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Title: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Armin on December 09, 2007, 08:01:41 pm
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Recently, it has been rumoured that another film adaptation [of George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four] is set to be released in 2009, however according to the IMDb it is still in development. According to Dark Horizons and Moviehole, Tim Robbins is set to direct the film version of a stage adaptation written by San Francisco Mime Troupe head writer Michael Gene Sullivan, which was performed, directed by Robbins, at the Actor's Gang in Los Angeles.
Although I'm certain the film won't be nearly as powerful as the book, I'm optimistic to see what the future has in store for us with this film adaptation.

Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_%282009_film%29#Film_adaptations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_%282009_film%29#Film_adaptations)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498637/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498637/)
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: trust on December 09, 2007, 09:19:22 pm
Michael Moore is probably set to direct.


Edit: I read the link and it's not Michael Moore, but Tim Robbins. (Who is, not surprisingly, a libdawg.)
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Armin on December 10, 2007, 12:07:39 am
Michael Moore is probably set to direct.


Edit: I read the link and it's not Michael Moore, but Tim Robbins. (Who is, not surprisingly, a libdawg.)
Don't try to beat around the bush with these statements. If you have something to say, say it.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: iago on December 10, 2007, 12:20:44 am
Michael Moore is probably set to direct.


Edit: I read the link and it's not Michael Moore, but Tim Robbins. (Who is, not surprisingly, a libdawg.)
I'm rather confused about what you're saying. The book is one that casts a negative light on totalitarianism, is that something that a republican wouldn't do? Or is it that a republican wouldn't create a political film? Or do republicans support totalitarianism? I'm really not sure what your response is supposed to imply..
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2007, 12:56:47 am
I'm rather confused about what you're saying. The book is one that casts a negative light on totalitarianism, is that something that a republican wouldn't do? Or is it that a republican wouldn't create a political film? Or do republicans support totalitarianism? I'm really not sure what your response is supposed to imply..

I think what he's implying is a liberal director would misuse the opportunity to allude the ideas of typical republicans to the ideas held by the government in 1984.  I totally disagree with that, though.  I think the message contained in 1984 is very clear and it'd be hard to do that without totally skewing the plot.  It'd be sad if that does end up being the case.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Armin on December 10, 2007, 01:26:26 am
I could come up with a dozen other reasons he made those statements, which is why the best path is to ask clearly what he's stating before attempting to prove him wrong.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: trust on December 10, 2007, 01:32:46 am
This movie is going to make every attempt it can to attack the Bush administration.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2007, 01:41:30 am
This movie is going to make every attempt it can to attack the Bush administration.

I was right! :)

I still don't think so, though. :P
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Towelie on December 10, 2007, 02:19:32 am
I enjoyed the book, and the 1984 movie. I wonder if this one will be any good. Either way, it better have a juicy sex scene.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Armin on December 10, 2007, 02:29:02 am
I enjoyed the book, and the 1984 movie. I wonder if this one will be any good. Either way, it better have a juicy sex scene.
If it doesn't, it won't be true to the book or to the ideas of Orwell, and therefore it won't have the same flawless concepts, and I will be thoroughly disappointed.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: trust on December 10, 2007, 12:12:59 pm
I thought you were going to prove me wrong?
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Sidoh on December 10, 2007, 12:21:39 pm
I thought you were going to prove me wrong?

You can't prove a guess wrong without observing or knowing about some event pertaining to the guess.  The movie hasn't been made... there's no way of him proving you wrong.  Conversely, there's no way that you can conclude what you say is correct.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: iago on December 10, 2007, 12:42:42 pm
It would be as silly for a liberal to use the book to attack conservatives as for the conservatives to use it to attack liberals. Because in the end, Orwell was neither. The one link I can see is that he's more or less against widespread surveillance, which is something that the current government is moving more and more towards.

However, Orwell's principles, and the book itself, are against all government in its current form. He was an advocate of Democratic Socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism), which is a form of self-governance. I'm hoping that comes through in the movie.
Title: Re: 1984: Possible 2009 Film
Post by: Rule on December 10, 2007, 01:54:23 pm
You are correct that Orwell was neither "liberal" nor conservative.  He was a free thinker -- unlike most people, he did not react without thinking and then think about how he could justify his reaction.

In his youth, he tended towards democratic socialism, although as he grew older he became more of an equal opportunity critic -- seeing problems in the way one thinks when one binds himself to any particular ideology, be it socialism or conservatism.