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AP Computer Science
« on: August 12, 2007, 10:59:01 am »
Since my school blows donkey cock, I'm going to study + take the AP Computer Science test out of my own will.

After looking through some of the multiple choice questions in the study book I got, I won't have to learn much more. :)

The reason I'm posting here? What's the difference between the A/AB tests?
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 11:57:16 am »
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Computer Science AB includes all the topics of Computer Science A, as well as a more formal and a more in-depth study of algorithms, data structures, and data abstraction. For example, binary trees are studied in Computer Science AB but not in Computer Science A. The use of recursive data structures and dynamically allocated structures is fundamental to Computer Science AB.

Don't worry, the class is a joke. Aside from some familiar coding examples that will be similar to those on the AP test, you aren't missing much. I had the highest grade in my CS class, A's on everything, perfect of near perfect on all coding projects, etc. I got a 3, and didn't even finish the test. You're probably better off doing it yourself.

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 04:25:33 pm »
Don't worry, the class is a joke.
Agreed. I did awesome in the class, and got a 5 on the test. The hardest thing you're going to have to deal with is recursion. (which is easy after like 5 minutes) You're also going to need to be familiar with the new case study. There will be an open response question about it.

And uh, I dunno if you've ever used java, so you might want to at least familiarize yourself with it.

And take the AB test. You could pass the A in your sleep. According to the college board site the things you don't need to know for A are: two dimensional arrays, linked lists, stacks, queues, trees, heaps, priority queues, sets, maps, iterators, Big O notation, and throwing runtime exceptions. I can't imagine you having trouble with any of that :P
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 04:52:39 pm »
The AB is a joke.  It was so freakin easy.  I finished it up early and took a nap :P

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 08:49:14 pm »
The AB is a joke.  It was so freakin easy.  I finished it up early and took a nap :P
:D I got worried when I finished way before the one super smart kid taking it (who the fuck gets a 4.6 GPA on a 4.5 scale?! being in a room with him made me feel dumb) But I think he was just taking it because it was an AP class, not because it was something he was actually interested in...
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 09:24:31 pm »
But I think he was just taking it because it was an AP class, not because it was something he was actually interested in...

I know shitstabbers like that. Well, that I can live with. It's the fucks who grub over their grades and strive for anything that'll make it easier for them to get an A. Can't handle tests? Your 4.5 GPA isn't going to be anywhere near that close in college where homework doesn't account for 50% of your freaking grade. :|
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 09:35:10 pm »
But I think he was just taking it because it was an AP class, not because it was something he was actually interested in...

I know shitstabbers like that. Well, that I can live with. It's the fucks who grub over their grades and strive for anything that'll make it easier for them to get an A. Can't handle tests? Your 4.5 GPA isn't going to be anywhere near that close in college where homework doesn't account for 50% of your freaking grade. :|
Hey, dont diss us shitstabbers who do anything for the easy As (such as stab shit, or threaten to stab our shitty teachers). Its the only way to get into med school! But yea anyone who can't handle tests is pretty much fucked in college. I took a class over the summer where our final exam was half our grade. Everyone sucked it up too, we had one test where the average was 65%.
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2007, 10:24:24 pm »
I know shitstabbers like that. Well, that I can live with. It's the fucks who grub over their grades and strive for anything that'll make it easier for them to get an A. Can't handle tests? Your 4.5 GPA isn't going to be anywhere near that close in college where homework doesn't account for 50% of your freaking grade. :|
lol. He's not like that, he's just really really really smart. He came in second place in some science fair thing at MIT or something like that? I don't remember, it was in the school announcements some time last year :|
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2007, 11:43:46 pm »
Hey, dont diss us shitstabbers who do anything for the easy As (such as stab shit, or threaten to stab our shitty teachers). Its the only way to get into med school! But yea anyone who can't handle tests is pretty much fucked in college. I took a class over the summer where our final exam was half our grade. Everyone sucked it up too, we had one test where the average was 65%.

Hah! I'm talking mainly at kids that will take homework OVER tests, because it's easier to get full credit on homework. I was in an AP US History class FULL of them. Our teacher offered to drop a huge project if we listened to lectures on random historical subjects (i.e. how the U.S. flag came about, etc.) and the ENTIRE FUCKING CLASS (save me and another kid) voted for the huge project instead of lectures.

I guarantee you none of them even remembers a handful of information they learned from that project. :|
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2007, 12:26:38 pm »
But I think he was just taking it because it was an AP class, not because it was something he was actually interested in...

I know shitstabbers like that. Well, that I can live with. It's the fucks who grub over their grades and strive for anything that'll make it easier for them to get an A. Can't handle tests? Your 4.5 GPA isn't going to be anywhere near that close in college where homework doesn't account for 50% of your freaking grade. :|
Hey, dont diss us shitstabbers who do anything for the easy As (such as stab shit, or threaten to stab our shitty teachers). Its the only way to get into med school! But yea anyone who can't handle tests is pretty much fucked in college. I took a class over the summer where our final exam was half our grade. Everyone sucked it up too, we had one test where the average was 65%.

Your parents decided medicine would be a good career for you? I'm so sorry.

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2007, 12:39:27 pm »
Hey, dont diss us shitstabbers who do anything for the easy As (such as stab shit, or threaten to stab our shitty teachers). Its the only way to get into med school! But yea anyone who can't handle tests is pretty much fucked in college. I took a class over the summer where our final exam was half our grade. Everyone sucked it up too, we had one test where the average was 65%.

Your parents decided medicine would be a good career for you? I'm so sorry.
Did I miss something?

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2007, 01:02:36 pm »
Hey, dont diss us shitstabbers who do anything for the easy As (such as stab shit, or threaten to stab our shitty teachers). Its the only way to get into med school! But yea anyone who can't handle tests is pretty much fucked in college. I took a class over the summer where our final exam was half our grade. Everyone sucked it up too, we had one test where the average was 65%.

Your parents decided medicine would be a good career for you? I'm so sorry.
Did I miss something?

Obviously ^^

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 01:36:49 am »
But I think he was just taking it because it was an AP class, not because it was something he was actually interested in...

I know shitstabbers like that. Well, that I can live with. It's the fucks who grub over their grades and strive for anything that'll make it easier for them to get an A. Can't handle tests? Your 4.5 GPA isn't going to be anywhere near that close in college where homework doesn't account for 50% of your freaking grade. :|
That's what boggles my mind about people complaining about standardized tests and NCLB.  It seems that for the majority of professional jobs you have to pass standardized tests otherwise you're out on your keester.

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2007, 02:04:01 am »
That's what boggles my mind about people complaining about standardized tests and NCLB.  It seems that for the majority of professional jobs you have to pass standardized tests otherwise you're out on your keester.
There was one standardized test for NCLB I had to take, and it was way easy. The rest of the crap I had to do involved mundane and tedious projects, which kept us on a topic we had already been tested on for another week or two.
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2007, 08:48:34 pm »
But I think he was just taking it because it was an AP class, not because it was something he was actually interested in...

I know shitstabbers like that. Well, that I can live with. It's the fucks who grub over their grades and strive for anything that'll make it easier for them to get an A. Can't handle tests? Your 4.5 GPA isn't going to be anywhere near that close in college where homework doesn't account for 50% of your freaking grade. :|
Hey, dont diss us shitstabbers who do anything for the easy As (such as stab shit, or threaten to stab our shitty teachers). Its the only way to get into med school! But yea anyone who can't handle tests is pretty much fucked in college. I took a class over the summer where our final exam was half our grade. Everyone sucked it up too, we had one test where the average was 65%.

Your parents decided medicine would be a good career for you? I'm so sorry.
I choose medicine on my own. Math would be interesting, but pretty much all you could do is become a professor which would suck as a job. And I've tried sitting around doing computer science at my computer and it isnt very exciting.
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2007, 02:33:06 am »
Math would be interesting, but pretty much all you could do is become a professor which would suck as a job.

Why?  Having tenure so you can say or do pretty much anything you want, work as much or as little as you want, work on whatever you find interesting, and get paid $150,000-$300,000+ to do it, oh and get flown around the world about 5-6 times a year to go talk about how great you are for doing whatever you please, as well as having the opportunity to get famous and internationally respected doing something that is intellectually stimulating, and to leave an indelible mark on a profound subject, wait.. I guess you have a point.  That all sounds like it sucks to me.

And if you don't want to be a professor, you could:
A) Do mathematical biology (modeling disease spread, etc)
B) Do financial mathematics (most such jobs calling for a PhD in pure math start with salaries of ~$300000 US/year)
C) Do medical physics (designing MRI machines, etc)
D) Work for the military
E) Work for NASA
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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2007, 12:07:04 pm »
F) Invent RSA and never have to work again.

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 09:49:40 am »
Math would be interesting, but pretty much all you could do is become a professor which would suck as a job.

Why?  Having tenure so you can say or do pretty much anything you want, work as much or as little as you want, work on whatever you find interesting, and get paid $150,000-$300,000+ to do it, oh and get flown around the world about 5-6 times a year to go talk about how great you are for doing whatever you please, as well as having the opportunity to get famous and internationally respected doing something that is intellectually stimulating, and to leave an indelible mark on a profound subject, wait.. I guess you have a point.  That all sounds like it sucks to me.

Despite the benefits, I would hate to be a professor. I mean, you have to teach and research, both of which I'd hate doing for any length of time. :)

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2007, 02:19:55 pm »
Well, once you have tenure you don't really have to do anything.  And I find it hard to dislike research when it becomes "research on whatever you want".   In most jobs where you have to think, you're encouraged or have to do some sort of research.  It's the same with being a tenured professor, except you don't have to do the research, and you are more free to choose what kind of research you want to do, and you are more likely to be recognized for doing it, and you are more likely to actually make a difference in an important subject.   

The teaching requirements are usually minimal.  A lot of the work is done by teaching assistants, and the non-grading work can be a lot of fun if you care about the subject.  Showing people things you find interesting, teaching them about them, and thereafter being responsible for those who further advance our knowledge, or just make some sort positive contribution, can be quite rewarding.  I don't really see the drawback.

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Re: AP Computer Science
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 03:57:51 pm »
B) Do financial mathematics (most such jobs calling for a PhD in pure math start with salaries of ~$300000 US/year)

I was told by a guy who does that to major with a PHD in physics(?) as apparently that kind of mindset is what they look for.
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 05:21:06 pm »
B) Do financial mathematics (most such jobs calling for a PhD in pure math start with salaries of ~$300000 US/year)

I was told by a guy who does that to major with a PHD in physics(?) as apparently that kind of mindset is what they look for.

For the financial stuff, a PhD in math is probably a safer ticket to an high-paying job.   Not that it would really make an huge difference in your abilities, but they seem to more often be looking for math degrees.  Though it's possible to do a highly mathematical physics undergrad, and then do math in grad school.