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ROFL!
« on: May 08, 2005, 01:38:03 pm »
Perhaps Linux > Windows!

Description of board: Anything you find which has to do with Linux security issues.

...and this entire board is empty...lol

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2005, 01:44:15 pm »
Nobody here wants to admit Linux has security issues. Reguardless of how big they are.
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2005, 02:10:22 pm »
Since this board has been around, I haven't seen any Linux issues worth posting about

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 02:26:58 pm »
I've seen some, but none having to do with distros that I know people here run.
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[20:21:13] xar: i was just thinking about the time iago came over here and we made this huge bomb and light up the sky for 6 min
[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2005, 03:23:27 pm »
Most vulnerabilities apply to most distros, the only difference is the default software versions.  But anybody with that software is vulnerable.

The only things I've seen lately are DoS attacks on Linux, but that's no fun.

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 10:06:03 pm »
Joe:
Ubuntu Warty Warthog
Slackware 10.0

iago:
Slackware 10.1
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 10:26:59 pm »
The thing is, there are a lot of vulnerabilities in software that runs on Linux, lots of them, but not so much with Linux itself.  Most vulnerabilities are in web-based applications. 

The problem with Windows is that everything is integrated.  A problem with one piece of software is a problem with the entire system.

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2005, 03:22:07 pm »
modular != microkernel

afaik Linux still holds up it's monolithic design and Windows apps can be removed =o
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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2005, 05:13:45 pm »
Explain, please?  99% of the stuff in the Linux kernel can be modules, and you can have a kernel that fits on a floppy.  It's not microkernel, of course, but it shows that it's customizable.  If you don't like Windows' kernel, too bad.

Most stuff on Linux is driven by applications that interface with the Kernel through the kernel libraries.  X-Windows, for instance, is a program, not part of the kernel.  Windows, on the other hand, stronly integrated the GUI, the web browser, and a lot of other software into the kernel, which seems like a very bad idea. 

One thing I thought was funny was when an invalid animated cursor caused a bluescreen (kernel crash).  There is NO way a cursor should be able to crash the kernel.

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 05:34:28 pm »
iirc IE can be removed if not completely disabled. The windows GUI is indeed built into the kernel but that is something most monolithic kernels suffer. Drivers can crash the kernel. Fortunately, Linux runs most processes in user space so you can simply resume work after an exception has been handled.
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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 06:49:55 pm »
Check out the article I posted on the Windows Security forum about Microsoft's monopoly.  It talks about the problems with IE being integrated into everything.  It's quite a good article.

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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2005, 10:16:04 pm »
It cannot be completely disabled; or else you would not recieve Window's updates.
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[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2005, 10:50:11 pm »
Who wants those? I download all I need at setup.
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Re: ROFL!
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2005, 10:20:41 pm »
Then what do you do about the daily Windows patches that are released?

Just admit it, Linux was built with someone's head not in thier ass or on a 8 hr deadline for that matter.