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Title: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Blaze on June 14, 2007, 12:43:41 PM
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=747fd81c-d834-4385-94f1-25043051e2e7&k=17594

This makes me sick.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: trust on June 14, 2007, 12:59:57 PM
He should sue.
Title: Re: Student suspended as they did "threaten him wifter voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Hitmen on June 14, 2007, 01:01:54 PM
Mmmm sensationalism. If you could read, he wasn't suspended for voicing his opinion on marijuana.

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King and his brother Lucas were given three-day-suspensions for disobeying the lockdown.

While it says they did "threaten him with police action" and "accuse him of using and selling marijuana at school", which is still pretty ridiculous, they didn't suspend him just for saying what he said. And walking out of school is definately not freedom of expression, though he has every right to do it, they have every right to punish him for it.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: CrAz3D on June 14, 2007, 01:57:04 PM
Well, he got what was coming.  Threatening with police action because of what he said was stupid, but walking out during a lockdown and being upset for being punished for breaking the rules is stupid too
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: iago on June 14, 2007, 02:19:36 PM
Well, if he was suspended for promoting marijuana, I still think it would have been ok. I mean, if he promoted murder or rape or drinking and driving, I would expect action to be taken. And when it comes down to it, a law's a law, even if you don't agree with it.

I suppose "freedom of speech" might come into play, but eh.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: CrAz3D on June 14, 2007, 02:39:50 PM
He didnt promote it per se, he just said that it is not worse than alcohol and tobacco.
Also, like Hitmen said, he was suspended for leaving during a lockdown (the lockdown was initiated, it seems, to stop a walkout which was to protest the kid being threatened with legal action for saying 'weed isnt worse than booze').

The kid being threatened with police action is the only thing that seems wrong in this.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Warrior on June 14, 2007, 04:30:16 PM
The whole thing is fucking stupid, putting the school in a lockdown to stop a protest?
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: CrAz3D on June 14, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=9620.msg122145#msg122145 date=1181853016]
The whole thing is fucking stupid, putting the school in a lockdown to stop a protest?
..to stop a walkout

I think they have to try everything to prevent stuff like that.

A principal at a highschool in El Paso, TX ALLOWED a protest during lunch break (kids were already off already).  Police were present just to make sure things were ok.  Lunch ended, kids didn't return to class, police started taking kids back to class, kids threw stuff at cops, kids = in jail.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Super_X on June 14, 2007, 05:21:06 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 14, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=9620.msg122145#msg122145 date=1181853016]
The whole thing is fucking stupid, putting the school in a lockdown to stop a protest?
..to stop a walkout

I think they have to try everything to prevent stuff like that.

A principal at a highschool in El Paso, TX ALLOWED a protest during lunch break (kids were already off already).  Police were present just to make sure things were ok.  Lunch ended, kids didn't return to class, police started taking kids back to class, kids threw stuff at cops, kids = in jail.

That sounds like it's the kids' own damn fault for throwing shit at the cops.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: CrAz3D on June 14, 2007, 07:27:51 PM
...it is
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Warrior on June 14, 2007, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 14, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=9620.msg122145#msg122145 date=1181853016]
The whole thing is fucking stupid, putting the school in a lockdown to stop a protest?
..to stop a walkout

I think they have to try everything to prevent stuff like that.

A principal at a highschool in El Paso, TX ALLOWED a protest during lunch break (kids were already off already).  Police were present just to make sure things were ok.  Lunch ended, kids didn't return to class, police started taking kids back to class, kids threw stuff at cops, kids = in jail.


Let the kids suffer the consequences of their actions. It's the backhand of protest, you expect whoever you're protesting against to Bend over Backwards?

Putting the school in a lockdown to prevent a person or a group of people from voicing their opinion is ridiculous. Let them walk out and face the consequences. Restriction expression breed pansies and conformists, the opposite of what this country was founded on. If I have a problem with something, I'm damn sure going to say it and I'll say it loudly. 
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Killer360 on June 15, 2007, 09:55:22 PM
And why was my post deleted... ?
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: CrAz3D on June 15, 2007, 09:56:35 PM
http://www.x86labs.org:81/forum/index.php/topic,9630.msg122139/boardseen.html#new

It moved
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Sidoh on June 15, 2007, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: Killer360 on June 15, 2007, 09:55:22 PM
And why was my post deleted... ?

It wasn't.  I'm tired of hearing "why Marijuana should be legal" and I'm pretty sure most people here agree.  If you want to spark a debate, make another topic.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Killer360 on June 16, 2007, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on June 15, 2007, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: Killer360 on June 15, 2007, 09:55:22 PM
And why was my post deleted... ?

It wasn't.  I'm tired of hearing "why Marijuana should be legal" and I'm pretty sure most people here agree.  If you want to spark a debate, make another topic.

I wasn't debating, I was agreeing with the kid in the article.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: psychspy on June 16, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
I wasn't debating legality, but like my response says in the split-off topic, since these forums have been bombarded with the issue, I can tell why it got moved without much consideration.

It's the fact that the legality of these things are what they are that make these people act the way they do.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: Sidoh on June 17, 2007, 12:39:52 AM
Quote from: psychspy on June 16, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
I wasn't debating legality, but like my response says in the split-off topic, since these forums have been bombarded with the issue, I can tell why it got moved without much consideration.

It's the fact that the legality of these things are what they are that make these people act the way they do.  It is what it is.


You're right, but your post could have easily started the debate.  In fact, I would be surprised if it didn't.

Humorously, I don't think it accomplished much in keeping this thread on topic, lol.
Title: Re: Student suspended after voicing marijuana opinion
Post by: iago on June 17, 2007, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on June 17, 2007, 12:39:52 AM
Quote from: psychspy on June 16, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
I wasn't debating legality, but like my response says in the split-off topic, since these forums have been bombarded with the issue, I can tell why it got moved without much consideration.

It's the fact that the legality of these things are what they are that make these people act the way they do.  It is what it is.


You're right, but your post could have easily started the debate.  In fact, I would be surprised if it didn't.

Humorously, I don't think it accomplished much in keeping this thread on topic, lol.

It's like I said in the other thread (or maybe this one?), he posted the wrong thing in the wrong thread. The discussion is going fine in the off-topic thread and was totally derailed here as a result. If you want to do some surgery and connect the working parts, you have my blessing. :P