Poll
Question:
Guess my sat score
Option 1: 1900-2100
Option 2: 1600-1800
Option 3: 1500-1600
Option 4: 1400-1500
Option 5: Who gives a shit about SAT scores
Ok so i get my sat scores back and i thought i did really well cause i added up all my scores and added in my essay. but i turns out i wasn't suppose to add my essay score and well i did far worse :(
any one care to guess my sat reasoning score?
2100?................stupid new scale thingy
Quote from: CrAz3D on May 29, 2007, 11:15:14 PM
2100?................stupid new scale thingy
it actually goes to 2400 i was too lazy to put it :P
923.
I'm Canadian, and as such I have no idea what you're talking about. So I picked the last one. :)
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
I'm Canadian, and as such I have no idea what you're talking about. So I picked the last one. :)
Same.
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
I'm Canadian, and as such I have no idea what you're talking about. So I picked the last one. :)
The SAT is the standardize testing for college that everyone has to take before going to college
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on May 30, 2007, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
I'm Canadian, and as such I have no idea what you're talking about. So I picked the last one. :)
The SAT is the standardize testing for college that everyone has to take before going to college
That's approximately what I already knew. But I don't know what the scores mean, nor do I know what a "good" or "bad" score is.
Why can't they just grade it as a percentage?
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on May 30, 2007, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
I'm Canadian, and as such I have no idea what you're talking about. So I picked the last one. :)
The SAT is the standardize testing for college that everyone has to take before going to college
not exactly, but ok.
Some of us take the ACT. Depends where you want to go
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 08:49:42 AM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on May 30, 2007, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
I'm Canadian, and as such I have no idea what you're talking about. So I picked the last one. :)
The SAT is the standardize testing for college that everyone has to take before going to college
That's approximately what I already knew. But I don't know what the scores mean, nor do I know what a "good" or "bad" score is.
Why can't they just grade it as a percentage?
Because you can still get a 400 without doing anything.
Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 10:08:52 AM
Because you can still get a 400 without doing anything.
So you get a 17% for doing nothing. Big deal?
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 10:08:52 AM
Because you can still get a 400 without doing anything.
So you get a 17% for doing nothing. Big deal?
That doesn't equate to a 17% if that's the lowest you can get...it'd be like a 0% since you cant go lower
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 10:08:52 AM
Because you can still get a 400 without doing anything.
So you get a 17% for doing nothing. Big deal?
Percentages would provide a false representation of your score. You say getting a 400 is 17%, but it really isn't. 17% would imply that on the test, if it was 100 reading and 100 math questions, one would get 34 correct, which in the case of the SAT, is incorrect. For the raw score, you get 1 point for a correct answer, 0 points for a blank, and -0.25 for an erroneous answer. Using percentages wouldn't be logical in this case, imo.
So how did you do?
Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 01:56:02 PM
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 10:08:52 AM
Because you can still get a 400 without doing anything.
So you get a 17% for doing nothing. Big deal?
Percentages would provide a false representation of your score. You say getting a 400 is 17%, but it really isn't. 17% would imply that on the test, if it was 100 reading and 100 math questions, one would get 34 correct, which in the case of the SAT, is incorrect. For the raw score, you get 1 point for a correct answer, 0 points for a blank, and -0.25 for an erroneous answer. Using percentages wouldn't be logical in this case, imo.
Sure it would. Just curve it downwards. All correct = 100%, all blank = 0%, any wrong = >0%. Or, go through it manually and curve the incorrect answers back to a 0 and then apply the previous curve, so it'd act like a normal test.
That doesn't make sense. What if someone got every answer incorrect? He would have a negative percentage, and what would that represent? Doing worse than possible?
See, it's confusing. It would make more sense if they could reduce it to a percentage between 0 and 100, I think. It'll probably never change, but that doesn't stop it from being silly.
Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 03:22:16 PM
That doesn't make sense. What if someone got every answer incorrect? He would have a negative percentage, and what would that represent? Doing worse than possible?
Yeah. But I think it's a pretty stupid, hence recommending curving each incorrect answer back to 0.
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Quote from: Deuce on May 30, 2007, 03:22:16 PM
That doesn't make sense. What if someone got every answer incorrect? He would have a negative percentage, and what would that represent? Doing worse than possible?
Yeah. But I think it's a pretty stupid, hence recommending curving each incorrect answer back to 0.
Or maybe they could just round it to -1 and laugh when you can't get into college?
I don't know what is good and what is bad on the SAT because I only had to take the ACT and only focused on that. So I also picked the last one.
The way I figured out which scores were good and bad on the ACT was looking at the average scores, what I needed to get into the college I wanted, and then the best possible score. If I knew what all of those were for the SAT I could figure out what I wanted and what I personally would considered good. It's not too confusing if you have the information you need, but most people don't. I agree with iago for the most part though. It would be relatively easier to understand and if it was on a normal percentage based scale.
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 05:01:34 PM
See, it's confusing. It would make more sense if they could reduce it to a percentage between 0 and 100, I think. It'll probably never change, but that doesn't stop it from being silly.
It's not that silly. When you receive your SAT score you receive a grade out of 800 for each section you write (this is the way it used to be at least), and
you also receive the percentile you place in on each section. Your score out of 800 is primarily determined by your percentile score, and so the college board scores are less confusing than a raw or scaled percentage grade.
You then might think it would be more clear to just give a grade out of 100 that represents the percentile grade, but that isn't really the case. From test to test there will be a slight variation in the types of questions, difficulty of questions, and quality of students taking the test, and so this is all taken into account as well when assigning the grade out of 800. So avoiding numbers like "100" dodges the confusion that would arise out of interpreting the SAT score as solely a percentage or percentile grade.
The system makes perfect sense and it's well thought out.
Quote from: Rule on May 30, 2007, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: iago on May 30, 2007, 05:01:34 PM
See, it's confusing. It would make more sense if they could reduce it to a percentage between 0 and 100, I think. It'll probably never change, but that doesn't stop it from being silly.
It's not that silly. When you receive your SAT score you receive a grade out of 800 for each section you write (this is the way it used to be at least), and you also receive the percentile you place in on each section. Your score out of 800 is primarily determined by your percentile score, and so the college board scores are less confusing than a raw or scaled percentage grade.
You then might think it would be more clear to just give a grade out of 100 that represents the percentile grade, but that isn't really the case. From test to test there will be a slight variation in the types of questions, difficulty of questions, and quality of students taking the test, and so this is all taken into account as well when assigning the grade out of 800. So avoiding numbers like "100" dodges the confusion that would arise out of interpreting the SAT score as solely a percentage or percentile grade.
The system makes perfect sense and it's well thought out.
And gets more confusing every time I learn more about it! :P
HOW it works isn't supposed to make sense to anyone outside the grading system. THAT it works is all people care about. I still say it's a crappy way to do it. I mean, a single 6 hour test? What if someone is sick and isn't even a good tester in the first place?
its 6 hrs now?!
Quote from: rabbit on May 31, 2007, 08:18:00 AM
What if someone is sick
Then they should delay writing?
6 hours does seem excessive though. I think it was 3.5 hours when I wrote it.
Ha, yeah, it's not actually six hours. The actual test is almost four hours.
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on May 29, 2007, 11:07:49 PM
Ok so i get my sat scores back and i thought i did really well cause i added up all my scores and added in my essay. but i turns out i wasn't suppose to add my essay score and well i did far worse :(
any one care to guess my sat reasoning score?
Well if you remove the essay score then your score is out of 1600.
It doesn't really matter that much anyway, I had like an 1800 or 1840 or something and I got into my 1st choice so...
It was six hours both times I took it :\
You took the new one?
Man, mine was like 3-4... 8am til noon or so. (before the change)
Noobs. I got a 1600 easy.
..With all three scores combined.
Quote from: Deuce on May 31, 2007, 11:01:56 PM
Noobs. I got a 1600 easy.
..With all three scores combined.
i wasn't feeling good that day.
1. my stomach was growling the whole time i was in the place
2. the people around me were bugging the shit out of me.
3. my proctor lady didn't tell me the time or any thing
WHAT WAS YOUR SCORE ALREADY DAMN IT!?
Quote from: Ergot on May 31, 2007, 11:34:59 PM
WHAT WAS YOUR SCORE ALREADY DAMN IT!?
ok ok calm down.... i was going to post it sooner or later.. chill.
Critical Reading 470
Math 530
Writing 460
arg :( o well i am definitely taking it again...
You better...
Yeah. Damn. or take the ACT, it's easier, shorter, and has more sex appeal.
Quote from: Trust on June 01, 2007, 09:45:43 AM
Yeah. Damn. or take the ACT, it's easier, shorter, and has more sex appeal.
taking that in 2 weeks
Christ... that's below average...
What did you get on the PSAT?
Quote from: Newby on June 02, 2007, 09:43:16 AM
Christ... that's below average...
What did you get on the PSAT?
Just what I was thinking lol. Wow I thought you could do better... you should retake it++++++
Quote from: Towelie on June 03, 2007, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: Newby on June 02, 2007, 09:43:16 AM
Christ... that's below average...
What did you get on the PSAT?
Just what I was thinking lol. Wow I thought you could do better... you should retake it++++++
duhh to much sake the night before :P
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on June 03, 2007, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: Towelie on June 03, 2007, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: Newby on June 02, 2007, 09:43:16 AM
Christ... that's below average...
What did you get on the PSAT?
Just what I was thinking lol. Wow I thought you could do better... you should retake it++++++
duhh to much sake the night before :P
You are an idiot.
Quote from: Towelie on June 03, 2007, 11:31:00 PM
You are an idiot.
i totally forgot i had the sat until my dad said i had to leave for granit (the test center)