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Started by Joe, April 13, 2006, 04:03:54 PM

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Sidoh

Quote from: iago on April 14, 2006, 03:36:27 PM
The chemical structure is properly defined as H(OH), it's a hydrogen atom attached to a hydroxide molecule.  Hydrogen Hydroxide.  At least, that's how I've always been taught it. 

I think either name is formally correct, though Dihydrogen Monoxide makes more sense to me, since both hydrogens are chemically (not ionically) bonded with the oxygen atom.

iago

Quote from: Sidoh on April 14, 2006, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: iago on April 14, 2006, 03:36:27 PM
The chemical structure is properly defined as H(OH), it's a hydrogen atom attached to a hydroxide molecule.  Hydrogen Hydroxide.  At least, that's how I've always been taught it. 

I think either name is formally correct, though Dihydrogen Monoxide makes more sense to me, since both hydrogens are chemically (not ionically) bonded with the oxygen atom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because it's been a long time since I've taken chemistry, but isn't that true for all hydroxide molecules?

rabbit

Why yes it is!

And "water" is indicative of the liquid state.  Ice is the solid, and steam the gaseous.  I'm not sure a plasma form exists (I do beleive the molecule rips apart before it can attain plasma?) so I don't know a name for it.  What it's called is DEFINATELY a name for its state, at least in the case of H2O, in all its specialness.

Sidoh

Quote from: rabbit on April 14, 2006, 05:45:26 PM
Why yes it is!

And "water" is indicative of the liquid state.  Ice is the solid, and steam the gaseous.  I'm not sure a plasma form exists (I do beleive the molecule rips apart before it can attain plasma?) so I don't know a name for it.  What it's called is DEFINATELY a name for its state, at least in the case of H2O, in all its specialness.

Do some poking around on a chemistry website.  Water is simply the common name for H2O.  It does not define the state of matter it exists in, though it is generally assumed that it is in liquid form, since it is by far the most abundant state water exists in on this planet.

iago

See "2.":

Quote1. A clear, colorless, odorless, and tasteless liquid, H2O, essential for most plant and animal life and the most widely used of all solvents. Freezing point 0°C (32°F); boiling point 100°C (212°F); specific gravity (4°C) 1.0000; weight per gallon (15°C) 8.338 pounds (3.782 kilograms).
   2.
         1. Any of various forms of water: waste water.
         2. Naturally occurring mineral water, as at a spa. Often used in the plural.
   3.
         1. A body of water such as a sea, lake, river, or stream.
         2. waters A particular stretch of sea or ocean, especially that of a state or country: escorted out of British waters.
   4.
         1. A supply of water: had to turn off the water while repairing the broken drain.
         2. A water supply system.
   5.
         1. Any of the fluids normally secreted from the body, such as urine, perspiration, tears, or saliva.
         2. A fluid present in a body part in abnormal quantities as a result of injury or disease: water on the knee.
         3. The fluid surrounding a fetus in the uterus; amniotic fluid.
   6. An aqueous solution of a substance, especially a gas: ammonia water.
   7. A wavy finish or sheen, as of a fabric or metal.
   8.
         1. The valuation of the assets of a business firm beyond their real value.
         2. Stock issued in excess of paid-in capital.
   9.
         1. The transparency and luster of a gem.
         2. A level of excellence.

zorm

Quote from: rabbit on April 14, 2006, 05:45:26 PM
Why yes it is!

And "water" is indicative of the liquid state.  Ice is the solid, and steam the gaseous.  I'm not sure a plasma form exists (I do beleive the molecule rips apart before it can attain plasma?) so I don't know a name for it.  What it's called is DEFINATELY a name for its state, at least in the case of H2O, in all its specialness.

Its also referred to as water vapor when a gas, so yeah you lose and frozen water works just fine.
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