Author Topic: So ubuntu is on (Read 17861 times)

CrAz3D · « **on:** March 29, 2008, 05:53:55 pm »

The panels won't expand to fit the full screen, odd. Thoughts off hand? I'm going to play with it a bit more once I (maybe) get this environment installed

Sidoh · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2008, 05:55:16 pm »

Right click on the panel, go to properties and make sure the "Expand" box is checked.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:03:54 pm »

It is. I figure I'll attempt to find the correct drivers for my Gateway instead of using the generic settings

Sidoh · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:05:47 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 29, 2008, 06:03:54 pm

It is. I figure I'll attempt to find the correct drivers for my Gateway instead of using the generic settings

I'd be really surprised if it was a driver issue. There's probably just something wrong with gnome's settings.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:15:39 pm »

Yeah, and seein as I cant install the driver I downloaded

CrAz3D · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:37:02 pm »

Oh so frustrated.

Cant find the roblem with the resolution, cant seem to get compiz-fusion to actually work, sigh (everytime I click custom under the compiz appearance preferences I get "Desktop effects could not e enabled)

typing compiz in the terminal shows "blacklisted pciid", I assume my graphics (integrated intel shit on my laptop) are blacklisted?
Google suggests: "XV does not play with XAA under compiz, only with EXA"

Sidoh · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:49:41 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 29, 2008, 06:15:39 pm

Yeah, and seein as I cant install the driver I downloaded

What video card is it?

I had trouble getting the resolution properly set on one of my laptops with Ubuntu as well. I think I had to manually change some stuff in xorg.conf.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:54:44 pm »

I googled stuff that pointed me to xorg.conf, I didnt find anything similar (it was stuff about a TV setting).

And now my awesome Windows disk wont boot so I can go back to Vista. Sigh. Maybe I'll just shoot it.

Off to check out this xorg shit again

Sidoh · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2008, 07:10:55 pm »

xorg.conf is the settings file for X, which is the window system you're using. There are all kinds of settings in xorg.conf, but among them are resolution, which display drivers to use, etc. It's located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I believe each user can have their own xorg.conf in their home directory, but since ubuntu uses gdm, I'm not sure it's loaded. I'd just edit the one in /etc/X11, but make sure you back the working one up.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2008, 08:20:35 pm »

After updating ubuntu (204 files) it won't load an image anymore, yay

. Its all command prompt. Time to reinstall

rabbit · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2008, 08:24:17 pm »

No....image? Take care with words in Linux! Image often means the kernel image. If you mean you can't get X running, restore your backed-up (back-upped?) copy of the xorg.conf file.

Sidoh · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2008, 08:27:02 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 29, 2008, 08:20:35 pm

After updating ubuntu (204 files) it won't load an image anymore, yay . Its all command prompt. Time to reinstall

Yeah, what rabbit said is very true. The proper phrase you're looking for is "gdm didn't start". Reinstalling is probably the best option in this case since it's probably less painful than troubleshooting, but if you had stuff on there, checking log files is probably what you'd want to do.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2008, 08:51:55 pm »

I restarted. Fuck it.

I know what I did, it was xorg.conf.

Sidoh · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2008, 08:56:54 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 29, 2008, 08:51:55 pm

I know what I did, it was xorg.conf.

Whenever you change something major in a conf file, it's a good idea to make a backup of the original in case you mess anything up.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:03:56 pm »

I knew what I changed ... just wouldn know how to get back to the file to re(?) change it.

Windows is what works for my not-so-computery-mind ... I'll stick to that

Sidoh · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:08:32 pm »

You should still get a 'login prompt' if gdm doesn't start. Login, and do $ sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:10:12 pm »

oh well.

After a reinstall of it I still couldn't work things terribly easy .. back top vista I go (hopefully vista holds up this time)

iago · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:20:39 pm »

Heh, I killed/reloaded Slackware probably 5 - 10 times in the first 2 months I was using it. One of the best ways to learn, in my opinion, is to break/re-install it. Each time you do it, you get better.

Sidoh · « **Reply #18 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:24:24 pm »

Quote from: iago on March 29, 2008, 10:20:39 pm

Heh, I killed/reloaded Slackware probably 5 - 10 times in the first 2 months I was using it. One of the best ways to learn, in my opinion, is to break/re-install it. Each time you do it, you get better.

Haha, totally. I'm pretty sure I broke it a bunch of times too.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:25:49 pm »

Maybe I'll try Fedora, I had better luck with that in the past (except my computer itself kept getting fried before I really got used to it)

iago · « **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:27:15 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 29, 2008, 10:25:49 pm

Maybe I'll try Fedora, I had better luck with that in the past (except my computer itself kept getting fried before I really got used to it)

Bender: Helmut Spargle has a message for you. He says (hoarse) "Ooh, I'm dead!"
Elzar: Spargle, huh? What he do, bland himself to death?
Bender: No. He was eating some food I made and by a crazy coincidence his stomach exploded. Now I'm here to avenge him.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:31:49 pm »

....................................................

iago · « **Reply #22 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:38:28 pm »

You said that your computer just happened to keep getting fried when you used Red Hat.

Bender said that the guy's stomach just happened to explode while he was eating the food.

Coincidences?

CrAz3D · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2008, 10:43:01 pm »

Maybe I should watch more Futurama to understand that?

iago · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2008, 11:05:38 pm »

No, it should be evident from the quote. In fact, just from this line (I gave the other two for a little context):

Bender: No. He was eating some food I made and by a crazy coincidence his stomach exploded.

It's making fun of the fact that your computer "kept getting fried" when you installed Red Hat. What a "crazy coincidence"!

CrAz3D · « **Reply #25 on:** March 29, 2008, 11:07:55 pm »

I see the ... comparison ... just not thinkin its so funny. Maybe its cause I'm frustrated, heh.

GO UNC! (yeah, off topic, I know)

Fedora 8 is almost done installing on my Vista/Fedora combo now

CrAz3D · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2008, 11:54:38 pm »

damn it all to hell. fedora did the same weird shit as ubuntu re: resolution. BUT it had no wireless support. VISTAS FTW

Joe · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2008, 12:55:33 am »

dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server

rabbit · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2008, 09:02:54 am »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 29, 2008, 11:54:38 pm

damn it all to hell. fedora did the same weird shit as ubuntu re: resolution. BUT it had no wireless support. VISTAS FTW

That's because Ubuntu comes with all kinds of extra crap. What you should do is download ndiswrapper and the Windows drivers you need and burn them to a CD, and then you can install those on Fedora and all should be well with the world.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:46:14 am »

Now that I finally have Windows & ubuntu on, I can pray and hope for the resolution solution to appear

rabbit · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:53:12 am »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 30, 2008, 11:46:14 am

resolution solution

/me chuckles

Solving problems you have (and you'll have a LOT since you're still new to Linux) will be a lot easier if you setup a shared partition. NTFS works fine now (if you use ntfs-3g driver, not the default ntfs one), especially with Vista. FAT32 will work fine too, as long as you don't try to store large files.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #31 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:58:24 am »

Yeah, I need to go back and create one $:-\$ .

Solution for RESOLUTION ISSUE: (hopefully I can find that via a search here, if I need it again)
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3473521&postcount=3

Quote

Modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that a new monitor is added for
the tv-out, marked as disabled. Specify on the device section
the name of the dummy tv-out.

add:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "TVOutput"
Option "Disable" "true"
EndSection

find Section "Device" and add:

Option "monitor-TV" "TVOutput"

Now to fix the sound.

p.s. I love how these threads become a lovely log of my progress.

Sidoh · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2008, 12:13:23 pm »

Quote from: rabbit on March 30, 2008, 09:02:54 am

That's because Ubuntu comes with all kinds of extra crap. What you should do is download ndiswrapper and the Windows drivers you need and burn them to a CD, and then you can install those on Fedora and all should be well with the world.

The 'bulk' isn't really as negative as you're making it seem. It sure does come with things you'll probably never use, but it works out of the box more often than any distro of Linux I've ever used.

For the record, I've used Fedora 8 on my machine as well. It doesn't run any faster.

I don't think I'd like to use Ubuntu as a server OS, but it kicks ass for a desktop OS. It's extremely well managed and I've been impressed time after time with how well it works with my hardware.

Crazed, as for the sound, I think the best way to find a solution for it is to find the name of your hardware, type it into Google and hack "Ubuntu" on the end. You should get plenty of helpful results.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2008, 12:19:28 pm »

Yup, installing an alsa driver now. Hope that works.

Edit: It works, sorta

Code: [Select]

1) sudo aptitude install build-essential
2) mkdir alsa
3) cd alsa
4) sudo wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.15.tar.bz2
5) tar xvjf alsa-driver-1.0.15.tar.bz2
6) cd alsa-driver-1.0.15
7) sudo ./configure
sudo make
9) sudo make install
10) sudo reboot now
11) unmute all channels in mixer and sound work

Get the most recent driver from the alsa page, the current driver is 1.0.16.
Unfortunately, this doesn't allow the speakers to work as they normally would, they're WAY too quiet

.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2008, 12:44:58 pm »

So ... anyone wanna explain a "blacklisted driver"?

(Compiz says my driver is blacklisted, am I SOL?)

iago · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2008, 12:54:19 pm »

Generally, a blacklisted driver is one that's listed in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (or something similar). But from the context, I'm guessing it's something else?

CrAz3D · « **Reply #36 on:** March 30, 2008, 12:55:31 pm »

I'll post the exact print from the terminal once what I'm doing now is done.

Sidoh · « **Reply #37 on:** March 30, 2008, 01:06:18 pm »

Hm, I thought Ubuntu came with Alsa. I can run alsamixer on my machine and I definitely don't remember installing it.

rabbit · « **Reply #38 on:** March 30, 2008, 01:08:09 pm »

CrAz3D, the only thing you probably needed to do was
modprobe alsa

CrAz3D · « **Reply #39 on:** March 30, 2008, 01:18:48 pm »

Ooops?

Sidoh, how would I access alsamixer?
edit:
Something happened and alsa was no longer installed. Found it in the package area, installing now. hmm

Compiz works now

.

Typed SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz in the term and it works

. Hope it stays working

Sidoh · « **Reply #40 on:** March 30, 2008, 01:36:21 pm »

$ alsamixer

rabbit · « **Reply #41 on:** March 30, 2008, 01:38:42 pm »

# is better!

CrAz3D · « **Reply #42 on:** March 30, 2008, 01:45:30 pm »

So I have all of the alsa related packages installed (via package manager) yet it doesn't run (I assume as I have no sound) when I restart. Start up script?

Modprobe alsa is not working, either. "module not found"

CrAz3D · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2008, 02:38:32 pm »

Well, looks like this is about as good as I'm going to get it for now. The sound works (poorly) and compiz only runs when I enter compiz --replace in terminal or the run dialog

.

Whatever I guess.

Sidoh · « **Reply #44 on:** March 30, 2008, 02:45:44 pm »

Have you tried enabling compiz through the "Appearance" settings?

Settings => Preferences => Appearance => Visual Effects

I think anything above "None" makes compiz the default WM.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #45 on:** March 30, 2008, 02:46:59 pm »

I cant enable custom, hardware is blacklisted.

Maybe I'll install on my dektop once i jack my sis' hdd and ram later today.

Sidoh · « **Reply #46 on:** March 30, 2008, 02:59:27 pm »

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 30, 2008, 02:46:59 pm

I cant enable custom, hardware is blacklisted.

Maybe I'll install on my dektop once i jack my sis' hdd and ram later today.

You don't need custom. Can you enable either of the other two?

CrAz3D · « **Reply #47 on:** March 30, 2008, 03:05:32 pm »

I can enable nothing. "Desktop effects could not be enabled"

Newby · « **Reply #48 on:** March 30, 2008, 04:18:58 pm »

Funny story: I clicked "Extra" once, and my box rebooted instantly.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #49 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:14:58 pm »

what can I use to chat on linux?

Newby · « **Reply #50 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:22:57 pm »

Pidgin.

Sidoh · « **Reply #51 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:23:55 pm »

Give all your friends accounts, install sshd and use write!

c0Ld · « **Reply #52 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:55:48 pm »

I've grown to hate Pidgin lately. It seems that after a few days of uptime it slows down to the point of being unusable, I'm guessing it has one hell of a memory leak and/or just hates me.

iago · « **Reply #53 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:59:26 pm »

Probably hates you. I keep it up for weeks at a time, works fine.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #54 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:46:35 am »

well, i'm using pidgin, should be stable enough for me ... laptop doesnt stay on long.

any equivalent to MS' Hibernate on linux?

Sidoh · « **Reply #55 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:52:40 am »

Quote from: c0Ld on March 30, 2008, 11:55:48 pm

I've grown to hate Pidgin lately. It seems that after a few days of uptime it slows down to the point of being unusable, I'm guessing it has one hell of a memory leak and/or just hates me.

heh, I'm the same as iago. Mine's been running for a couple of weeks with no problems.

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 31, 2008, 12:46:35 am

any equivalent to MS' Hibernate on linux?

Yep, it's even called that. When you click on the power button, it should be an option.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #56 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:54:27 am »

Yeah I just saw that

hahaha

Newby · « **Reply #57 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:02:49 am »

People use hibernate?

Sidoh · « **Reply #58 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:06:40 am »

Quote from: Newby on March 31, 2008, 01:02:49 am

People use hibernate?

I do on my laptop. Conserving battery is nice.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:09:23 am »

Quote from: Newby on March 31, 2008, 01:02:49 am

People use hibernate?

I almost never turn things off ... $:-\$

Quik · « **Reply #60 on:** March 31, 2008, 02:58:29 am »

Quote from: Newby on March 31, 2008, 01:02:49 am

People use hibernate?

Why not? It's the same thing as turning your computer off, except it starts up faster. Only problem I've ever had with it is for some reason randomly the computer will turn itself back on. That was on my old computer, though. Do you have a reason why you don't use it?

iago · « **Reply #61 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:53:26 am »

I don't use hibernate because my Laptop's ACPI thingy is flaky, which makes it really hard to get it going again.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #62 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:00:38 pm »

"failed to hibernate" Guess I need to go read the help file like it suggested, oh well, I'll do that sometime tomorrow. Intense test tomorrow, NOT looking forward to it.

CrAz3D · « **Reply #63 on:** April 03, 2008, 09:55:17 pm »

Anyone run into a screen brightness issue? I can't adjust the brightness or find much of a solution.

rabbit · « **Reply #64 on:** April 03, 2008, 10:04:00 pm »

Add the brightness applet to the panel? Turn down your monitor's brightness

CrAz3D · « **Reply #65 on:** April 03, 2008, 11:21:39 pm »

Not there. Maybe has something to do with blacklisted video hardware

. Lame

rabbit · « **Reply #66 on:** April 04, 2008, 08:05:47 am »

Ignore it and install the drivers anyway. That's what I did on my laptop.

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Author Topic: So ubuntu is on (Read 17861 times)