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Member Forums => iago's forum => Topic started by: iago on December 26, 2005, 01:14:37 pm
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Only download if you really want to see me trying to burn myself: www.javaop.com/~iago/coldheat.mpg
Yet another Christmas gift for me. I feel so powerful now that I can........ solder!!
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Only download if you really want to see me trying to burn myself: www.javaop.com/~iago/coldheat.mpg
Yet another Christmas gift for me. I feel so powerful now that I can........ solder!!
or if we want to waste your bandwith. ;)
Isn't it a mechanical device that cools it down?
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Only download if you really want to see me trying to burn myself: www.javaop.com/~iago/coldheat.mpg
Yet another Christmas gift for me. I feel so powerful now that I can........ solder!!
or if we want to waste your bandwith. ;)
Isn't it a mechanical device that cools it down?
Are you telling me you don't know what a soldering iron is?
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Isn't it a mechanical device that cools it down?
Don't be fooled by the name, ColdHeat is a brand. :P
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Isn't it a mechanical device that cools it down?
No, it just has a really really low (or high?) specific heat. It has 2 forks, and when they're bridged it heats up super fast. As soon as you remove the heat, it cools off super fast. It's just a property of the compound they use to make the tip.
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Isn't it a mechanical device that cools it down?
No, it just has a really really low (or high?) specific heat. It has 2 forks, and when they're bridged it heats up super fast. As soon as you remove the heat, it cools off super fast. It's just a property of the compound they use to make the tip.
Oh, awesome. :)
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No, it just has a really really low (or high?) specific heat. It has 2 forks, and when they're bridged it heats up super fast. As soon as you remove the heat, it cools off super fast. It's just a property of the compound they use to make the tip.
Low specific heat. High means it retains its thermal energy and it takes a lot of energy to change it.
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No, it just has a really really low (or high?) specific heat. It has 2 forks, and when they're bridged it heats up super fast. As soon as you remove the heat, it cools off super fast. It's just a property of the compound they use to make the tip.
Low specific heat. High means it retains its thermal energy and it takes a lot of energy to change it.
Somehow, I knew you'd be the one who told me. It's been a long time since highschool chemistry, but I was pretty sure it was low. It goes from extremely hot to room temperature in about 2 seconds.
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Those things don't get hot enough for most of my applications :/
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It depends what you're soldering. If you're doing pipes or something, then yeah, you need a torch. But if you're doing electronics (which is what I needed it for), it works beautifully.
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Well, most of my applications are either small chip-to-board jobs (when finalizing something that has been on a breadboard for a while) or non-computer oriented electronics for which we use this amazing solder with a hollow core. At the right temperature it is so incredibly easy compared to the micro-soldering jobs required for chips/small capacitors/etc. I'm not sure how the batterly life is on those, but I doubt you could do a full project without recharging/swapping the batteries.
Sounds like its great for a hobbiest though.
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Somehow, I knew you'd be the one who told me. It's been a long time since highschool chemistry, but I was pretty sure it was low. It goes from extremely hot to room temperature in about 2 seconds.
Haha. I remember it from Physics. Chemistry's a blur from last year; I didn't much care for my teacher.
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Somehow, I knew you'd be the one who told me. It's been a long time since highschool chemistry, but I was pretty sure it was low. It goes from extremely hot to room temperature in about 2 seconds.
Haha. I remember it from Physics. Chemistry's a blur from last year; I didn't much care for my teacher.
Grammar nazi, switch care and much around.
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No, "much care" works. You need to read more, Joe.
Ugh, I was in an electronics class 1st term this school year. The class blew big hairy balls. The kits that we were supposed to make were really easy to do, and required no knowledge about anything.. just following a friggin diagram and directions (plug 18k OHM Resistor into A7 and B5) and that's all it was. Then when we finally get to solder some stuff, the dipshit druggies in the class just solder over and over and get big globs of it and then throw it around after it hardened, so guess what: we use up a whole fucking ROLL of solder in one day. So for one of my kits when I was goofing around (finished in 3 days, heh had 2 left) I was putting a speaker together for fun and the one of the wires was frayed and the other was like, short as fuck.. so I had to solder the frayed wire together and guess what, we didn't have any solder! I hate public school.
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Well, most of my applications are either small chip-to-board jobs (when finalizing something that has been on a breadboard for a while) or non-computer oriented electronics for which we use this amazing solder with a hollow core. At the right temperature it is so incredibly easy compared to the micro-soldering jobs required for chips/small capacitors/etc. I'm not sure how the batterly life is on those, but I doubt you could do a full project without recharging/swapping the batteries.
Sounds like its great for a hobbiest though.
Yeah, I've never done chip-to-board soldering, and I doubt I ever will. I don't plan on being more than a hobbiest, and yep, it's a great tool.
I have no clue how long the batteries last, but it takes 4 AA batteries, which is quite a bit, so it probably has at least a decent life.
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ColdHeat sucks the big one IMO. My dad is an electrician for the USN, and teaches MME ( Micro Miniature Electronics ) and he hates the CH iron. He uses a regular iron for his chip-to-board soldering. To each his own, whatever works for you :P
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I agree, regular irons are pretty good. I've never used a CH Iron before.. but I think I'd rathers tick with a regular one.
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ColdHeat is far less trouble, though. When I used a regular one, there was too much fussing with cords and stuff, and you had to put it on a stand because it would burn the table. It's so much more convenient! And it's worked perfectly for me so far, so eh? :)
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http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p001731.htm = my soldering iron - except it runs on 220v and welds any metal you want.
ok, its a welder, and doesnt cool down very quickly, but hey - i can build a goddamn tower with it.
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http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p001731.htm = my soldering iron - except it runs on 220v and welds any metal you want.
ok, its a welder, and doesnt cool down very quickly, but hey - i can build a goddamn tower with it.
I think I'd rather use iago's Iron than that thing for soldering... :P
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http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p001731.htm = my soldering iron - except it runs on 220v and welds any metal you want.
ok, its a welder, and doesnt cool down very quickly, but hey - i can build a goddamn tower with it.
I like Linclons a lot more than I like Millers. On a side(ish) note: copper's not that fun to weld... it melts at to low of heat. Also titanum welds at about 320-390 volts (ac) so, you can't weld that with that. :p <3
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http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p001731.htm = my soldering iron - except it runs on 220v and welds any metal you want.
ok, its a welder, and doesnt cool down very quickly, but hey - i can build a goddamn tower with it.
I think I'd rather use iago's Iron than that thing for soldering... :P
agreed - however, i would not drive my car if it were made by iago's CH
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http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p001731.htm = my soldering iron - except it runs on 220v and welds any metal you want.
ok, its a welder, and doesnt cool down very quickly, but hey - i can build a goddamn tower with it.
I like Linclons a lot more than I like Millers. On a side(ish) note: copper's not that fun to weld... it melts at to low of heat. Also titanum welds at about 320-390 volts (ac) so, you can't weld that with that. :p <3
i like my miller - dont like my lincoln, but my lincoln is about 1/8 the size of the miller.
i usually sweat copper - but then again i would only use copper for piping
and yeah - im not too sure about titanium - might have to bust out the ascetalyn torch (i think its 14000+ deg.)
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agreed - however, i would not drive my car if it were made by iago's CH
That's true, but we're talking about soldering in this thread! :)
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you nerd ;)
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By the way, soldering is quite different from welding! :P
Just stating the obvious..
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yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)
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Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.
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Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.
Huh?
You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard. It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly.
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yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)
You're really starting to bug me. Do you think that jewelry is welded? Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market. I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.
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Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.
Huh?
You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard. It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly.
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Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.
Huh?
You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard. It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly.
Not not really sure what deadly7 was talking about. He seemed to be implying that it was impossible to get burned by the soldering iron, or something..
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I've been burned by soldering irons plenty, you can be burned by them, but with the coldheat it's nearly impossible, I'm sure there is some dumbass out there that could burn him/herself.
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yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)
You're really starting to bug me. Do you think that jewelry is welded? Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market. I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.
Actually, Rabbit, they do weld jewelry together. I've had experiance with it. We used Oxy Acetylene torches, and about 3psi of O2 and 3psi of acetylene and a really low heat nuteral flame, then you can weld the silver moderatly easly. You have to move faster with gold, though.
Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.
Huh?
You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard. It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly.
Not not really sure what deadly7 was talking about. He seemed to be implying that it was impossible to get burned by the soldering iron, or something..
leet_muffin said that you get burned with welding, not soldering.
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Actually, Rabbit, they do weld jewelry together. I've had experiance with it. We used Oxy Acetylene torches, and about 3psi of O2 and 3psi of acetylene and a really low heat nuteral flame, then you can weld the silver moderatly easly. You have to move faster with gold, though.
I'm pretty sure they solder jewelry more than they weld it, though. ;)
leet_muffin said that you get burned with welding, not soldering.
You do get burned soldering; we were saying it's hard to get burned with one of the ColdHeat irons that iago was using in the video.
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I make plenty of jewelry. I use an acetelyn torch, but I have yet to weld anything. I always use solder or, sometimes, and only with silver (to silver), direct fusing. I demand you try to make some jewelry by welding.
Also, most professionally made jewelry is solid cast, and isn't bonded at all.
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Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.
Huh?
You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard. It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly.
Not not really sure what deadly7 was talking about. He seemed to be implying that it was impossible to get burned by the soldering iron, or something..
Lies.
leet_Muffin said that it wasn't possible to get burned by Soldering Irons because they work only on "wimpy little stuff," and I was telling him to get a good soldering iron (shitty ones can't burn you, they can sting a little but not burn you) and then say that.
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leet_Muffin said that it wasn't possible to get burned by Soldering Irons because they work only on "wimpy little stuff," and I was telling him to get a good soldering iron (shitty ones can't burn you, they can sting a little but not burn you) and then say that.
They burn the crap out of you. It doesn't hurt because it destroys the underlying nerves so you can't feel it. Secondly, ColdHeat irons are perfectly fine for a hobbyist. I've used both and unless you're doing heavy work, you don't need a normal iron...
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yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)
You're really starting to bug me. Do you think that jewelry is welded? Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market. I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.
hmm. Maybe I'm bugging you because your picking apart everything that I say. 'wimpy stuffs' was said in reference to the minute size and power needed in working on such things in comparison to the other. As you mentioned, jewelry is solid casted, so what was the point of mentioning it as a part of soldering? I currently use ascetelyn and mapp gas torches in combination with welding for ornamental works, that could be construed as jewelry. Technically - soldering is a form of welding, but probobly the most minute in its class.
Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.
Dont get me wrong, soldering has its place. In a few weeks or months i will be doing the electrical on the car. Dont think that I will be using a welder for that one.
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hmm. Maybe I'm bugging you because your picking apart everything that I say. 'wimpy stuffs' was said in reference to the minute size and power needed in working on such things in comparison to the other. As you mentioned, jewelry is solid casted, so what was the point of mentioning it as a part of soldering? I currently use ascetelyn and mapp gas torches in combination with welding for ornamental works, that could be construed as jewelry. Technically - soldering is a form of welding, but probobly the most minute in its class.
Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.
Dont get me wrong, soldering has its place. In a few weeks or months i will be doing the electrical on the car. Dont think that I will be using a welder for that one.
Welders aren't versatile. Of course soldering has its place... there wouldn't be soldering irons if welders could do the same thing they could.
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hmm. Maybe I'm bugging you because your picking apart everything that I say. 'wimpy stuffs' was said in reference to the minute size and power needed in working on such things in comparison to the other. As you mentioned, jewelry is solid casted, so what was the point of mentioning it as a part of soldering? I currently use ascetelyn and mapp gas torches in combination with welding for ornamental works, that could be construed as jewelry. Technically - soldering is a form of welding, but probobly the most minute in its class.
Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.
Dont get me wrong, soldering has its place. In a few weeks or months i will be doing the electrical on the car. Dont think that I will be using a welder for that one.
Welders aren't versatile. Of course soldering has its place... there wouldn't be soldering irons if welders could do the same thing they could.
welders are VERY versatile. especially my current setup. I have my initial 30 lb wire of steel. So, I can weld steel with that line. Now, I also have my spool gun, which holds 1lb wires so I can weld any other type of metal which is sold in 1 lb wire, which includes stainless steel, alluminum, copper and so on. so we have most basic meltable metals in ability to weld. In TIG and stick welders, it is even more simple and versatile. But the main problem is, the sparks and such. Its messy. When people refer to welders, they are generally speaking of arc welders(MIG TIG Stick (GMAW TMAW)) but soldering irons are also a form of welders, but since they do not may an electric connection,get hot instead, all the sparks and such are iliminated, hence most people dont think of them as welders. They have their place in all small materials, maybe I should invent a welder with enough power variation for it to weld 'wimpy stuffs' such as wiring and jewelry more easily.
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welders are VERY versatile. especially my current setup. I have my initial 30 lb wire of steel. So, I can weld steel with that line. Now, I also have my spool gun, which holds 1lb wires so I can weld any other type of metal which is sold in 1 lb wire, which includes stainless steel, alluminum, copper and so on. so we have most basic meltable metals in ability to weld. In TIG and stick welders, it is even more simple and versatile. But the main problem is, the sparks and such. Its messy. When people refer to welders, they are generally speaking of arc welders(MIG TIG Stick (GMAW TMAW)) but soldering irons are also a form of welders, but since they do not may an electric connection,get hot instead, all the sparks and such are iliminated, hence most people dont think of them as welders. They have their place in all small materials, maybe I should invent a welder with enough power variation for it to weld 'wimpy stuffs' such as wiring and jewelry more easily.
Not versatile enough, obviously. I still don't think welding jewelry is a good idea at all... :p
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yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)
You're really starting to bug me. Do you think that jewelry is welded? Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market. I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.
Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.
Sounded like you were saying that to me. *shrug*
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yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)
You're really starting to bug me. Do you think that jewelry is welded? Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market. I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.
Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.
Sounded like you were saying that to me. *shrug*
If the bolded is of what you speak, I was referring to when you get a big spark in your shoe, and you have to simply let it burn through your sock and into your skin. Or those times, when you are new to it, and you think the metal has cooled, so you try to touch it, only to find out its still hot. I know soldering irons can burn you. I've worked far to much on guitar internals, RC cars, and electricals to say otherwise.
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Hrm, if you need help with your car wiring, feel free to ask, I've re-wired 60% of my Mustang, the stereo and speakers in my brother's Camaro, and misc. parts on my dads Integra and Silverado.
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Hrm, if you need help with your car wiring, feel free to ask, I've re-wired 60% of my Mustang, the stereo and speakers in my brother's Camaro, and misc. parts on my dads Integra and Silverado.
heheh, mine might be a bit more.... simple.
you see, we dont have uh... stereo. hell, i don't even have a door. Thats cool that you'r working on a Mustang. What year? Any pics? What modifications have you made?
I'm more of a Chevy fan (performance>looks) but I love hearing about people actually working on their own cars, no matter the make/model.
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http://www.futilenetworks.com/david/Car%20Pictures/
That's my car pictures directory, it may not seem like much, but those cars haul some killer ass. There's also 2 exterior pictures of my 15yr old brother's 89' Camaro. Not much has been done to my car, it's got 3.73 gears ( typical in the 5.0's ) , and a cold-air intake. I plan on getting it bored to a 347 and getting a stroker kit, I should be pushing a good ~300+ hp@wheels after that. I am slowly getting it the way I want it. :P And if you're more for performance, in 1990 that is about the most performance you would find in a car.
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ah - well, you drag it at all? interested in racing?
my friend has a unmodified 67 hardtop mustang, and he wants to race vs. my car. its gonna be a BLOWOUT. My car will weigh about ~1800 lbs with 355 hp. IF thats not enough, we'll get it blown. its gonna be crazy.