Glider Ban Wave, the second!

[AntiVirus]

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it makes it's folder hidden.

Possessive pronouns don't have an apostrophe! Stop giving them one!!

HA!  It wasn't me this time!! :D

[Joe]

This just took a serious turn for the worst. :P

[Blaze]

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Sorry for the bump, but most of the detection is based on "characteristics" of a bot, not the actual presence of the software.
- Running in "robotic" patterns, stopping, swiveling, and walking again.
- Jumping in a rhythmic pattern.
- Walking in small circles, if your patrol sucks.
- Walking in circles at all, if people are bored enough to watch.
- If you're farming anything worth farming, other people will probably be farming as well. They may try to interact with you, or watch you.
- Also in more populated areas, following the same patrol as another botter, especially of the other faction. That's almost a dead giveaway, every time.

What you're suggesting, sandboxing it, is sort of what Glider does.
- Glider runs WoW as a non-administrator user.
- It automagically changes it's EXE's name as well as window title, so a simple window listing or task listing can't find it.
- IIRC, it sort of regenerates itself, moving functions and whatnot around in memory at random, so a memory hash can't be a reliable fingerprint.
- Although Warden doesn't scan the hard drive (yet?), it makes it's folder hidden.

Now it's time for some, "Joe, you're wrong!" one of this forums favourite games!

I will rewrite Joe's quote now removing all that is incorrect!

x86/64] link=topic=9610.msg123225#msg123225 date=1182925855]
Sorry for the bump, but most of the detection is based on "characteristics" of a bot, not the actual presence of the software.
- Running in "robotic" patterns, stopping, swiveling, and walking again.
- Jumping in a rhythmic pattern.
- Walking in small circles, if your patrol sucks.
- Walking in circles at all, if people are bored enough to watch.    <-- Obvious
- If you're farming anything worth farming, other people will probably be farming as well. They may try to interact with you, or watch you.    <-- Obvious
- Also in more populated areas, following the same patrol as another botter, especially of the other faction. That's almost a dead giveaway, every time.    <-- Obvious

What you're suggesting, sandboxing it, is sort of what Glider does.
- Glider runs WoW as a non-administrator user.
- It automagically changes it's EXE's name as well as window title, so a simple window listing or task listing can't find it.
- IIRC, it sort of regenerates itself, moving functions and whatnot around in memory at random, so a memory hash can't be a reliable fingerprint.
- Although Warden doesn't scan the hard drive (yet?), it makes its folder hidden.

Oh, and bump.  :P

[Furious]

x86/64] link=topic=9610.msg123225#msg123225 date=1182925855]
Sorry for the bump, but most of the detection is based on "characteristics" of a bot, not the actual presence of the software.
- Running in "robotic" patterns, stopping, swiveling, and walking again.
- Jumping in a rhythmic pattern.
- Walking in small circles, if your patrol sucks.
- Walking in circles at all, if people are bored enough to watch.
- If you're farming anything worth farming, other people will probably be farming as well. They may try to interact with you, or watch you.
- Also in more populated areas, following the same patrol as another botter, especially of the other faction. That's almost a dead giveaway, every time.

What you're suggesting, sandboxing it, is sort of what Glider does.
- Glider runs WoW as a non-administrator user.
- It automagically changes it's EXE's name as well as window title, so a simple window listing or task listing can't find it.
- IIRC, it sort of regenerates itself, moving functions and whatnot around in memory at random, so a memory hash can't be a reliable fingerprint.
- Although Warden doesn't scan the hard drive (yet?), it makes it's folder hidden.

Now it's time for some, "Joe, you're wrong!" one of this forums favourite games!

I will rewrite Joe's quote now removing all that is incorrect!

x86/64] link=topic=9610.msg123225#msg123225 date=1182925855]
Sorry for the bump, but most of the detection is based on "characteristics" of a bot, not the actual presence of the software.
- Running in "robotic" patterns, stopping, swiveling, and walking again.
- Jumping in a rhythmic pattern.
- Walking in small circles, if your patrol sucks.
- Walking in circles at all, if people are bored enough to watch.    <-- Obvious
- If you're farming anything worth farming, other people will probably be farming as well. They may try to interact with you, or watch you.    <-- Obvious
- Also in more populated areas, following the same patrol as another botter, especially of the other faction. That's almost a dead giveaway, every time.    <-- Obvious

What you're suggesting, sandboxing it, is sort of what Glider does.
- Glider runs WoW as a non-administrator user.
- It automagically changes it's EXE's name as well as window title, so a simple window listing or task listing can't find it.
- IIRC, it sort of regenerates itself, moving functions and whatnot around in memory at random, so a memory hash can't be a reliable fingerprint.
- Although Warden doesn't scan the hard drive (yet?), it makes its folder hidden.

Oh, and bump.  :P

Nothing was wrong with Joe's post.  Running in "robotic" patterns WILL give you away.  All someone has to do is report that they *think* you may be botting.  They may have tried talking to you a few times and gave up, which is what happened to my first account.

[Blaze]

Joe was talking about how Blizzard detects your botting, not how players do it and when he did talk about how players did it he used the most obvious descriptions which could be summed into two categories:  to be reported or being caught by Warden, the second of which he didn't mention.

Blizzard is constantly working on ways to detect a bot, and when they find one, they push a new version of Warden.

[Joe]

Quote where in my post I said that only Blizzard is doing that.

(Bump!)