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General Forums => Introductions! => Topic started by: MikeonTV on October 13, 2007, 04:27:44 pm

Title: Hello hello
Post by: MikeonTV on October 13, 2007, 04:27:44 pm
Welcome me, 23 yr, CompSci grad who opened up his own coffee/ice cream shop in May. The lull of the colder months is approaching so I have more free time to join new communities (j/p)!

http://www.theriverelora.com/ (http://www.theriverelora.com/)

Not sure what this place is really about. At first I thought it was a big gaming community (which I am not part of), but now I see that it is an all around general forum for intelligent people. Not sure what the voting process and 'joining' really means though. (sigh) Oh well.

Hello.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 13, 2007, 04:56:39 pm
Not sure what this place is really about.
Neither am I, really, and I helped found this. It's mostly just a random group of ex-Battle.net'ers hanging out.

Not sure what the voting process and 'joining' really means though. (sigh) Oh well.
Basically, if you want to become a "member", you need to get leader approval and be voted in. But being a member isn't really important or even necessary, the main reason to become one is to have a say in the leadership and to influence decisions and changes.

In any case, welcome!
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: BigAznDaddy on October 13, 2007, 04:59:35 pm
Welcome me, 23 yr, CompSci grad who opened up his own coffee/ice cream shop in May. The lull of the colder months is approaching so I have more free time to join new communities (j/p)!

http://www.theriverelora.com/ (http://www.theriverelora.com/)

Not sure what this place is really about. At first I thought it was a big gaming community (which I am not part of), but now I see that it is an all around general forum for intelligent people. Not sure what the voting process and 'joining' really means though. (sigh) Oh well.

Hello.
Not me.. but welcome
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Blaze on October 13, 2007, 06:48:57 pm
23 yr, CompSci grad who opened up his own coffee/ice cream shop

GLaD you're putting your degree to good use! ;)

In any case, welcome!
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: rabbit on October 13, 2007, 10:41:34 pm
Membership also grants you access to iago and his computer.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Newby on October 13, 2007, 10:57:15 pm
One glance over the post and I assumed it was a spam bot. Haha.

Then I realized we're so cool, spam bots avoid posting here. Or are pwned instantly.

Welcome. :0
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 13, 2007, 11:38:59 pm
One glance over the post and I assumed it was a spam bot. Haha.

Then I realized we're so cool, spam bots avoid posting here. Or are pwned instantly.

Welcome. :0
I'm still suspicious, actually. It's a generic enough post to be made by a spambot trying to advertise his site, especially for googlebot. I'll give him a few days to respond before removing the link.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Joe on October 14, 2007, 03:45:27 am
Most spam bots wouldn't talk about a joining process. Could be a really good one, though.

But anyhow, hello!
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: MikeonTV on October 14, 2007, 08:32:45 am
Most spam bots wouldn't talk about a joining process. Could be a really good one, though.

But anyhow, hello!


You got me. I am spambot. Was it that obvious guys? I just wanted to plug my 500 sq ft cafe. Damn I'll have to work harder.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 14, 2007, 10:34:40 am
No, you're obviously not a spambot, they wouldn't post 1-line responses to every topic on the board. Can you try limiting your responses to threads where you have something more interesting to say?
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: MikeonTV on October 14, 2007, 11:19:53 am
I hardly have been posting one  line responses in all my posts. Besides, do you expect me to go into detail about a picture of some fools armpit in a post titled 'Paris Hilton'?
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 14, 2007, 12:51:55 pm
Out of 11 posts, 8 of them are one line, or a couple short sentences, that doesn't really say anything.

Generally, if you don't have anything to say, then say nothing, not something short.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Camel on October 14, 2007, 05:08:27 pm
How is he supposed to grow his x86 forum e-penis, then?

Membership also grants you access to iago and his computer.
What kind of access? o.O
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: trust on October 14, 2007, 05:59:51 pm
how did you find this if you don't play games (and thus probably weren't on battle.net)
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Hitmen on October 14, 2007, 07:25:22 pm
how did you find this if you don't play games (and thus probably weren't on battle.net)
Obviously he was googling x86 and decided to check out the 251st (http://www.google.com/search?q=x86&hl=en&safe=off&start=250&sa=N) result.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 14, 2007, 07:26:50 pm
how did you find this if you don't play games (and thus probably weren't on battle.net)
Obviously he was googling x86 and decided to check out the 251st (http://www.google.com/search?q=x86&hl=en&safe=off&start=250&sa=N) result.
You're really bored, aren't you?
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Blaze on October 14, 2007, 08:52:37 pm
how did you find this if you don't play games (and thus probably weren't on battle.net)
Obviously he was googling x86 and decided to check out the 251st (http://www.google.com/search?q=x86&hl=en&safe=off&start=250&sa=N) result.
You're really bored, aren't you?

Haha, I was thinking about the same thing when I read that.  Perhaps you should work on this sites page rank?  Perhaps our Spam Bot friend can help us!
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 14, 2007, 09:08:59 pm
So, feel like figuring out how zombiemeter.org ranks for "zombie" or "zombies"? :)
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Ender on October 14, 2007, 09:10:15 pm
MikeonTV,

You remind me of a 99-year-old senile lady who's going blind.

-Ender
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Towelie on October 15, 2007, 12:07:26 am
Welcome me, 23 yr, CompSci grad who opened up his own coffee/ice cream shop in May. The lull of the colder months is approaching so I have more free time to join new communities (j/p)!

http://www.theriverelora.com/ (http://www.theriverelora.com/)

Not sure what this place is really about. At first I thought it was a big gaming community (which I am not part of), but now I see that it is an all around general forum for intelligent people. Not sure what the voting process and 'joining' really means though. (sigh) Oh well.

Hello.
Not me.. but welcome
qft
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: AntiVirus on October 15, 2007, 01:17:04 pm
Welcome and don't get scared off too easily from the people who post here.  You'll eventually get used to them..
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: GameSnake on October 15, 2007, 02:29:44 pm
Welcome to the forum dude! This place is awesome youll like it, except all the drama that goes on its like a totally kewl place to hang WORD.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: MikeonTV on October 15, 2007, 03:53:01 pm
how did you find this if you don't play games (and thus probably weren't on battle.net)
Obviously he was googling x86 and decided to check out the 251st (http://www.google.com/search?q=x86&hl=en&safe=off&start=250&sa=N) result.
You're really bored, aren't you?

I actually stumbled here when searching for an IRC channel for Adobe Air support. There was one listed on irc.tehnet.org and so I checked it out. No Adobe channel so I did a search on 'tehnet.org' and found a wikipedia user called Jklinect. He also listed x86labs.org and is quoted as saying it 'rules'. Viola.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Sidoh on October 15, 2007, 04:26:37 pm
Hah, tehnet!  I go to school (well, the same university.  he's a different major) to the guy who hosts tehnet. :)
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Joe on October 15, 2007, 06:07:15 pm
That's right. Sidoh goes to school with felons. Don't mess with him.

For the record, James Klinect is Newby. :)
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Warrior on October 15, 2007, 06:13:25 pm
Welcome, don't mind the paranoid-ish security junkies.

I say if you're skilled enough to walk into my house and steal from my frige, I may as well pour you a drink!

Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Sidoh on October 15, 2007, 07:21:36 pm
That's right. Sidoh goes to school with felons. Don't mess with him.

As far as I know, that was total bullshit.  He found a vulnerability and got in trouble for showing an administrator a proof of concept.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Ender on October 15, 2007, 09:09:19 pm
Hah, tehnet!  I go to school (well, the same university.  he's a different major) to the guy who hosts tehnet. :)

Does TehUser host tehnet.org?
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Sidoh on October 15, 2007, 09:11:49 pm
Does TehUser host tehnet.org?

There's more than one node, I think, but he hosts one of them as well as the hub, I think.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Newby on October 15, 2007, 09:40:19 pm
One of the leaves is hosted by torque (and managed by TehUser), and yeah, TU hosts the hub.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Joe on October 19, 2007, 04:28:28 am
That's right. Sidoh goes to school with felons. Don't mess with him.

As far as I know, that was total bullshit.  He found a vulnerability and got in trouble for showing an administrator a proof of concept.

I don't think showing administrators proof of concepts on public machines in your library is a good idea, but it shouldn't be a felony though.

Regardless, that's not what I'm talking about. :P
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Newby on October 19, 2007, 06:34:43 am
I don't think showing administrators proof of concepts on public machines in your library is a good idea, but it shouldn't be a felony though.

Read my mind. Explaining the vulnerability is good, but PoC was overkill. :|
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 19, 2007, 10:45:56 am
I don't think showing administrators proof of concepts on public machines in your library is a good idea, but it shouldn't be a felony though.
Yes, it should be. It shouldn't be any different from breaking into somebody's house, sitting on their couch, and watching their TV until they came home.

In any case, the situation was more complicated than that. 
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Sidoh on October 19, 2007, 12:29:22 pm
I don't think showing administrators proof of concepts on public machines in your library is a good idea, but it shouldn't be a felony though.
Yes, it should be. It shouldn't be any different from breaking into somebody's house, sitting on their couch, and watching their TV until they came home.

In any case, the situation was more complicated than that. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a proof of concept just showing that an vulnerability exists, without actually using it for anything malicious?

I'd say it's more like opening the door, leaving it alone and then demonstrating it for the person who owns the house so that they can fix the door, but maybe my definition is all screwy?

I've heard things about the situation, but I figured they were just rumors... I'm guessing I don't know much about it because I didn't really know anyone in the vL group very well around the time it happened.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: iago on October 19, 2007, 01:00:38 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a proof of concept just showing that an vulnerability exists, without actually using it for anything malicious?

I'd say it's more like opening the door, leaving it alone and then demonstrating it for the person who owns the house so that they can fix the door, but maybe my definition is all screwy?

I've heard things about the situation, but I figured they were just rumors... I'm guessing I don't know much about it because I didn't really know anyone in the vL group very well around the time it happened.
Yes, that's correct. However, the person in question (to summarize) found the vulnerability, used it to install software for his own purposes, and eventually alerted the staff. So I think the situation I posed makes sense. :)
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Joe on October 19, 2007, 01:20:31 pm
So basically he walked in to the house, made some popcorn and watched TV for an hour, then left leaving the door open? Gotcha.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Sidoh on October 19, 2007, 01:48:39 pm
Yes, that's correct. However, the person in question (to summarize) found the vulnerability, used it to install software for his own purposes, and eventually alerted the staff. So I think the situation I posed makes sense. :)

I see.  I totally agree, then.  I wasn't aware of anything else he did.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Camel on November 01, 2007, 02:30:59 pm
So basically he walked in to the house, made some popcorn and watched TV for an hour, then left leaving the door open? Gotcha.

Leaving the door open would be inviting others who are unfamiliar with the door's lack of locks to come in.

I think in this case, he just left the lights and the heat on.

Mmm, popcorn.
Title: Re: Hello hello
Post by: Krazed on March 04, 2008, 10:19:22 am
Hey cool, we've gone up in the world. We're #236 on google now.