What classes is everyone taking for the fall semester?
MAT 101 -- Introductory Algebra Essentials
SCI 200 -- Biology Essentials
ENG 100 -- Everyday Language and Literature Essentials
SOC 200 -- World History Essentials
TCH 311 -- Programming: C++
HPE 110 -- Skills for Health
As you can sort of see, I started a different school so some of the class chains are totally fucked. Everything on there except for Health and Programming are Freshman classes, but whatever, it'll be easy that way. :)
GVFA 101 Introduction to American Government (MWF 8:30am-9:20am)
SPAN 101 Introductory Spanish I (MWF 10:30-11:20am)
RHET 101 Principles/Practice of Good Writing (TR 10:00am-11:20am)
PHIL 102 Introduction to Philosophy (MWF 9:30am-10:20am)
WCUL 101 Western Culture: Beginning to 900 C.E. (TR 8:30am-9:50am)
5 and 6 classes? Go learn more you slackers.
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 01:00:27 PM
5 and 6 classes? Go learn more you slackers.
I'm only taking 4 classes at the U of MN, but that's 16 credits worth. :P
CHEM 1021- Chemical Principles I
STAT 1001- Introduction to Statistics
MATH 1281- Calculus w/ Biological Emphasis I
HIST 1015W- World History since 1950
You're all slackers.
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 01:37:21 PM
You're all slackers.
I think I have 6, but I'm pretty sure that's more than the average person takes. Maybe things work differently at your university? How many are you taking?
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 01:37:21 PM
You're all slackers.
The most I'm allowed to take (without instructor approval) is 18. I don't feel like being a bum and haven't a buttload of work and not socialize, so I settled for 12-16.
Quote from: Sidoh on August 10, 2007, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 01:37:21 PM
You're all slackers.
I think I have 6, but I'm pretty sure that's more than the average person takes. Maybe things work differently at your university? How many are you taking?
Normally I have 10 or so.
I'm wondering why I'm not scheduled for more (I signed up for Spanish and Latin), but since it's online I can finish this semester and start a new one whenever I feel like it.
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 03:56:13 PM
Normally I have 10 or so.
CLASSES? How many credits?
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 03:56:13 PM
Normally I have 10 or so.
What does the average person take at your university? Like I said, maybe things work differently.
Are you trying to graduate early? I'm certainly not.
Yeah my schedule = 15 credits, and they said we should take between 15 and 17 first semester.
Quote from: deadly7 on August 10, 2007, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 03:56:13 PM
Normally I have 10 or so.
CLASSES? How many credits?
I usually take 19 or 20. I had 22 first term, but that was because of an extra little project I did before term started for a bonus 2 credits :D
Quote from: Sidoh on August 10, 2007, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 03:56:13 PM
Normally I have 10 or so.
What does the average person take at your university? Like I said, maybe things work differently.
Are you trying to graduate early? I'm certainly not.
The entire University is something like 14 credits, but the engineering colleges are averaged at 20. They all SAY to take 12, but the number of required classes for the first 2 years require at least 16 for the first 1.5 years strait. Bleh.
Quote from: rabbit on August 10, 2007, 05:58:30 PM
I usually take 19 or 20. I had 22 first term, but that was because of an extra little project I did before term started for a bonus
I had 19 last semester, and honestly, I didn't think it was that bad. Honestly, I didn't really notice a huge difference in workload from first semester, where I had 15 credit hours. I did, however, feel like I wouldn't have enough free time to comfortably take another class on. That could have been because I was in a 2 credit hour class where we were usually in class for 5 hours a week, though (plus we were expected to spend a lot of time outside of class working on our projects with our team. probably an average of 4 hours or something like that), so that could have amounted to the allotted time of a 4-5 credit hour class.
What classes are you taking if you have 10 classes and 20 credit hours? An average of 2 credits per class doesn't seem right if you're taking engineering, physics and mathematics courses. The ones at my university are normally 4+ credits. Last semester (19 credit hours), I had 5 classes. :-\
Yeah, a requirement of 16 credit hours (to graduate in time) isn't that bad. It's probably slightly less for a computer science major, but I have minors in mathematics and physics, so it probably chalks up to around 16 as well.
I refuse to look at my schedule again until the day before classes
Let's see.
Class, Credits, Hours/Week
Chemistry + Lab + Recitation, 4 credits, 5 hours
Physics + Lab + Recitation, 4 credits, 5 hours
Calc (or other math) + Recitation, 3 credits, 4 hours
tDEC (forget what it meants), 3 credits, 3 hours
University 101 (lame), 2 credits, 1 hour
English, 3 credits, 3 hours
History, 3 credits, 3 hours
Free Elective, 1-4 credits, hours range
Liberal Elective, 1-4 credits, hours range
The first 5 are required at certain times, the last 4 are required prior to certain times. For instance, English and history are required before end of Pre-Junior year, and electives before end of Senior
Was that your schedule one of the semesters or are you just listing classes required by your college? That's a minimum of 22 credit hours. :-\
I said not all were required at the same time :\
We're limited to 20 credits per term. The problem is that with most of the engineering majors, the second half of Junior year and all of Senior year are filled every term, so getting in the electives and English/History requirements isn't [usually] possible.
O, and I also forgot to mention the Engineering core, which is 3 credits and 3 hours.
My schedule for last term is here (http://liquid-server.org/schedule.htm), and an incomplete schedule from the term before is here (http://www.liquid-server.org/images/schedule.png).
I am smart, and I was when I was taking my placement tests, and I took the English Honors placement and got in. Since I got an A in that course, my 100 level English requirement was met (in 1 term, woot!), so all I need is 201 and I'm done my English.
Your college sounds like it sucks.
O. Chem, Engineering Physics I, Engineering Physics II, Applied Diff. Eqns. I, Elementary Linear Algebra, and Engineering Physics II. I think that's all of them. It's only 18 credit hours. :-\
On a side note, my first semester, I had 15 credit hours, and I had a really hard time keeping up. Then again, I had to basically read a novel every week for one of my courses. But second semester, I had 15 credit hours again, and it was a total joke. I beat so many video games second semester; I rule!
AP English Lit
AP Comparative Gov't/Econ.
AP Calc
AP Physics
In no particular order. (other than the order of least favorite to favorite.)
Quote from: leet_muffin on August 10, 2007, 10:59:33 PM
AP English Lit
AP Comparative Gov't/Econ.
AP Physics
Fuck yes.
My schedule:
1. AP Comparative Gov't
2. AP Physics C
3. Teacher's Aide (pending)
4. AP English Lit
5. AP Chemistry
8. Honors Senior Seminar
9. Community College
I'm hoping #3 comes through and ends up being a cool/tolerable teacher (I know of one cool one and only a couple tolerable ones) or else I'm superscrewed and might end up being forced to take percussion or T.A. for a teacher that sucks. :/
sorry I'm not breaking my back with school work rabbit. I'll take an easy course load over a tough one any day, especially first semester freshman year. I'll have plenty of work to do the remaining 7 semesters and 3 years of law school. I want to enjoy these years. Everyone that graduates from Hampden-Sydney says they wish they could go back and how it's a magical place and really savor the experience and have fun, and I intend to. If that means taking 5 classes instead of 10, so be it.
Quote from: deadly7 on August 10, 2007, 09:27:05 PM
Your college sounds like it sucks.
Eh...it's alright.
Quote from: Trust on August 11, 2007, 11:45:23 AM
sorry I'm not breaking my back with school work rabbit. I'll take an easy course load over a tough one any day, especially first semester freshman year. I'll have plenty of work to do the remaining 7 semesters and 3 years of law school. I want to enjoy these years. Everyone that graduates from Hampden-Sydney says they wish they could go back and how it's a magical place and really savor the experience and have fun, and I intend to. If that means taking 5 classes instead of 10, so be it.
Okay. I'm going to laugh when you apply to law school and get rejected for not having enough prereqs and credits, though.
Uh how could I not have enough credits? They're required to graduate...
Arg. I'm going to a comunity college because I'm poor, and with scholorships/grants I will probably be able to cover everything including books, and maybe a laptop...
I do (did?) have an interesting transportation problem though. The campus in my town is within walking distance, maybe 45 minutes to an hour. But all of the computer science classes are 20 miles away at the other campus. They have a shuttle bus that runs twice a day both ways, but it conflicts with the possible times of some of my classes. Luckily my mom is awesome and her changing her work schedule to help me out, and once class is at the campus here, so I don't need to worry about transportation then.
Moday:
Calculus II 8:00-8:50
Programing I 10:00-10:50
Intro to Computation 11:00-11:50
Tuesday:
College Writing 10:00-11:50
Wednesday:
Programming I 10:00-10:50
Intro to Computation 11:00-11:50
Programming I Lab 1:00-2:50
Thursday:
College Writing 10:00-11:50
Friday:
Calculus II 8:00-8:50
Programming I 10:00-10:50
My calculus AP credit will work.....but not my APCS one, they don't take it. I *might* be able to get out of it by talking to the teacher though. But if I do, and get into Programming II it will conflict with other classes on my schedule... arg. And intro to computation isn't like, "this is how to use MS word" like I thought it was by the name, it's "Mathematical and logical concepts of algorithms and underlying computer applications, including graph theory, trees, finite automata, recursion, combinatorics (no idea wtf that is), boolean algebra and propositional calculus." I was originally in dismay at the fact that I had to take something called "Intro to computation"... but now I'm excited. :D
1. AP Music Theory (choir)
2. AP English Language
3. AP Gov't/Politics
4. Peer tutoring for a pre-calc class (supposed to be taking AP Calc BC instead, but it was only offered 1st period, the period the choir I am in is)
5. AP Psychology
Quote from: Towelie on August 15, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
1. AP Music Theory (choir)
2. AP English Language
3. AP Gov't/Politics
4. Peer tutoring for a pre-calc class (supposed to be taking AP Calc BC instead, but it was only offered 1st period, the period the choir I am in is)
5. AP Psychology
YO DO YOU WANT MY AP GOVT REVIEW BOOK?
Quote from: Trust on August 15, 2007, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: Towelie on August 15, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
1. AP Music Theory (choir)
2. AP English Language
3. AP Gov't/Politics
4. Peer tutoring for a pre-calc class (supposed to be taking AP Calc BC instead, but it was only offered 1st period, the period the choir I am in is)
5. AP Psychology
YO DO YOU WANT MY AP GOVT REVIEW BOOK?
ILL PRAISE YOU WITH ESEX
Quote from: Trust on August 15, 2007, 09:09:52 PM
YO DO YOU WANT MY AP GOVT REVIEW BOOK?
I'll fight Towlie for it and winner takes all. then we can post the fight on youtube :)
but anyways
1. Ap Gov
2. Cp english
3.Ap Calc
4. Teaches Aid
5. Asb( Student Body)
I am soo going to love this year. the only classes where i have to try are Ap Gov and Calc.
How u niggaz get schedulz?
American Gov't/Economics
Adv Band 2-4
English Lit/Comp AP
Spanish Lang AP
Psychology
Calculus AB AP
Sucks I have a first period :(.
1. AP English Lit
2. AP Physics C
3. Teacher's Aide for my AP Spanish Teacher (counts as a full class since I might tutor kids who need help/fall behind)
4. AP Comparative Government
5. AP Chemistry
1. AP Comparative Government
2. AP Physics C (with Newbis.)
3. Photo (soon to be dropped.)
4. AP English Lit
5. AP Calculus AB
7:30-12:30. Win.
GOVT 399 M01 3.000 NEW MEXICO LAW
GOVT 340 M01 3.000 STATE & LOCAL GOVT
GOVT 345 M01 3.000 THE SUPREME COURT
GOVT 366 M01 3.000 AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY
GOVT 321 M01 3.000 TOPICS PUBLIC POLICY
HL S 301G M84 3.000 HUMAN SEXUALITY
Total Credit Hours: 18.000
I'm psyched for my GOVT 340 (State & Local GOVT) class! I read through the intro and about our research project, sounds exciting! We have to pick 2 neighborhoods and do, basically, a socio-economic analysis of each and write a final paper that compares/contrasts them. I already have the EXACT places in mind. They're literally right across the main road/highway from eaceh other but SIGNIFICANTLY different in terms of population, density, land type, income levels, and I'm sure everything else will end up being a complete reverse from the other.
Then my Supreme Court class, mad fun!!
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Calculus III has an assload of homework, although it isn't worth much of the final grade (75/650 ~= 11.5%). We had a small assignment today, which I have yet to start. Apparently, all weekly assignments are due on Friday, so at least there is some leeway. It's actually outside of the required mathematics for a computer science degree here, but I want to go through at least Differential Equations.
As you can see, Tuesdays are pretty busy. I'm hoping it won't be too much. Unfortunately, the majority of the classes I need to take this semester are only offered on Tuesdays/Thursdays, so I don't think I'll have much luck shifting things around.
Here's a short description of each of the not-so-intuitively-titled courses (the CS classes):
CS 200 -- The title explains the course pretty well, but from what I've heard, it's pretty easy. I think the language used is Java.
CS 270 -- This is an introductory class to low level programming, I think (ASM/C++). I haven't really looked into it much.
It's 17 credit hours. It should be a pretty easy semester, but I guess we'll see. I'm not taking a Physics course, which will help with the amount of homework and studying, I guess, but in the past, they've been the most interesting classes. Oh well...
Quote from: Sidoh on August 20, 2007, 05:57:56 PM
Calculus III has an assload of homework, although it isn't worth much of the final grade (75/650 ~= 11.5%). We had a small assignment today, which I have yet to start. Apparently, all weekly assignments are due on Friday, so at least there is some leeway. It's actually outside of the required mathematics for a computer science degree here, but I want to go through at least Differential Equations.
As you can see, Tuesdays are pretty busy. I'm hoping it won't be too much. Unfortunately, the majority of the classes I need to take this semester are only offered on Tuesdays/Thursdays, so I don't think I'll have much luck shifting things around.
Here's a short description of each of the not-so-intuitively-titled courses (the CS classes):
CS 200 -- The title explains the course pretty well, but from what I've heard, it's pretty easy. I think the language used is Java.
CS 270 -- This is an introductory class to low level programming, I think (ASM/C++). I haven't really looked into it much.
It's 17 credit hours. It should be a pretty easy semester, but I guess we'll see. I'm not taking a Physics course, which will help with the amount of homework and studying, I guess, but in the past, they've been the most interesting classes. Oh well...
My engineering buddies have crap tons of homework, too. None of it counts for a grade, though :-\
Man, all day T & Th. Sad. I go from 930-1230 MWF, and 9-1135 TR
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 20, 2007, 06:22:34 PM
My engineering buddies have crap tons of homework, too. None of it counts for a grade, though :-\
Man, all day T & Th. Sad. I go from 930-1230 MWF, and 9-1135 TR
Calculus III is still pretty much an "introductory" course. There are a few high school students in my class, which didn't surprise me too much. Doing well in Calculus BC (and perhaps a teacher's recommendation) is all it takes to be able to enroll in Calc III here from what I've heard. I imagine that homework becomes a less integral part of math courses as you go on. That seems to have been the trend so far.
Unfortunately, that's pretty much unavoidable. I think speech is offered MWF. I might switch to that, but I sort of like having MWF to do homework and study.
At least you have breaks in between your Tuesday... my Wednesday is 8:00-4:10PM constant (excluding 15 minutes in between classes). :|
Quote from: deadly7 on August 20, 2007, 09:32:21 PM
At least you have breaks in between your Tuesday... my Wednesday is 8:00-4:10PM constant (excluding 15 minutes in between classes). :|
That sucks. Is this on the college campus? It takes about 15 minutes to get from one end of the campus to the other (it's about a mile any way you go) and classes are often in buildings that aren't close to each other.
How do you plan on eating lunch? I don't really have time to go get anything on Tuesdays or Thursdays, so I plan to either bring some cash so I can get some fast food in the student center (they have Carl's Junior, Taco Bell, Subway, etc) or pack some granola bars or something like that.
Quote from: Sidoh on August 20, 2007, 09:41:44 PM
That sucks. Is this on the college campus? It takes about 15 minutes to get from one end of the campus to the other (it's about a mile any way you go) and classes are often in buildings that aren't close to each other.
How do you plan on eating lunch? I don't really have time to go get anything on Tuesdays or Thursdays, so I plan to either bring some cash so I can get some fast food in the student center (they have Carl's Junior, Taco Bell, Subway, etc) or pack some granola bars or something like that.
Yeah, it's on the college campus. I start in the Twin Cities east bank and then have to walk across to the west bank--but there's a bus that drops me off like right in front of some of my classes, so that == super awesome.
I dunno about lunch. I might just bring a lunch from home that day or something.. I'll be awfully hungry, that's all I know. :|
Calc III? I know I'm supposed to take 'intermediate calculus' for passing the calculus BC exam...
Quote from: Newby on August 20, 2007, 10:46:55 PM
Calc III? I know I'm supposed to take 'intermediate calculus' for passing the calculus BC exam...
I'm not sure. Like I've mentioned before, my high school didn't have an AP program. These kids said they took the "equivalent of Calculus II" and when the instructor asked for clarification, they said they passed the AP Calc BC exam. One was a junior and a few others were seniors. I presume that they were all exceptional mathematics students, though.
Ah, that's neat. :D
Well, I just got my school timetable today. It's all fucked up like usual. Apparently I only get two academic classes a day. :D This has happened every single year at my school -- they just can't seem to get anything right.
I'll post it when everything gets sorted out.
P.S.: Oh yeah, they added another class to my daily schedule this year. Sucks ass.
Quote from: Sidoh on August 20, 2007, 06:36:40 PM
Unfortunately, that's pretty much unavoidable. I think speech is offered MWF. I might switch to that, but I sort of like having MWF to do homework and study.
oooh. I schedule everything that I can in the mornings so that I can work in the afternoons. MWF I figure I'll end up being a half hour late to work as my class ends at 1230 and works starts at 1 (I need time to drive home and eat). It seems sad that I'm driving the whole 2 miles to class MWF, but if I don't that's 20 minutes killed each day.
Quote from: Towelie on August 15, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
1. AP Music Theory (choir)
2. AP English Language
3. AP Gov't/Politics
4. Peer tutoring for a pre-calc class (supposed to be taking AP Calc BC instead, but it was only offered 1st period, the period the choir I am in is)
5. AP Psychology
Nvm, instead of being a peer tutor, I just sit in the honors pre-calc class and learn the shit on my own like I would in the AP Calc AB class, so 4th period is now AP Calc. BC
I dont even know which classes I have tomorrow to bring the books for. I'm just guessing off of my best recollection of when I bought books ::)
eh well
MATH 2433 CAL/ANLY GEOM III
MWF 01:30 PM - 02:20 PM
METR 2011 INTRO-METR I LAB
M 03:45 PM - 05:45 PM
METR 2013 INTRO-METEOROLOGY I
TR 11:30 AM - 12:45 PM
PHYS 1321 GEN PHYSICS LAB II
R 07:00 PM - 09:20 PM
PHYS 2524 GEN PHYS FOR ENGRS
MWF 11:30 AM - 12:20 PM
PHYS 2524 DISC-PHYS 2524
T 09:30 AM - 10:20 AM
This is my lovely schedule. Discussion for physics is optional(read: I won't be going) so thats kinda nice. But the other stuff will be kinda nasty. I also work part time (for $8/hour :( ) whenever I can which hopefully will be a bit since my cubicle is 3 floors above my Intro to Metr I class and a floor below the Intro to Metr I Lab.
Subject to change (and most likely will):
ENGL 335, MWF 10:00 AM - 10:50 AM
Math 123, MTWR 11:00 AM - 11:50 AM
JAPN 201, TR 7:00 PM - 8:20 PM
LANG 180-002 (Japanese Writing II), TBA
I've got a few other courses lined up right now, but I need to work everything out with my advisor.
Quote from: rabbit on August 27, 2007, 12:18:01 PM
Subject to change (and most likely will):
ENGL 335, MWF 10:00 AM - 10:50 AM
Math 123, MTWR 11:00 AM - 11:50 AM
JAPN 201, TR 7:00 PM - 8:20 PM
LANG 180-002 (Japanese Writing II), TBA
I've got a few other courses lined up right now, but I need to work everything out with my advisor.
What are you majoring in?
Engineering.
Quote from: rabbit on August 28, 2007, 12:55:08 AM
Engineering.
Yet you're taking no engineering classes?
What kind of engineering?
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 28, 2007, 02:01:15 PM
Yet you're taking no engineering classes?
What kind of engineering?
Not knowing what year rabbit is in, I can't really speak for him. However, at my school, you don't really get into the engineering courses until the junior year. Up until then, it's just a lot of prerequisite science and math. Also, we're encouraged to get all of our general studies requirements out of the way during the first two years as well.
I'm General Engineering Major now (Engineering for people that can't pick a major, really) and I'm trying to decide if I want to minor in Japanese. I'm interested in nanoscale swarm intelligence as well as Number Theory, so I'm sort of stuck between (in no particular order):
1) Materials Engineering (Nano stuff)
2) Computer Science (AI stuff, also, stuff like this (http://www.drexel.edu/univrel/dateline/default_nik.pl?p=releaseview&of=1&f=20060508-01))
3) Electrical Engineering (Nano stuff, plus it's only 6 courses short of Computer Science double major)
4) Specialized Engineering (working 1 on 1 with a professor, as it happens, a nano genius is a professor in the CoE, Yuri (http://www.mem.drexel.edu/news/documents/Newsletter-Fall_2002.pdf) Gogotsi (http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1085&context=mse_papers))
5) Number Theory
Also, as drake stated, I'm getting my electives done now and I'm also working on a lot of the intro and prereq courses.
Quote from: dark_drake on August 28, 2007, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 28, 2007, 02:01:15 PM
Yet you're taking no engineering classes?
What kind of engineering?
Not knowing what year rabbit is in, I can't really speak for him. However, at my school, you don't really get into the engineering courses until the junior year. Up until then, it's just a lot of prerequisite science and math. Also, we're encouraged to get all of our general studies requirements out of the way during the first two years as well.
Wow, our engineering college is ridiculously intense, then.
From class 1 the school sets out what you take to accomplish your degree. Also, most electives are engineering related. Your schedule is basically set for the entire 4+ years you'll be there (it usually takes people about 5 years to complete their engineering degree, but they end up with a minor in math usually).
It is by far the most intense college on our campus.
However, it is also the most notable college on our campus as well. It conintually brings in big name companies for recruiting and we also have a lot of government contracts/research being done at the school. And even still, it is the Electrical school (not mechanical or civil) that bears the reputation.
Doesn't your university have a core curriculum which is required by all colleges?
All universities with an accredited engineering degree have certain requirements set by the respective engineering division (IEEE, ASCE, etc) and must keep the requirements up to date and meet the guidelines set to keep accredited status (without it, a degree means squat). And electrical engineering is taking a lot of the contracts now because the reasoning is that with better computers/technology, every other division of engineering will be able to make better things (which isn't entirely true).
I forgot to mention this, but I'm pretty sure Drexel is a pretty damn good school (directed at crazed, not rabbit). They caught my attention when they were awarding scholarships at science fair, anyway. :P
I wonder why our schedules seem so much more indepth, then.
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 28, 2007, 06:17:27 PM
I wonder why our schedules seem so much more indepth, then.
I wouldn't be so sure. Hearing things from engineering friends isn't nearly as accurate as talking to the representative academic adviser. Plus, Drexel is known for being a good engineering school (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drexel_University#tDEC).
My frehsman year was the last to have tDEC, and we aren't having the sophomore year of it. Also, the Engineering college is swallowing up the mathematics department (originally not part of any college).
Also, I'm disgusted that Tom Fulp is a Drexel alumn :'(
But Fulp is balanced out by a couple astronauts, a Prime Minister of some African Country, and the guys that invented the bar code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_code) (also, there's something about a Playmate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Zdrok#Appearances_in_Playboy_special_editions) in there :P)
I know that here for the meteorology program life is planned out for us for the whole 4 years. That said I know a lot of people who have been here >4 years and left with nothing to really show for it. So having it all planned out just means they've got the requirements refined to the point where you aren't left with much choice. All of our semesters are with >= 15 credit hours. And since Sidoh was asking about it for Craz3d, and I knows it the case here the core curriculum classes are built into the plan by the school. Its basically you can take these (1, 2, 3) classes, pick one so there isn't really a whole lot of choice or wiggle room.
That said, as meteorology majors we take a lot of engineering classes and the professors always seem to poke fun at us. Like in my Physics for Engineers class the instructor always rambles on about things that are way beyond us and follows up with a "Don't worry, you engineering students don't really need to know this, but the meteorology majors in the crowd will get to go on and solve much harder problems." It makes life fun.
This is my almost complete schedule...and it sucks.
http://liquid-server.org/schedule092407.htm
You have scheduled exam periods? I do too, but they're not on my schedule because they don't happen every week.
After joining three clubs and taking on a work study, mine is pretty busy too. Monday is the only day I don't have anything officially scheduled until after 5pm. I'll probably need to clock a few hours for the work study, though. :-\
I think I'm going to have to quit my job and get a new one somewhere on campus. Those hours between classes could be used for something good, and I'm not lugging around my textbooks all day.
And yeah, we have scheduled exam periods. There usually aren't any exams, but when there are they are in those slots, which is balls, because it takes over an hour to get to campus :\
My Junior year schedule!
1. AP World History (HARD AS HELL. OMFG.)
2. Points of View Literature
3. Spanish 3
4. AP Computers
5. Business Law (Total blowoff)
6. Algebra 2
7. Physics
The only classes that change next SEMESTER is Business Law to AP American Government and Points of View to Multicultural Literature.
Algebra 2? What's wrong with schools these days? It used to go Algebra, Geometry, Pre-calc/Trig, Calc, Advanced/AP Calc.
Quote from: rabbit on September 25, 2007, 09:41:44 PM
Algebra 2? What's wrong with schools these days? It used to go Algebra, Geometry, Pre-calc/Trig, Calc, Advanced/AP Calc.
Algebra II is a sophomore class for us.
7thgrade = prealgebra
8thgrade = algebra 1
9th grade = geometry
10th grade = algebra 2
11th grade = pre-calculus/trig
12th grade = ap calculus ab
I failed Math twice.
Haha, just kidding.
It all works out in the end, we have pre-calculus 12th grade, like most schools. Our trigonometry class is stuck together with our geometry and algebra 2 class.
8th = pre-algebra
9th = algebra 1
10th = geometry/trig
11th = algebra 2/trig
12th = precalc or ap calc
And btw, I meant next semester for my post above :)
If you plan to go into a field of study that requires any type of higher math (liberal arts are really the only thing that don't, I think), I think you'd be crazy to not take Calculus while in high school, even if it's not AP. My school didn't offer any AP courses, but I still took Calculus. I had to take it again when I got to college, but I've gotten As in both Calc 1 and 2 and I got a 100% on my first Calculus 3 exam. Now, I can't attribute all of that to taking it in high school, but it certainly helped.
I also didn't much like math until I took it. I wasn't one of those people that walked around saying I hated math and I did reasonably well in all of the courses (As and Bs), but once I got to Calculus, it was like a new world opened up for me. It could have been because the teacher was phenomenal, but after that, I just really started to like maths.
So yeah, in short, if you're not already planning to, I definitely recommend that you take Calc in high school.
My highschool offered AB and BC calculus; I took AB. My school has a policy where you don't need to have taken the AP test, and you can just skip directly in to Calculus 3; if you pass the class, you get credit for 1, 2, and 3. I never took the Calculus AP test, since my school didn't give credit for it, so I instead simply skipped in to Calculus 3. On the third day of class, the professor drew a right triangle inside of a circle such that the hypotenuse extended from the circles origin (0,0) to its circumference, and the legs were parallel to the axes. The professor asked for the function to get the Y value of the point on the circle's circumference given its X value. Simple; Pythagorean's theorem. I quickly did the math in my head:
A^2 + B^2 = C^2
X^2 + Y^2 = R^2
Y(X) = (+/-)Sqrt(R^2 - X^2)
I raised my hand, and gave the answer. The entire class turned around and stared at me like I had two heads. To this day, three years later, there are at least two people still telling the story as if it was some ridiculously hard problem that only a genius could have solved.
lol
People are stupid. I find that most of the people in my calc 2 class probably shouldn't have passed calc 1.
Quote from: Camel on September 26, 2007, 02:00:52 PM
My highschool offered AB and BC calculus; I took AB. My school has a policy where you don't need to have taken the AP test, and you can just skip directly in to Calculus 3; if you pass the class, you get credit for 1, 2, and 3. I never took the Calculus AP test, since my school didn't give credit for it, so I instead simply skipped in to Calculus 3. On the third day of class, the professor drew a right triangle inside of a circle such that the hypotenuse extended from the circles origin (0,0) to its circumference, and the legs were parallel to the axes. The professor asked for the function to get the Y value of the point on the circle's circumference given its X value. Simple; Pythagorean's theorem. I quickly did the math in my head:
A^2 + B^2 = C^2
X^2 + Y^2 = R^2
Y(X) = (+/-)Sqrt(R^2 - X^2)
I raised my hand, and gave the answer. The entire class turned around and stared at me like I had two heads. To this day, three years later, there are at least two people still telling the story as if it was some ridiculously hard problem that only a genius could have solved.
The class I had in high school was pretty slow-paced. The teacher never wanted to leave anyone behind, so it left the more mathematically adept people to their own devices (and I was the typical lazy high schooler back then. :(). I probably would have done fine jumping right into Calc 2, but we never got to series, improper integrals, etc, so I would have missed out on all that if I'd gone right into Calc 3. Plus, the coordinator for Calc 2 was way better than the one for 3. We had labs with Maple instead of paper and pencil, lol.
lol at the circle story...
Most of the calculus professors I've talked to say that the biggest problem with their students is that the students don't know their algebra and trigonometry.
I switched my Calc 3 for Calc 4, since I don't actually (as it turns out) need to take Calc 3. Same time slot though.
Quote from: rabbit on September 26, 2007, 08:12:09 PM
I switched my Calc 3 for Calc 4, since I don't actually (as it turns out) need to take Calc 3. Same time slot though.
Wait, you're an engineering major, aren't you? It would seem to me that Calc 3 should absolutely be required. :S
"Calc 4" is just proving the concepts used in 1-3, isn't it?
I absolutely despise math. Yes, I am one of those kids who walk around saying they hate math.
I can't say what I plan on studying though, most likely Criminal Law. I don't think that requires much math...
What topics are covered in your calc 3 and calc 4, rabbit?
From the course descriptions:
QuoteCalc 3
Differential equations, Taylor's theorem, sequence and series, convergence, power series
QuoteCalc 4
Vectors, curves, partial derivatives, gradient, constrained optimization, coordinate system, multiple integrals, and applications
Your calc 3 is covered in my calc 2 and calc 4 is my calc 3. I rule!
Yeah, that's partitioned way differently than it is here. It's about the same as it is at drake's university, I'd guess. We covered all of those things (plus a few other major topics I can think of) in Calculus 2. Are these semester-long courses?
We just covered gradients today in Calc 3.
Quote from: skip on September 26, 2007, 09:30:24 PM
I absolutely despise math. Yes, I am one of those kids who walk around saying they hate math.
I can't say what I plan on studying though, most likely Criminal Law. I don't think that requires much math...
That may be true, but I still recommend you take calculus. :)
Kind of. Drexel does 3 10 week quarters and 1 11 week quarter (fall, because of Thanksgiving and Columbus Day taking off almost a total week). My adviser told me I didn't have to take Math 123 because I'm an engineer, so eh?
Anyway, my ENGR 231 class is actually Linear Systems. Go figure.
So these are "quarterly" classes? How weird. :)
The topics you listed in Calculus 3 are a subset of what's covered in Calculus 2 at this university (and most others I'm familiar with). Those don't seem as necessary for engineering topics, but they're certainly useful.
Your Calculus 4 is a subset Calculus 3 here (semesters are ~4 months). Those are the topics that I were saying were useful/necessary to engineers. :)
There's a "Calculus 4" here, but I'm pretty sure it's just lovingly called that by the people that take it. I have no idea what it's really called, but I've been told that it's going into painful depth in the proofs of concepts used in Calculus.
Quote from: dark_drake on September 26, 2007, 09:34:59 PM
What topics are covered in your calc 3 and calc 4, rabbit?
That sounds absurd! Every teacher and professor I've ever had has required proofs before using them as shortcuts.
Quote from: Camel on September 27, 2007, 12:03:54 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on September 26, 2007, 09:34:59 PM
What topics are covered in your calc 3 and calc 4, rabbit?
That sounds absurd! Every teacher and professor I've ever had has required proofs before using them as shortcuts.
Did you quote the wrong person?
I've been required to prove/provide the formal definitions for limits, derivatives, integrals, etc, but I'm sure there's more to some of the other things that are sort of hand waved in the introductory courses.
Like I said, the course is supposed to be "painful" in detail. It's not really "Calculus 4." It probably isn't even close to deserving such a title. I sat in on the last 10 minutes of one session and it looked like combinatorics stuff to me. There's a girl in my Calc 3 class that apparently took it last semester, so I suppose I could ask the real title of the course and more about what it entails if you're interested.
It's probably Analysis. Analysis = rigorous proofs of obvious things. Combinatorics plays a role in a variety of fields, not to mention it being a field itself (many mathematicians identify themselves as combinatorists).
Quote from: Ender on September 27, 2007, 12:42:43 AM
It's probably Analysis. Analysis = rigorous proofs of obvious things. Combinatorics plays a role in a variety of fields, not to mention it being a field itself (many mathematicians identify themselves as combinatorists).
Yep, it sure does. :)
That could be it; I've still never heard the title of the course. I'll ask around, though.
Quote from: Sidoh on September 27, 2007, 12:12:32 AM
Quote from: Camel on September 27, 2007, 12:03:54 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on September 26, 2007, 09:34:59 PM
What topics are covered in your calc 3 and calc 4, rabbit?
That sounds absurd! Every teacher and professor I've ever had has required proofs before using them as shortcuts.
Did you quote the wrong person?
I've been required to prove/provide the formal definitions for limits, derivatives, integrals, etc, but I'm sure there's more to some of the other things that are sort of hand waved in the introductory courses.
Like I said, the course is supposed to be "painful" in detail. It's not really "Calculus 4." It probably isn't even close to deserving such a title. I sat in on the last 10 minutes of one session and it looked like combinatorics stuff to me. There's a girl in my Calc 3 class that apparently took it last semester, so I suppose I could ask the real title of the course and more about what it entails if you're interested.
I did quote the wrong person, oops.
I seriously did mean that there was no hand-waving. Everything can be boiled down to mathematical axioms; there's no reason for hand-waving. If you can prove every piece of the puzzle, you've got a solid understanding of mathematics. When I got to college, I was actually shocked to learn that every school system did not work that way.
Quote from: Camel on September 27, 2007, 01:18:30 AM
I did quote the wrong person, oops.
I seriously did mean that there was no hand-waving. Everything can be boiled down to mathematical axioms; there's no reason for hand-waving. If you can prove every piece of the puzzle, you've got a solid understanding of mathematics. When I got to college, I was actually shocked to learn that every school system did not work that way.
Again, I'll ask around some more. Maybe I mistranslated what someone was saying when they really meant "using calculus to prove things."
Oh, by the way, I figured out what it was. It's "advanced calculus of one variable." I'm going to have to take it at some point, so if I still remember this, I'll try to explain it a bit better.
Here's what I'm thinking my schedule will look like next semester:
CS 253 -- Problem Solving in C++.
CS 301 -- Fundamentals of Computer Science.
CS 498 -- Independent Research (3 credits of it. required for the scholarship I was awarded earlier this month)
MATH 369 -- Linear Algebra.
PHIL 110 -- Logic and Critical Thinking.
Comments on it each:
CS 253: I'm pretty sure this class will be a breeze. I've not done a ton of C++, but I used it a decent amount last semester. They do all of the intro courses using Java so that they can spend more time teaching the concepts and less time with syntax and leave it up to this course to teach the students how to use C++ for some of the later courses.
CS 301: I've heard this is a pretty fun class. Supposedly there's a weekly assignment to read up on a research paper and report on it or something. Lots of abstract stuff, I guess. I'm not totally sure what it entails.
CS 498: I'm continuing my research with the professor I'm doing it with now. It should be a great experience.
MATH 369: Yay! I'm looking forward to this class. I'm unsure how difficult it's going to be for me, but some of the concepts I've seen from it sound pretty awesome.
PHIL 110: Core curriculum requirement... ugh. The awesome thing about it, though, is the professor has been a student in my CS classes since my freshman year. I guess he's trying to get a degree in computer science (he has a PhD in philosophy). I sit next to him in class and I've talked to him a few times. He's pretty awesome!
I'm doing Linear Systems right now. It's fun, but my professor teaches right out of the text book :'(
Quote from: rabbit on October 29, 2007, 07:51:29 AM
I'm doing Linear Systems right now. It's fun, but my professor teaches right out of the text book :'(
Haha, mine too. She's a grad student, though. Probably the worst teacher I've had here so far, but I'm still doing pretty well in the class.
Linear Systems isn't a hard class though, deal with it :P
Quote from: Chavo on October 29, 2007, 01:45:19 PM
Linear Systems isn't a hard class though, deal with it :P
I have an A in the class, so I guess I am...
It's only frustrating because I have to learn from the book, which is written pretty poorly (it's a tiny book with under 200 pages and the errata sheet is three pages).
Quote from: Chavo on October 29, 2007, 01:45:19 PM
Linear Systems isn't a hard class though, deal with it :P
I CAN'T! It's too boring. I fall asleep and fail quizes cause I was sleeping during all the learning :'(
I'm going to start opening my book and stop going to class soon :\
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My schedule for winter term, as of now. Subject to change. Somebody sticky this.
I need to modify my spring schedule :-\
Quote from: rabbit on December 15, 2007, 01:56:18 PM
http://liquid-server.org/01072008.htm
My schedule for winter term, as of now. Subject to change. Somebody sticky this.
Class numbers don't mean much to anyone who doesn't go to your school. :)
It's mostly just to marvel at how crappy my schedule is.
My courses are:
COM 230 - Techniques of Speaking
MATH 201 - Linear Algebra
CS 171 - Computer Programming I
LANG 180 - Japanese Writing 3
PSY 101 - General Psychology
JAPN 201 - Japanese 4
Intro to World Politics
Intro to Spanish II
Principles/Practice of Good Writing II
Psychology of Natural Science
Western Culture: 900-1800 C.E.
Intro to spanish two? shouldnt it just be spanish two?
Quote from: CrAz3D on December 16, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
Intro to spanish two? shouldnt it just be spanish two?
I think language classes are sometimes split into year long courses instead of semester long. I didn't ask that explicitly when my friend here was telling me about his schedule next semester, but from what he said, I think that's how it is at my university. He said something like "... the second semester of Japanese I ...".
Quote from: CrAz3D on December 16, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
Intro to spanish two? shouldnt it just be spanish two?
It's the second semester of introductory Spanish: Spanish 102.
I'm fitting all of my classes next semester in MWF. The three days at school are going to be rough, but the time off is going to be nice and given my current transportation situation it makes things much much easier.
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CS 200 - Programming II
CS 214 - Computer Architecture and Assembly (I'm gonna learn something this semester, yay!)
EN 101 - Engrish
MA 202 - Calc 3
I wanna learn Engrish.
When are you going to eat lunch? that's going to suck.
Quote from: Trust on December 18, 2007, 11:36:53 AM
When are you going to eat lunch? that's going to suck.
Tuesdays and Thursdays, duh.
Next semester? I only took monday, wednesday, and friday this semester.
CIT 103 - Management Information Systems - 8AM-8:50AM
MAT 101 - Elementary Algebra - 9AM-9:50AM
HIS 130 - The Greek & Roman World - 11AM-11:50AM
ENG 101 - Freshman English 1 - 12PM-12:50PM
Next semester i got:
Discrete Mathematics
Computer Orginization
Probability in ECE
Electronics
Macro Econ
18 credits total
MWF: 1130-130 I'll have Judicial Process and Current Political issues (govt 150, lol)
TR: 8-10 I'll have introduction to riding; 630-8pm I'll have Politics & Films:Mid East
S: 12-2pm Law & Ethics
M-F if I'm not in class during some hour bettwen 830am and 5pm I'll be working :-\. At least my work will count for at least 3, hopefully 5 credits ... I need to bug prof about that and see if I can drop my Sat class, then
Looks like this will be my schedule:
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I may switch out the math of information security (crypto) with M 466 - Abstract Algebra, but it will depend on who's teaching M 360.
I'm really looking forward to the algorithms class. I've been doing research/independent study with the professor all year and it's been awesome.
Well, I'll finally be out of engineering generals and whatnot next semester leaving me with:
MWF:
8-8:50 Chemical Process Analysis
9-9:50 Transport Phenomena
10-10:50 Physical Chemistry I
TR
8:10-9:25 Multicomponent Thermodynamics
11:00-12:15 Biochemical Engineering
2:45-4:00 Cosmology of Life <--- Honors Program Course
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I'm thinking of taking a music class instead of arts for the art credit.
Quote from: Falcon on April 16, 2008, 12:54:40 PM
I'm thinking of taking a music class instead of arts for the art credit.
I'd reccommend either that or a film photography class if your school offers it.