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Cisco Sues Apple over use of "iPhone" name

Started by Newby, January 10, 2007, 07:37:44 PM

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iago

Quote from: Newby on January 11, 2007, 01:09:40 AM
Did they try? Or are you simply stating that? I'm curious; I never saw that in the news. :|
When the name of "Vista" was announced, it was brought up.  But they didn't try suing because they wouldn't have had a case. 

That's not even the best example, it's just the only example I can think of.

CrAz3D

Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 01:35:52 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 11, 2007, 01:32:57 AM
I was thinking prevail in a sense of them winning on legal grounds.

I have no doubt that apple will end up with the name, however.  It'll be settled for $500million or so

You think they'd pay $500 million to own the rights to a name?  I don't...

This was on Colorado's news, I guess.  I saw it on the commercial, but I didn't stick around to watch to story.  I'm sure it would have just been a reiteration anyway.
Maybe not that exact figure, but it will be a big number otherwise they won't be able to use it.

Newby

Quote from: iago on January 11, 2007, 08:33:41 AM
When the name of "Vista" was announced, it was brought up.  But they didn't try suing because they wouldn't have had a case. 

No, more like Microsoft lawyers would run them out of business before they even came close to winning a case. :P
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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

Furious

Haha...it will interesting to see which way this goes.
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Skywing

Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 01:35:52 AM
You think they'd pay $500 million to own the rights to a name?  I don't...

This was on Colorado's news, I guess.  I saw it on the commercial, but I didn't stick around to watch to story.  I'm sure it would have just been a reiteration anyway.
Actually, catchy, brand-recognized names are worth a non-trivial amount of money in terms of marketing dollars.

Sidoh

Quote from: Skywing on January 11, 2007, 11:14:44 AM
Actually, catchy, brand-recognized names are worth a non-trivial amount of money in terms of marketing dollars.

Yeah, I'd have guessed that, but they'd pay half a billion dollars just for rights to a name?

CrAz3D

Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Skywing on January 11, 2007, 11:14:44 AM
Actually, catchy, brand-recognized names are worth a non-trivial amount of money in terms of marketing dollars.

Yeah, I'd have guessed that, but they'd pay half a billion dollars just for rights to a name?
Any idea what the yearly sales of the iPod are?

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2006-01-10-macworld_x.htm
QuoteAlso Tuesday, the company reported record revenue for the quarter — $5.7 billion, compared with $3.5 billion for the same period in 2004.
QuoteAll told, Apple has sold 42 million iPods — 76% of them in 2005.
Maye not 500million, but it'll be FRIGGIN high, in the hundreds I'd think.



Sidoh

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 11, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Skywing on January 11, 2007, 11:14:44 AM
Actually, catchy, brand-recognized names are worth a non-trivial amount of money in terms of marketing dollars.

Yeah, I'd have guessed that, but they'd pay half a billion dollars just for rights to a name?
Any idea what the yearly sales of the iPod are?

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2006-01-10-macworld_x.htm
QuoteAlso Tuesday, the company reported record revenue for the quarter — $5.7 billion, compared with $3.5 billion for the same period in 2004.
QuoteAll told, Apple has sold 42 million iPods — 76% of them in 2005.
Maye not 500million, but it'll be FRIGGIN high, in the hundreds I'd think.

That's gross revenue, though.

Even if they are rich, I don't think they'd drop anywhere close to $500 million for rights on a name.  I'm no lawyer or economist, but I still don't think so... we'll see I guess, eh?

trust

I think they would simply because the name is critical to it doing well. However, I agree with iago that they do have a court case (as I've heard that clause before as well) and Apple probably won't have to pay such a  large amount.

Newby

Quote from: OG Trust on January 11, 2007, 06:17:15 PM
I think they would simply because the name is critical to it doing well. However, I agree with iago that they do have a court case (as I've heard that clause before as well) and Apple probably won't have to pay such a  large amount.

The thing is that Cisco has had rights to the name for six years. I didn't even hear about the iPod until 2001-ish.
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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

CrAz3D

Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 11, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Skywing on January 11, 2007, 11:14:44 AM
Actually, catchy, brand-recognized names are worth a non-trivial amount of money in terms of marketing dollars.

Yeah, I'd have guessed that, but they'd pay half a billion dollars just for rights to a name?
Any idea what the yearly sales of the iPod are?

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2006-01-10-macworld_x.htm
QuoteAlso Tuesday, the company reported record revenue for the quarter — $5.7 billion, compared with $3.5 billion for the same period in 2004.
QuoteAll told, Apple has sold 42 million iPods — 76% of them in 2005.
Maye not 500million, but it'll be FRIGGIN high, in the hundreds I'd think.

That's gross revenue, though.

Even if they are rich, I don't think they'd drop anywhere close to $500 million for rights on a name.  I'm no lawyer or economist, but I still don't think so... we'll see I guess, eh?
Up through 2005 Apple sold 42million units.  What is the average price of an iPod?...like $250 ish?  (when considering the expensive ones down to the cheap shuffles).  That's $10billion there.  So, maybe not $500million, but it'll be high.

Super_X

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 11, 2007, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 11, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on January 11, 2007, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Skywing on January 11, 2007, 11:14:44 AM
Actually, catchy, brand-recognized names are worth a non-trivial amount of money in terms of marketing dollars.

Yeah, I'd have guessed that, but they'd pay half a billion dollars just for rights to a name?
Any idea what the yearly sales of the iPod are?

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2006-01-10-macworld_x.htm
QuoteAlso Tuesday, the company reported record revenue for the quarter — $5.7 billion, compared with $3.5 billion for the same period in 2004.
QuoteAll told, Apple has sold 42 million iPods — 76% of them in 2005.
Maye not 500million, but it'll be FRIGGIN high, in the hundreds I'd think.

That's gross revenue, though.

Even if they are rich, I don't think they'd drop anywhere close to $500 million for rights on a name.  I'm no lawyer or economist, but I still don't think so... we'll see I guess, eh?
Up through 2005 Apple sold 42million units.  What is the average price of an iPod?...like $250 ish?  (when considering the expensive ones down to the cheap shuffles).  That's $10billion there.  So, maybe not $500million, but it'll be high.
Gross means before taxes, before paying employees, and suplies. I'm sure they make far less than that as profet.