Who is your hero?

[ZeroX]

After having to read the book "Dresden", it was pretty clear in my mind that Germany could have easily dominated the modern world as it is today.

If it wasn't for the U.S. stepping in, Germany would have taken over all of Europe and probably Russia.

They were forced in if I rember. If it wasent for the Japenses are their retarded act to bomb peral harbor I think Hitler could have easily taken over half the world.

My teacher was reading us something on the internet that came from Hitlers own mouth while he was talking to one of his SS men. He stated that He envyed Canada and The US for the econmy and their way of life. Iam sure if the stupid Japs didnt attack us, hell Hitler and bush could probally be having lunch right now for all we know.

[MyndFyre]

They were forced in if I rember. If it wasent for the Japenses are their retarded act to bomb peral harbor I think Hitler could have easily taken over half the world.

I think that Germany would have been severely slowed down if other things had been equal and we had not gone in.  IIRC the Battle of Britain was won without us, and the fact that the Nazis failed so miserably in the invasion of the Soviet Union really crippled them.  That and D-Day were the two largest Axis defeats IMHO -- not the nuke in Japan or any of the other big military victories.

[CrAz3D]

After having to read the book "Dresden", it was pretty clear in my mind that Germany could have easily dominated the modern world as it is today.

If it wasn't for the U.S. stepping in, Germany would have taken over all of Europe and probably Russia.

They were forced in if I rember. If it wasent for the Japenses are their retarded act to bomb peral harbor I think Hitler could have easily taken over half the world.

My teacher was reading us something on the internet that came from Hitlers own mouth while he was talking to one of his SS men. He stated that He envyed Canada and The US for the econmy and their way of life. Iam sure if the stupid Japs didnt attack us, hell Hitler and bush could probally be having lunch right now for all we know.

I seriously doubt that, I'm quite sure we were somewhat involved in the war pre-pearl harbor.
We didnt want england to go bye bye

[MyndFyre]

I seriously doubt that, I'm quite sure we were somewhat involved in the war pre-pearl harbor.
We didnt want england to go bye bye

We were involved, but only industrially and economically.  We were not fighting at all in the war pre-Pearl Harbor, and we did not even become very economically involved until the Lend-Lease Act on March 11, 1941 (source).  I was also correct about the Battle of Britain (note that the Lend-Lease Act was signed near the end of the BoB). 

[CrAz3D]

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I seriously doubt that, I'm quite sure we were somewhat involved in the war pre-pearl harbor.
We didnt want england to go bye bye

We were involved, but only industrially and economically.  We were not fighting at all in the war pre-Pearl Harbor, and we did not even become very economically involved until the Lend-Lease Act on March 11, 1941 (source).  I was also correct about the Battle of Britain (note that the Lend-Lease Act was signed near the end of the BoB). 

Yeah, thats what I should've said

Interesting thing I saw the other day, Britain finished paying the Lend-Lease debt off like a week ago (as what I saw on Fark)....I think

[Warrior]

They could've won DDay if Hitler hadn't been stupid, I mean they had everything..the terrain, firepower, etc.
We just had numbers, unexperienced soldiers, luck, and courage.

Hitler iirc took REALLY long to even make a retalliation order.

I also think that invading russia was one of the dumbest things he could of done, iirc wasn't Soviet Union part of russia initially?

[MyndFyre]

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They could've won DDay if Hitler hadn't been stupid, I mean they had everything..the terrain, firepower, etc.
We just had numbers, unexperienced soldiers, luck, and courage.

Hitler iirc took REALLY long to even make a retalliation order.

I also think that invading russia was one of the dumbest things he could of done, iirc wasn't Soviet Union part of russia initially?

Strictly speaking, Russia was part of the SU.  However, we just generally equate the two.

[Hitmen]

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I also think that invading russia was one of the dumbest things he could of done, iirc wasn't Soviet Union part of russia initially?

It wasn't stupid to invade russia, he just did it at a stupid time. He knew how harsh the winters were, if he had waited for a season change his soldiers wouldn't have gotten their asses kicked by the weather just as much as russia. I think he definately could have done it.

[Super_X]

Hitler and Stalin had a .. not an aliance, but like an contract saying that they wouldn't fight each other 'til Adi went off the deep end and attacked the USSR.

And @ Warriors comment on D Day; it took so long for him to respond because he was asleep and no one wanted to wake the fuehrer with out like.. a 20 foot stick and an anti-stove coat.

[Warrior]

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I also think that invading russia was one of the dumbest things he could of done, iirc wasn't Soviet Union part of russia initially?

It wasn't stupid to invade russia, he just did it at a stupid time. He knew how harsh the winters were, if he had waited for a season change his soldiers wouldn't have gotten their asses kicked by the weather just as much as russia. I think he definately could have done it.

Well I think that opened up opportunity for him to be hit hard from both sides..but eventually he would of done it. I doubt hitler would have kept relations with Mussoulini for long either.

And yea I generally relate russia and some smaller countries around it to the SU it just would of been impractical to list them all.