying to sell the product to businesses... they want to entice home and casual users
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Sidoh on February 14, 2007, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: disco on February 14, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6490/macpcyj9.jpg)

I'd have to interview them.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Newby on February 15, 2007, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: Quik on February 14, 2007, 02:10:37 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=8568.msg108817#msg108817 date=1171430267]
The thing that pisses me off is that these commercials are sort of taking advantage of people who simply don't have a clue of what's going on. Sure, it's their fault, but I wouldn't want it happening to me, and it's definately not moral to do so

As opposed to all other commercials, that don't do this.

People don't expose flaws in advertising? WHY THE FUCK NOT?!?!?!?
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Joe on February 15, 2007, 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: disco on February 14, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6490/macpcyj9.jpg)

I'm not quite sure who you're promoting with that. It sort of pains me to say this, but I'd hire the teenager though. Men who show up in business suits make shitty lifeguards.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: iago on February 15, 2007, 06:46:06 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 14, 2007, 04:17:42 PM
I'd have to interview them.
Agreed. Though typically, in the computer industry younger people are generally better. The old guy looks to stuffy/old fashioned, which is generally a bad thing. Younger, more energetic, and dynamic people are the way to go.

Also, if the old guy needs an operation every time he upgrades, he'd cost the healthplan a lot, too.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Super_X on February 15, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: iago on February 15, 2007, 06:46:06 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 14, 2007, 04:17:42 PM
I'd have to interview them.
Agreed. Though typically, in the computer industry younger people are generally better. The old guy looks to stuffy/old fashioned, which is generally a bad thing. Younger, more energetic, and dynamic people are the way to go.

Also, if the old guy needs an operation every time he upgrades, he'd cost the healthplan a lot, too.
Right, so the best way to solve that is kill them and get a new employee each time.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: iago on February 15, 2007, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: Super_X on February 15, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
Right, so the best way to solve that is kill them and get a new employee each time.
Well, that depends what's cheaper: training a new employee or paying for an operation for the old one.

If you're starting with nobody, you obviously need to train, but once you already have an employee, you have to balance training with operation.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Super_X on February 16, 2007, 02:15:53 AM
Quote from: iago on February 15, 2007, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: Super_X on February 15, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
Right, so the best way to solve that is kill them and get a new employee each time.
Well, that depends what's cheaper: training a new employee or paying for an operation for the old one.

If you're starting with nobody, you obviously need to train, but once you already have an employee, you have to balance training with operation.
Alright, now that we have that down, lets go back to the fiscal area of computers. Is it more expencive to have an upgrade every couple of years, or a new computer every four, or five years? (I am not actually sure which would cost more, I have a feeling it'd be more expencive to be a new computer, but that's my uneducated guess.)
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Sidoh on February 16, 2007, 04:01:34 AM
That obviously depends on a lot of things.  What kind of upgrades would you plan on adding?  How much does a desirable (in your opinion) new computer cost?
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: Super_X on February 16, 2007, 04:16:25 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 16, 2007, 04:01:34 AM
That obviously depends on a lot of things.  What kind of upgrades would you plan on adding?  How much does a desirable (in your opinion) new computer cost?
I know it's quite dependant, but I was thinking: "I would already have most of the stuff, I'd just need to buy a few new things like RAM, video card, and (according to that lame commercial) a new proccessor. Assuming that all fits on your motherboard, that's less than an equivilant new computer, yeah?"
So, that's just what I was basing my oppinion on.
Title: Re: The man behind the PC/Mac/Linux
Post by: iago on February 16, 2007, 09:08:34 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I was talking about a person!

Of course, if you want to run Vista, all you really need, according to Dell, is 512mb:
(http://www.javaop.com/~ron/images/screenshots/baddell.png)

The only problem is, all you can do is boot your computer, maybe change the wallpaper, and wait for it to catch on fire. Since when was " Booting the Operating System, without running applications or games" a big feature? 

(screenshot is real, I took it: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/solutions/en/winvista?c=us&l=en&s=gen&redirect=1)